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Agency Based Discussion => Dreamstime.com => Topic started by: Dodie on July 05, 2016, 13:26

Title: Rejection with threathening
Post by: Dodie on July 05, 2016, 13:26
I got an image rejected for too much white space with this text:

"The area occupied by the isolated subject is too small, and by cropping the resulting image is under 3 Megapixels."

The image is an open diary/note book with flowers on top, isolated, so, long but not tall.

I cropped the image close to the isolated object on the long side but I kept the aspect ratio of the original format (3:2), it's my usual workflow because some agencies specify standard aspect ratio.

After the crop, the image was 6 Megapixel, so I resubmitted it with the resubmit button and a note.

This was rejected again but now I pissed the reviewer off big time, here he is shouting with uppercase and threatening "the stupid contributor":

"The area occupied by the ISOLATED SUBJECT is too small, and by cropping the resulting image is under 3 Megapixels.
You have submitted this image before and it was refused for the same reason(s) OR the resubmitted file is too similar with your initial submission. Please ensure that you did fix the problem(s). Do not resubmit identical images. Your account privileges may be restricted if you use this method
."

I had no intention to misbehave and the original image is 24 Megapixel, big enough even for DT but I didn't understand what the problem was. And what method is he talking about, it's their official resubmit button.

I don't give a da*n about my "privileges" of a few cents/month and I have no intention to resubmit but please enlighten me, do I have to cut out the middle of the image with no white space?

Again, it was accepted by all agencies the first time.

Many thanks for your thoughts.
Title: Re: Rejection with threathening
Post by: etudiante_rapide on July 05, 2016, 13:32
1) kneel down and thank the Universe for this
2) reply to the email as follows verbatim
THANK YOU SO MUCH. I WON'T DO IT AGAIN.
3) log out and forget about comatosedreams time

you will not regret it, as you make more in a single day with shutterstock
that you will make in at best a month over here.
and you will make , at best, 5 payouts in your lifetime if you are over the age of 40,
10 maybe at best if you are at the age of 20;
at worst, you will reach payout and when you do
you will be too old and fragile to type a message to request payout. 8)
Title: Re: Rejection with threathening
Post by: Dodie on July 05, 2016, 13:55
Thanks, I can't reply to a machine ([email protected]) and I don't want to.
You are right about reaching payout a few times in a lifetime, still the tone of the reviewer could be different.
Title: Re: Rejection with threathening
Post by: cathyslife on July 05, 2016, 14:30
It sounds to me like they want you to crop the actual image as close as possible, and NOT leave any white space. Forget the aspect ratio. They aren't going to sell an image that has more white than actual image. And they are saying that once you do that, the image will not be large enough.

"do I have to cut out the middle of the image with no white space?"
So do you have image on one side, then white space, then more image? It would be easier to see what they mean if you posted the image.
Title: Re: Rejection with threathening
Post by: Dodie on July 05, 2016, 14:50
You are right Cathy, thanks,  here is a sketch (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ClrWu6h4ySM/V3wOOgmW4TI/AAAAAAAAPnw/RTKFdMl8YN0DG8vTmIcS3PlUNuHLdjYVACCo/s500/notebook%2Bsketch.jpg).

I've seen many images with open books. I could have put something in the background but I wanted it to be isolated.
Title: Re: Rejection with threathening
Post by: cathyslife on July 05, 2016, 14:59
You are right Cathy, thanks,  here is a sketch (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ClrWu6h4ySM/V3wOOgmW4TI/AAAAAAAAPnw/RTKFdMl8YN0DG8vTmIcS3PlUNuHLdjYVACCo/s500/notebook%2Bsketch.jpg).

I've seen many images with open books. I could have put something in the background but I wanted it to be isolated.

Thanks, that was helpful. So yes, crop the white out around the outside of the book totally, as close to the book as possible. But if it isn't a vector, and you can't enlarge it, they are saying you won't have enough pixels for them to ever accept it. It might be one of those "cut your losses and move on" kind of images.  :(
Title: Re: Rejection with threathening
Post by: Dodie on July 05, 2016, 15:15
The original is a photo of 24 Megapixel but this one that I uploaded was downsized to 6 Megapixel. I don't upload full size images.
I'll move on, I just wanted to know for future images (if.....)
Thanks Cathy.
Title: Re: Rejection with threathening
Post by: PigsInSpace on July 05, 2016, 21:10
I've always suspected resubmit buttons end up back before the same reviewer. It's too late now on this one, because you clearly found the one zealous reviewer in all of micro stock, but in rejections of future images, I'd submit any changes as a brand new image, not linked to the old one.
Title: Re: Rejection with threathening
Post by: Chichikov on July 06, 2016, 03:33
Don't lose your time for a site selling less and less every day…
Title: Re: Rejection with threathening
Post by: AlessandraRC on July 06, 2016, 14:45
That's why I don't resubmit. Ever. It is a waste of time. I upload to a number of sites and do not keep track of rejections. Obviously I notice if an image is rejected by a number of sites, then I know there is something wrong with it. But usually the randomness of the process is discouraging and resubmitting often is not worth my time. As for dreams time, I might be too old to collect the next payout.
Title: Re: Rejection with threathening
Post by: Dodie on July 07, 2016, 01:21
That's why I don't resubmit. Ever. It is a waste of time. I upload to a number of sites and do not keep track of rejections. Obviously I notice if an image is rejected by a number of sites, then I know there is something wrong with it. But usually the randomness of the process is discouraging and resubmitting often is not worth my time. As for dreams time, I might be too old to collect the next payout.

Thank you all for your input. I was more interested about the rejection reason mentioned.

I don't resubmit either but this time I was stubborn because the strange rejection.

DT is a low earner for me too, very low lately but some people at the other thread (http://www.microstockgroup.com/dreamstime-com/dt-is-dead-not-for-me!!!/) still report good sales. I'm sure it depends on the portfolio, you can't expect earnings with a port of 200 images.

I said many times that I stop uploading but things change all the time in stock world, you never know which agency goes down or comes up. I made $0.90 in June and then, on the last day of the month some bigger sales came in, still not worse than 123, BS or DP.

Keeping my images on my hard drive will not bring anything in my pocket.