Author Topic: Is Dreamstime the only one selling RAW?! (Read 9081 times)

hose · « **on:** February 20, 2011, 17:29 »

someone knows?

luissantos84 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 20, 2011, 17:45 »

don´t know but I guess a buyer at iStock can request a RAW file but for a total difference price..

lisafx · « **Reply #2 on:** February 20, 2011, 19:22 »

As far as I know they are the only ones. They aren't selling my RAWs though. Personally I think it's crazy to give away our digital negatives for microstock prices...

Carl · « **Reply #3 on:** February 20, 2011, 19:49 »

I can't see myself allowing any raw photos to get out because I don't want anyone seeing a raw photo and mistaking it for the finished work that I produce.

hose · « **Reply #4 on:** February 21, 2011, 03:38 »

on one hand it's like this... but on the other - I think it's fair to give the designers all options - you don't know what they need... and how they will need it... so giving them the RAW you give them all options

about the price - when they buy with credits it's much higher, but with subscriptions is very low...

RT · « **Reply #5 on:** February 21, 2011, 05:53 »

Is Dreamstime the only one selling RAW?!

Yes probably because the other sites realise nobody in their right mind would want to sell their raw files.

gostwyck · « **Reply #6 on:** February 21, 2011, 07:05 »

Quote from: RT on February 21, 2011, 05:53

Is Dreamstime the only one selling RAW?!

Yes probably because the other sites realise nobody in their right mind would want to sell their raw files.

Of course the RAW image isn't actually the image that was originally inspected & approved either. It might be quite different to what the customer was expecting from the JPEG.

cathyslife · « **Reply #7 on:** February 21, 2011, 08:19 »

Quote from: lisafx on February 20, 2011, 19:22

As far as I know they are the only ones. They aren't selling my RAWs though. Personally I think it's crazy to give away our digital negatives for microstock prices...

Exactly. If someone were going to request RAW files, I would be negotiating a contract outside of micro.

traveler1116 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 21, 2011, 09:42 »

Quote from: lisafx on February 20, 2011, 19:22

As far as I know they are the only ones. They aren't selling my RAWs though. Personally I think it's crazy to give away our digital negatives for microstock prices...

yep +1 (at least they weren't when I used them), I did get a couple requests but always turned them down.

PeterChigmaroff · « **Reply #9 on:** February 21, 2011, 10:57 »

Quote from: hose on February 21, 2011, 03:38

but on the other - I think it's fair to give the designers all options - you don't know what they need... and how they will need it... so giving them the RAW you give them all options

It's not fair at all really. The designer is enjoying an unprecedented selection of images for a price point that can only be described as give away. Why would they need yet another perk?

hose · « **Reply #10 on:** February 21, 2011, 11:13 »

why do you think that RAW files are so precious? I don't get it...

It's the same if you sell JPEG or RAW for me...

but I have a lot of images on my web site which are originally made on slide films and they are really ART... and I don't upload them at stock sites... recently I even disable more than 20 files that I was upload years ago... I just decided these files worth much more

but all the others... are just stock... and wheather it's jpeg or raw... the same for me

WarrenPrice · « **Reply #11 on:** February 21, 2011, 11:17 »

I'm curious too about this idea that the RAW file is the only way to prove an image is yours.
Much of my microstock work is done in JPEG only. Am I vulnerable?

gostwyck · « **Reply #12 on:** February 21, 2011, 11:58 »

Quote from: WarrenPrice on February 21, 2011, 11:17

I'm curious too about this idea that the RAW file is the only way to prove an image is yours.
Much of my microstock work is done in JPEG only. Am I vulnerable?

I don't think so. I haven't shot RAW for 7 years. Easy enough to prove ownership from all the other shots from the same series, sequential file no's, etc (in the unlikely event that it becomes necessary).

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #13 on:** February 21, 2011, 12:39 »

I don't think there's much to worry about for proving an image is yours if you shoot JPEG, however if you are worried, I read a while back that someone shaved off 5 pixels around the edges before submitting so they could show that anyone nabbing their uploads to claim as their originals was a fraud - they wouldn't have the extra 5 pixel border.

And as far as selling RAW files, I'm in the wouldn't-even-consider-it camp. Even before DT started subscriptions, I didn't offer RAW files. I would consider selling high res 16 bit processed (layered) images for a higher price, but not the unprocessed file. It'd be like going out on a date with no makeup and in my gardening gear - no finish or polish

WarrenPrice · « **Reply #14 on:** February 21, 2011, 13:21 »

Quote from: jsnover on February 21, 2011, 12:39

I don't think there's much to worry about for proving an image is yours if you shoot JPEG, however if you are worried, I read a while back that someone shaved off 5 pixels around the edges before submitting so they could show that anyone nabbing their uploads to claim as their originals was a fraud - they wouldn't have the extra 5 pixel border.

And as far as selling RAW files, I'm in the wouldn't-even-consider-it camp. Even before Dreamstime started subscriptions, I didn't offer RAW files. I would consider selling high res 16 bit processed (layered) images for a higher price, but not the unprocessed file. It'd be like going out on a date with no makeup and in my gardening gear - no finish or polish

I wasn't concerned about copyright issues; just concerned that others seemed to think I should be. Is that confusing?

I do agree with your lack of makeup analogy.

PeterChigmaroff · « **Reply #15 on:** February 21, 2011, 13:34 »

Quote from: hose on February 21, 2011, 11:13

... the same for me

But not for me. Nothing to argue about really.

hose · « **Reply #16 on:** February 22, 2011, 08:49 »

sure we have choice - to upload or not

everyone decides for himself

hose · « **Reply #17 on:** February 23, 2011, 06:08 »

after the "make-up" you lose information that a designer could need

and anyway - the next morning after the date - everything is clear

hose · « **Reply #18 on:** March 12, 2011, 14:26 »

I was thinking these days...
many said that they wouldn't sell RAW for these prices
ok... so what is the normal price for RAW?
what do you think

louoates · « **Reply #19 on:** March 16, 2011, 15:06 »

For what it's worth I've gotten several requests for raw files via DT but there was no way to respond and no info on prices and no contact info from whomever requested the files.

I emailed DT each time and got no response.

hose · « **Reply #20 on:** March 24, 2011, 09:06 »

really?!

usually you could answer as a comment on a picture

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