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velocicarpo

« Reply #25 on: May 24, 2011, 07:58 »
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Oh, There isn't problem. It's possible that it isn't a good work, I have only spent a lot of time for this...but when I submitted this one I submitted 4 other images all rejected for "poor execution" and it's difficult belive that all wasn't good...Anyway, everything is possible. This one was accepted by fotolia, accepted and sold by Shutterstock butr I know that there isn't an objective standard for every stock...only lucky and personal opinions. Of course I stay and I prefer where my work is appreciated  ;)
Now I'm not so encouraged to upload on DS.

p.s. I haven't problems with rejections but with the reasons...tell me bad light, bad colors ecc. but don't tell poor execution  ; ???

Well, that the process of learning. Don`t get discouraged. Sometimes the same happens to me: spending hours on a piece and I think it?s great and in the end I realize that I just got lost lol. And another time its the opposite :-)
I completely understand that you feel bad with the "poor execution...." the rejection reasons on every agency can feel very insulting. Don`t take it personal. Don`t take rejection reasons too serious. Try to learn and get better. Good luck!


« Reply #26 on: May 24, 2011, 09:18 »
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when DT rejects me a picture I think to myself.. dont mind, they are not worth that time.. SS has it? sweet! :)

« Reply #27 on: May 24, 2011, 09:52 »
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Well, that the process of learning. Don`t get discouraged. Sometimes the same happens to me: spending hours on a piece and I think it?s great and in the end I realize that I just got lost lol. And another time its the opposite :-)
I completely understand that you feel bad with the "poor execution...." the rejection reasons on every agency can feel very insulting. Don`t take it personal. Don`t take rejection reasons too serious. Try to learn and get better. Good luck!

You have understood perfectly what I think and what I feel. I know that I'm too emotional but the day before these 4 (or 5, I don't remember now) rejections I had 5 o 6 approved images so I think that there's something strange. One day they accept everything and the day next nothing?
My friend had a similar problem, he resubmit all the rejected images and...they were accepted.
It is strange, isn't it?
Because in this way is really difficult understand what they are looking for and what they want. I'd like don't be discouraged but I'm...a little bit because I have understood, more or less, what the other stocks want...what is good for fotolia, for SS and for IS too...I think...but I'm not able to make a prediction about what interest to Ds.
May be...one day :DD
You're very nice velocicarpo, I like the people that say what they think ;))

« Reply #28 on: May 24, 2011, 10:25 »
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I will repeat myself they want newbies! they want a picture of everything from every single contributor no matter its quality.. so Dreamstime is an agency always looking for new contributors and helping them to join :)

« Reply #29 on: May 24, 2011, 10:52 »
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I will repeat myself they want newbies! they want a picture of everything from every single contributor no matter its quality.. so Dreamstime is an agency always looking for new contributors and helping them to join :)

This doesn't make sense.  It's not in anyone's interest to let in a lot of garbage.  If a newbie is submitting low quality stuff, Dreamstime should and will reject it.

And I don't take comfort in saying "Oh well, Dreamstime isn't worth the time" if they reject my submissions.  They make me quite a bit of money.  So it is incredibly frustrating when they reject something of mine... I'm getting hit with the "too many similar submissions" rejection a lot lately, and in most cases I think these are crazy rejections.

It's true that there seems to be  an inconsistency among reviewers... but reviewing is so subjective... it's human nature that we can't expect everyone to work with the same mind.

To me, the problem is the literal-mindedness of rejecting images as "similar."  Dreamstime is doing contributors, customers and itself a big disservice by clinging to a foolish definition of what makes a "similar" image.
« Last Edit: May 24, 2011, 10:57 by stockmarketer »

« Reply #30 on: May 24, 2011, 11:00 »
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I havent said the opposite.. of course Dreamstime are worth the time.. they are just not worth when we "waste" time thinking of rejections for "similar and not what we are looking for", that when I see crappy pictures getting in everyday and of course I am not going to show them here (and it is a rule of this group)
« Last Edit: May 24, 2011, 11:04 by luissantos84 »

« Reply #31 on: May 24, 2011, 12:09 »
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Well, some days they reject everything and same days they thake everything. I'm not happy. They rejected this work



For Poor execution. Poor execution!! Tell me you aren't interested in it or something like this but not "poor execution" when I used 22 images to do this work and 7 hours.
I'm angry, I'm thinking to go away from DS and Fotolia and stay only on Shutterstock (I love Shutterstock).
 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(


Elserlie, do you have this castle SS 72926116 anywhere without the background?  Is this an illustration or a real place?

« Reply #32 on: May 24, 2011, 12:32 »
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Elserlie, do you have this castle Shutterstock 72926116 anywhere without the background?  Is this an illustration or a real place?



Hi Pixart, I have this castle tree times on shutterstock (and twice, but I'm not sure, on Fotolia) with different backgrounds, it's an illustration, not a real place.
Why?

This is another version


and I have done a more simple version with only the castle, sky and an hill...
« Last Edit: May 24, 2011, 12:35 by Ellerslie »

« Reply #33 on: May 24, 2011, 13:28 »
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This is the one I lightboxed - the stonework is lovely.  I'm not sure if I could use it though flattened with all the environment layers.  I'm taking July and August for a personal/children's project - I thought I'd model the castle off the Neuschwanstein - but I am certain I couldn't create something as nice so maybe I should just license.  Just trying to survive shooting soccer leagues and graduations right now though.

 

« Reply #34 on: May 24, 2011, 13:37 »
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Oh My God Pix, I'm so honored and happy. It's mine  :D
In effect when I do my castles (I have done a lot of castles, they are one of my favourite subjects) I think to Neuschwanstein castle, a place that I love because it's  a dream and I'm a dreamer. I'm really happy you like it and excited.
Thanks a lot, you make me happy  :)

« Reply #35 on: May 24, 2011, 14:59 »
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My experience with Dreamstime is next - they are refusing my photos so now my acceptance percent is below 15. But as im learning all others sites are accepting my work and ratio is going forward. And all because Dreamstime is giving me hard time learning doing stock photo right.

All i can say thnks for this and my first sold photo!

« Reply #36 on: May 24, 2011, 15:21 »
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Oh My God Pix, I'm so honored and happy. It's mine  :D
In effect when I do my castles (I have done a lot of castles, they are one of my favourite subjects) I think to Neuschwanstein castle, a place that I love because it's  a dream and I'm a dreamer. I'm really happy you like it and excited.
Thanks a lot, you make me happy  :)

That's so sweet,  brightened my day too :)

« Reply #37 on: May 27, 2011, 13:18 »
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Hey Ellerslie, I see one of your castles in the frontpage lightbox (fairy tale theme perhaps) on SS.  Good job!  Hope it = big $ while it's there!

lagereek

« Reply #38 on: May 30, 2011, 11:35 »
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No, but to be truthful, I really dont think they know what they want. I just had a series of engineering files rejected, "too similar" uploaded on Thursday last week, in the last three days they have already been DLd, 19 times at other agencies but DT rejected them because of too similar.

there you go, win some lose some.

« Reply #39 on: May 30, 2011, 12:42 »
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Anecdotal Evidence . . . .  just had 8 out of 8 Editorial Photos (Anti Atomic Energy Rally in Germany) accepted.  Its been along time since that has happened.

« Reply #40 on: May 30, 2011, 13:19 »
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Anecdotal Evidence . . . .  just had 8 out of 8 Editorial Photos (Anti Atomic Energy Rally in Germany) accepted.  Its been along time since that has happened.

this is the kind of topic I need to step out because I would be talking all day regarding their review policy (what is going online/rejected)

« Reply #41 on: May 31, 2011, 11:40 »
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The reviewers are all individuals with varying levels of experience and opinions. One reviewer may like your work while another will not. I submit to 8 sites and if one or two of them reject the images, I just move on. It isn't worth the frustration - don't take it personally. I've also gotten a few "similars" rejections recently at DT but with the current decline of IS, DT is actually in second place for me on the micros. I wouldn't give up on them.

« Reply #42 on: May 31, 2011, 17:38 »
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Hey Ellerslie, I see one of your castles in the frontpage lightbox (fairy tale theme perhaps) on Shutterstock.  Good job!  Hope it = big $ while it's there!

Hi Pix, I read only now. Yes  ;D :) :), May was a great month on SS, I had an image selected for the home page and the castle in the "fairy tale" gallery....now the home page is changed and I'm trying to detoxify myself, it's not easy  :'( :'( :) :)
I was so honored and, yes, I sold a lot, a lot  ;)

« Reply #43 on: June 01, 2011, 05:09 »
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I will repeat myself they want newbies! they want a picture of everything from every single contributor no matter its quality.. so Dreamstime is an agency always looking for new contributors and helping them to join :)

This doesn't make sense.  It's not in anyone's interest to let in a lot of garbage.  If a newbie is submitting low quality stuff, Dreamstime should and will reject it.

And I don't take comfort in saying "Oh well, Dreamstime isn't worth the time" if they reject my submissions.  They make me quite a bit of money.  So it is incredibly frustrating when they reject something of mine... I'm getting hit with the "too many similar submissions" rejection a lot lately, and in most cases I think these are crazy rejections.

It's true that there seems to be  an inconsistency among reviewers... but reviewing is so subjective... it's human nature that we can't expect everyone to work with the same mind.

To me, the problem is the literal-mindedness of rejecting images as "similar."  Dreamstime is doing contributors, customers and itself a big disservice by clinging to a foolish definition of what makes a "similar" image.

I think we could be missing the boat here to some degree.  The agencies would much prefer to have the majority of sales made to untold thousands of ports which do not make payout often.  They also know that some images sell year in or out and that is not going to change for a time.  Those images are there until they are buried by an avalanche of new files and until then, they will continue to take up a percentage of sales.  Now if you are going to spread the love they would try to skew it in their own favor.

If they know that buyers are not so picky as we have been lead to believe they are, they would not be at all upset to accept more average images that will sell occasionally from many thousands of newbies who may hit on one or two good selling images for each port and therefore do not reach payout for months.

It could be why we are seeing increases in rejection rates for those submitters who's ports are consistently filled with HCV images and therefore easily hit payouts each month.  Maybe we should not be so quick to discount luissantos84's idea, it may very well pay off to some degree for micros to spread the love to newbies with less than stellar images.
« Last Edit: June 01, 2011, 07:54 by gbalex »

« Reply #44 on: June 01, 2011, 07:52 »
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Double post

lagereek

« Reply #45 on: June 03, 2011, 10:32 »
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Someone there is going through the "change of life"  better wait with uploading for a few months.

« Reply #46 on: June 03, 2011, 10:40 »
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Someone there is going through the "change of life"  better wait with uploading for a few months.

you got me curious.. regarding uploading the amount is changing every week I dont understand why it is going up and down, really weird stuff, it does look that is it pressure from top contributors.. or maybe they are getting less submissions..

« Reply #47 on: June 03, 2011, 11:25 »
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...I dont understand why it is going up and down, really weird stuff, it does look that is it pressure from top contributors.. or maybe they are getting less submissions..

I was under the impression that during peak times with lots of submissions they lower the limit.
Then naturally they would increase the limit if submission numbers are down.

Well summer's around the corner so maybe a few high rollers are already on vacation...  :P

Carl

  • Carl Stewart, CS Productions
« Reply #48 on: June 05, 2011, 16:03 »
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I am very sorry to say this, but I would have rejected this Image too. Bad colors, bad light, no depth, low detail and high detail style mixed so that the final Image makes no sense...

I'm gonna politely disagree.  I think there is certainly a market for images like this, and I find it appealing personally.  I'm not surprised that the DT inspector can be so shortsighted, neither am I surprised that the SS inspector wasn't.   :)

« Reply #49 on: June 07, 2011, 03:14 »
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Hi, I can tell you for sure that, yes, there's a market. SS was the first to understand it but now Dreamstime too. I have doubled my acceptance ratio there. The only one that isn't interesting in this kind of works-artworks (if I can...) is Is...they are so old and obsolete with illustrations (they look for eps8 vectors for example, dinosaurs between vectors) and really they aren't interested in fantasy-surreal illustrations. But I can survive  :D Even if SS was the only one to understand that this kind of illustration have a market I can survive because I sell a lot there  :)
Well, I love ss  :D, but really I think that there's a good reason if they're the most important microstock of the world, they are really open mind and they are able to understand what can sell.

Thank a lot for your opinion about my work  ;)


 

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