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Agency Based Discussion => Dreamstime.com => Topic started by: red on March 13, 2013, 14:04

Title: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: red on March 13, 2013, 14:04
Announced on the Forums today (I'm not sure if it is a useful feature?) -

We're excited to introduce a brand new section on our site, the Cameras:

Smile, the Camera Section is ON!

http://www.dreamstime.com/cameras/ (http://www.dreamstime.com/cameras/)

Once you access the page, there are several filters relating to the camera brand, model or type of lens. We have also started adding images to each camera brand based on their EXIF info. We're working to add all images to their appropriate category but it may take weeks for the camera search filter to cover the entire database and be fully functional. Please be patient if you can't find your favorite lense yet.

This section is designed both as useful resource and new search filter. In this sense, we offer designers a searchable tool that allows them to find images based on specific camera info. It is also a research tool that gives them more insights into how certain cameras produce distinct looks and feel.

The 'Cameras' section is also aimed at photographers who can now see the different camera models most frequently used in stock photography. They can review and compare the images produced by cameras and can then make an informed purchase decision based on price level and technological features.

Enjoy the new feature and as always, your feedback is always welcome. The whole world fits into your camera!
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: tickstock on March 13, 2013, 14:07
Seems like a waste of time.
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: aspp on March 13, 2013, 14:11
Seems like a waste of time.

yep.

I could only see this being popular by the sorts of people who are more interested in cameras than they are in pictures. That's a great photo, you must have a good camera.
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: Mantis on March 13, 2013, 14:17
Seems like a waste of time.

yep.

I could only see this being popular by the sorts of people who are more interested in cameras than they are in pictures. That's a great photo, you must have a good camera.

or, "That's a great camera, you must have nice photos".
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: Mantis on March 13, 2013, 14:17
Seems like a waste of time.

yep.

I could only see this being popular by the sorts of people who are more interested in cameras than they are in pictures. That's a great photo, you must have a good camera.

or, "That's a great camera, you must have good photos".
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: luissantos84 on March 13, 2013, 15:05
waste of money, how absurd really... anybody knows a designer that will use only pictures shoot with 70-200?

we get it DT, you guys can pull numbers from Exif, YAY ;D

people stripping their exif maybe its time to get it back and quick or your sales will vanish :o
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: jareso on March 13, 2013, 15:45
Impact on sales may be questionable at first glance, but if it can (at least theoretically somehow) help in sales and driving possible buyers to site than – why not – it is good.

But I guess it will be probably used more by photographers than by buyers.

Anyway overall it is interesting feature, if for nothing else than just out of curiosity it is interesting to browse all of those photos by cameras and lenses.
I like it. :)
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: sharpshot on March 13, 2013, 17:17
Not much use for the times when I use a scanner or use autopanopro to stitch photos or when I use several photos taken with different cameras in one image.  And a lot of the time, the lens is far more important than the camera.
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: brm1949 on March 13, 2013, 17:29
It's like pbase. When I would look to see how certain lenses worked with different cameras I would search pbase for samples. Just google any camera and lens and pbase and you get a lot of samples. Same deal. I like it just for that. Feeds the lens lust.
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: ShadySue on March 13, 2013, 17:38
It's like pbase. When I would look to see how certain lenses worked with different cameras I would search pbase for samples. Just google any camera and lens and pbase and you get a lot of samples. Same deal. I like it just for that. Feeds the lens lust.
Maybe the manufacturers are sponsoring the feature.  ;)
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: gillian vann on March 13, 2013, 18:30
oh geez, just as the Nikon V Canon debate gets boring, DT somehow decides that the brand of camera you use determine the style of shots you create? what??

I agree as a photographer it will be very interesting to see what lenses are used to create images, but i doubt designers will care (or find it interesting). The few I've ever dealt with don't care how an image is made, just how it looks.

what a waste of resources (as usual, funded from that 80% they keep off our work's income). I'd rather they:
go through old stuff and delete it
go through and sort out keyword spamming

Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: tab62 on March 13, 2013, 19:34
or in the case of me they would say, "That's a great camera but the photographer sucks!"
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: JPSDK on March 13, 2013, 21:59
very dangerous thing.
now sales can be related to cameras, and pictures can be grouped after camera. That is a barrier,  just like in the old days where you could only contribute to agencies  if you had a professional camera.

It can be an agencys tool to sort the weed from the corn.

Better arm up, friends. Good that I just bought a new camera.
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: click_click on March 13, 2013, 22:18
First, the infamous "Stock Rank Game".

Then the similar rejections.

Now, images sorted by camera.

There are simply no benefits to any of these three features.

What a waste. Why DT, oh why?
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: rubyroo on March 14, 2013, 03:51
I can perhaps understand that someone might want to specifically find an image taken with a macro or fisheye lens.  But that information can be in the keywords, so I don't see why this is necessary to find that.

As far as which camera took the shot goes... it seems irrelevant to me, and I'm far too busy with the myriad of other aspects I have to deal with in life and in producing images to go searching for which camera other photographers are using.  As others have said repeatedly over time, it's not the camera that takes a great picture, it's the photographer's skill, eye and knowledge.

My feeling is that this is the wrong value system to apply to our craft.  The only thing that matters to the buyer is surely that the image is good and fits their needs. 
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on March 14, 2013, 07:35
oh geez, just as the Nikon V Canon debate gets boring,


Just as that got boring? Where have you been these last 20 years?  ;)
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: michealo on March 14, 2013, 08:58
Leaf has his very own section ;-)

http://www.dreamstime.com/cameras/leaf/ (http://www.dreamstime.com/cameras/leaf/)
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: SID on March 14, 2013, 09:44
What a waste of energy, time and money.

They better improve their sales and marketing performance than playing in the sandpit...
my 2 cents
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: mtkang on March 14, 2013, 09:53
i thought nikon D7000 is quite a good and popular camera..why it is not in the list? does it market as another model?
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: luissantos84 on March 14, 2013, 10:06
i thought nikon D7000 is quite a good and popular camera..why it is not in the list? does it market as another model?

nice find, they missed it, DT will put it up there and your sales won't be hurt ;D
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: cuppacoffee on March 14, 2013, 10:08
List is still indexing from latest photos to older cameras. it isn't complete yet. It will show up eventually. I'm waiting for my NeinGrenze 5000T to show up, I'm pretty sure I'm the only one using that camera.
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: mtkang on March 14, 2013, 10:10
ha, never heard about it... somehow the list is quite interesting. May not be useful..but maybe will bring in some traffic to dreamstime..

List is still indexing from latest photos to older cameras. it isn't complete yet. It will show up eventually. I'm waiting for my NeinGrenze 5000T to show up, I'm pretty sure I'm the only one using that camera.
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: michey on March 14, 2013, 10:54
Now, you need an Hasselblad to sell on Dreamstime...
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: michey on March 14, 2013, 10:59
... Or better you will see crappy images shots with Hasselblad too...
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: gostwyck on March 14, 2013, 13:49
How can it tell which lens is used? The EXIF data on my images (using a Canon) only records the focal length, say 40mm, when I've actually used a 24-70mmL lens.
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: OM on March 14, 2013, 19:12
Not only a waste of time but appealing to equipment snobs and subject to EXIF fraud...it' easy!

Find a file on-line taken with your desired (but unaffordable) camera, copy it into PS, duplicate it as layer, delete the pic info from that layer to get a transparent layer, delete original and save the transparent layer and paste your image taken with El-Cheapo cam onto it and the EXIF will show that it was made with eg D800 or whatever.

A colleague showed me how it was done after he sent a file purportedly coming from a Canon 5D MkII whilst it was in fact taken with a 40D.

Here's one taken with a D800 taken at 11.30pm on a January evening in NL! In reality a stitched pano with a D80 and 18-55mm kit lens.

Ah well, the EXIF data doesn't appear to be available so this is it from PSE Dutch Version.
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: Poncke on March 15, 2013, 02:41
How can it tell which lens is used? The EXIF data on my images (using a Canon) only records the focal length, say 40mm, when I've actually used a 24-70mmL lens.
exif data also show lens make etc. Lightroom lens corrections also reads exif to determine lens used and to apply the correct corrections
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: Mantis on March 15, 2013, 07:08
How can it tell which lens is used? The EXIF data on my images (using a Canon) only records the focal length, say 40mm, when I've actually used a 24-70mmL lens.
exif data also show lens make etc. Lightroom lens corrections also reads exif to determine lens used and to apply the correct corrections

Right.  Within Adobe's raw converter it has a lens correction option, and for it to work it needs to know what lens you used.  Sometimes I use it sometimes I don't. ;)
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: ShadySue on March 15, 2013, 07:15
How can it tell which lens is used? The EXIF data on my images (using a Canon) only records the focal length, say 40mm, when I've actually used a 24-70mmL lens.
It's all there. I can see some in Bridge (tells the lens used and the actual focal length used for each shot if zoom), Flickr (if you don't disable the feature) shows a larger data subset, and Opanda gives a much fuller set still, including actuations.
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: LesHoward on March 15, 2013, 19:52
What? No Holga? I started shooting with a Holga in order to capture Vetta images in camera without all that time consuming post processing.  :'(
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: Reaktori on March 15, 2013, 20:05
Wow! It's amazing how good vector illustrations a Nikon 70-200 can make!
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: qwerty on March 15, 2013, 22:34
Looks like canon 5dmkII is the most popular microstock camera (@DT)
1.15million.

not really a surprise.

Should I start shooting with a Casio QV-5700. Theres only 26 photos to compete with if a designer specifically wants an photo from that particular model.

Hang on there's the  Ricoh CX2 with only one photo. I'll be rolling in cash, nobody steal my idea okay !!!

I probably could have come up with something else to develop if I was running the show.



Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: roede-orm on March 16, 2013, 00:52
I'm still waiting for the sections for right-handed and left-handed Photographers 8)
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: gillian vann on March 16, 2013, 02:02
I'm still waiting for the sections for right-handed and left-handed Photographers 8)
that's using your marketing skills. let's keep going:
woman V men
blondes V brunettes
beardys V cleanshaven

oh what a demographer's dream.
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: Red Dove on March 19, 2013, 17:49
Sometimes when a suit with a $150 haircut says "Hey I've got this great idea to boost sales and improve the buyer experience" the better option is to use his iPad to beat him to a pulp.
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: Carl on March 20, 2013, 07:08
A pinhole camera in the hands of an artist can produce wondrous material.  Conversely, the most expensive camera on the market in the hands of a hack will produce nothing but shapshots.  And anyone who would say to a photogapher, "Your camera takes great pictures," would say to a chef, "Your pots and pans make really great meals."  Stupidity abounds.
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: Veneratio on March 20, 2013, 07:29
I'm still waiting for the sections for right-handed and left-handed Photographers 8)
that's using your marketing skills. let's keep going:
woman V men
blondes V brunettes
beardys V cleanshaven

oh what a demographer's dream.

What do I do if I'm a blonde woman with a beard but only on the left hand side of my face???
Title: Re: New feature: 'Cameras' section launched
Post by: rubyroo on March 20, 2013, 08:58
Sometimes when a suit with a $150 haircut says "Hey I've got this great idea to boost sales and improve the buyer experience" the better option is to use his iPad to beat him to a pulp.

LOL!

That's one of the funniest things I've ever read - and I know a LOT of people who will appreciate this (completely unrelated to the subject of this thread).  Thank you!  ;D