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« on: March 29, 2006, 10:11 »
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For you experts, do you think it is worth it to sign up with Dreamstime?
I am currently on: Shutterstock, iStock, Fotolia and FeaturePics

what do you think?


« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2006, 10:35 »
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Dreamstime does much better than Fotolia for me, in fact it is doing slightly better than iStockPhoto.  I don't know how many photos you have but upload a 100 or so and see how it will work for you.  If you like it upload the rest.

Mark

« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2006, 11:09 »
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thank you

« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2006, 02:17 »
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I'd say yes...

I've got 80 pics there, and it's done $45 since January..  It's slower than istock and shutter stock for me, but definately worth the effort if you're already submitting to another site.

If you're only going to submit to one site, either Shutterstock or Istock would probably be the better bet.

Cheers, Me.

« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2006, 02:23 »
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Forgot to mention...  DT has the highest rejection ratio for me as well..

31% of my submissions to DT have been rejected, compared to 7% for both IS and SS.

Your mileage may vary obviously, as all of the sites seem to have different styles of customers, and their your style may fit their ideas bettern than mine. ;-).

Cheers, Me.

« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2006, 02:43 »
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It is currently my second earner after SS.

My acceptance ratio is also better with 71 photos accepted compared to 44 and 16 for SS and IS respectively (not all the photos have been submitted to IS yet but SS and DT is comparable)

« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2006, 03:34 »
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I would say definatly it is worth it.

It is also my second earner, with shutterstock higher and istock lower.

They have stiff rejections, but they allow a high amount of uploads, and have a nice site.  Earnings seem to be good there.

« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2006, 23:57 »
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It seems that Dreamstime has a more liberal acceptance policy now. Recently Dreamstime rejections have dropped almost to zero. Even a few months back my acceptance rate there was like 40%.

« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2006, 02:56 »
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yeah i have noticed that too.  Dreamstime would reject images that istock accepted and then some.  Now they are accepted quite liberally as you say.

« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2006, 11:49 »
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Yesterday I finally got my batch of 50 accepted at DT, now the total is 70, and this morning I already got 4 sales, earning me 3.5 better than FT with 2 weeks on line and 7 Downloads, but only 2.97.
So I like the $0.50 payout per download.

« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2006, 12:22 »
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DT is awesome, after approved for less than 12 hours for 70 images, I already have $5.5 in sales, more than doubled FT's sales for two weeks:)

« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2006, 16:10 »
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yeah i think dreamstime is going to be one of the top sites sooner or later.  They are growing slowly but surely and have good returns for the photographer.

I FINALLY have one image that is level '2' or whatever they call it. I now get $1.50 for web downloads and $3.00 for High Quality downloads from that file.  Very nice.

« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2006, 18:38 »
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I don't understand these levels. Doesn't it seem backwards? I mean the more it's downloaded I would think it would become cheaper not more expensive. I would think it would be more valuable as a novel image rather than an oft seen one.

« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2006, 20:45 »
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I don't understand these levels. Doesn't it seem backwards? I mean the more it's downloaded I would think it would become cheaper not more expensive. I would think it would be more valuable as a novel image rather than an oft seen one.

I think DT beleives that the  number of downloads for an image directly reflects its popularity. In the business sense, the more popular your image is, the higher the potential value it has. I think DT designed it that way so that the value of our images do not deteriorate by getting cheaper everytime they're downloaded but instead increases to signify that the're popular and thus have a high demand.

« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2006, 20:57 »
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DT is my #3 site based on revenue, behind SS & IS. Rejection rates are slightly less than IS.

I'm still working on my portfolio (about 140 images online at DT), but from the looks of how things are going for me, DT seems very promising. An good spread of image sales in terms of content and age.

My rest are 123RF, Fotolia & FP, which are all a distant 4,5,6.

-ptlee-

« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2006, 00:20 »
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yeah dreamstime is number 3 for me too.

and Boylet said it right, Dreamstime makes the image more expensive because an image which is more popular has the potential to earn more.  it also gives a chance for new uploads to get some downloads as the old images become more expensive.  I think it is a good system.

Quevaal

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« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2006, 20:45 »
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Hmm, maybe I'll have a go. I could easily get a lot accepted there, seing as my combined IS/SS/StockXpert pics totals around 1100.
Personally, I'm quite happy with iStock, and less happy with SS. But if Dreamstime is in the neighbourhood of SS, then that will still mean the occasional paycheck.

Oh, Leaf, I signed up through your account, so that means $$$s for you. ;)
« Last Edit: August 12, 2006, 21:37 by Quevaal »

« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2006, 13:11 »
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thanks :)

« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2006, 20:14 »
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yeah i think dreamstime is going to be one of the top sites sooner or later. They are growing slowly but surely and have good returns for the photographer.

I FINALLY have one image that is level '2' or whatever they call it. I now get $1.50 for web downloads and $3.00 for High Quality downloads from that file. Very nice.
how can you tell what level your pictures are?

« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2006, 20:39 »
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They are all Level 1 unless they were entered for the Assignment or if they have reached 100 downloads on their own.

Quevaal

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« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2006, 00:26 »
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One thing:
I'm submitting photos, and there's no good explanation to be found regarding these things that I may check off or not.

Quote
Increase Max. Copies (I-EL) 
 Web Usage (W-EL) 
  Print Usage (P-EL) 
  Sell the rights (SR-EL)


I especially wonder what the deal is with   "Sell the rights (SR-EL)"

« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2006, 00:31 »
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Here is a quote from Dreamstime

Quote from: Dreamstime
Increase Max Copies (I-EL):
Extends our regular Royalty Free license to a maximum amount of printed copies of up to 2,500,000 copies.
This is an additional license to the rights included within the regular Royalty-Free license. Note that the other restrictions still apply.

Web Usage (W-EL):
Electronic Items for Resale: this license includes the right to use the photos for webtemplates that are sold to more customers, screensavers, e-cards, powerpoint presentations or as wallpapers on cell phones. Maximum number of electronical items is 10,000 copies (applies as a total of each type of usage). If this amount is exceeded you need to acquire this license once again. The new license will provide you with the standard amount of copies.
This is an additional license to the rights included within the regular Royalty-Free license. Note that the other restrictions still apply.

Print Usage (P-EL):
Physical Items for Resale: includes the right to use the photos for t-shirts, postcards, greeting cards, mugs, mousepads, posters, calendars, framed artwork that is to be sold to other customers for a maximum amount of 10,000 copies (applies as a total of each type of usage). If this amount is exceeded you need to acquire this license once again. The new license will provide you with the standard amount of copies.
This is an additional license to the rights included within the regular Royalty-Free license. Note that the other restrictions still apply.

Sell the Rights (SR-EL):
This license represents a full ownership of the downloaded image. The buyer can use it exclusively (exclusivity applies from the moment that the file was downloaded using this license), and include it in any type of design with just a few restrictions: sensitive subjects may still apply and the buyer may not claim that the file was created by him nor resell it as a photo.
The agency will disable the image immediately after the buyer acquired this license. The photographer is required to disable the file permanently from all other places where he may sell it, as soon as possible after the sale occured, but no longer than 72 hours. The photographer acknowledge and agrees to provide the buyer with full ownership for the file retrieved using the SR-EL license.

If a Model Release is available on file, it will remain within our database, a proof about its existence can be forwarded to the buyer, however, the MR info will still not be disclosed in respect of the photographers' and models' privacy.
This is an additional license to the rights included within the regular Royalty-Free license.

For any other details regarding usage or these licenses, you are strongly advised to contact Dreamstime.

Quevaal

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« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2006, 01:15 »
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Thanks!
I'll skip the last one at least.
Any views about the other options? Anyone here that don't check them off?

« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2006, 01:28 »
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I select them all except for selling the rights.

rinderart

« Reply #24 on: August 31, 2006, 12:53 »
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Excellent site.


 

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