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Agency Based Discussion => Dreamstime.com => Topic started by: elvinstar on February 20, 2015, 15:22

Title: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: elvinstar on February 20, 2015, 15:22
Has anyone else seen a large number (relative to your normal volume) of $2.00 subscription sales at Dreamstime today? I've got about 5-10 times my normal volume today and the royalty for each was $2.00. I'm just worried that those downloads might be fraudulent.
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on February 20, 2015, 15:27
That's your Google ad payment.
http://www.microstockgroup.com/index.php?topic=24207.msg409017;topicseen#new (http://www.microstockgroup.com/index.php?topic=24207.msg409017;topicseen#new)
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: Karimala on February 20, 2015, 17:16
Sweet!  I'd missed the thread about Google.
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: photostockad on February 20, 2015, 17:46
20 dld for me
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: ronyzmbow on February 21, 2015, 01:09
Has anyone else seen a large number (relative to your normal volume) of $2.00 subscription sales at Dreamstime today? I've got about 5-10 times my normal volume today and the royalty for each was $2.00. I'm just worried that those downloads might be fraudulent.

Had the same and I like it!
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: kunilanskap on February 21, 2015, 04:36
I got 3, not bad :D
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: MarkB on February 21, 2015, 04:39
19 x $2 sales in last two days, mostly shots that rarely sell in the past
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: nicku on February 21, 2015, 04:42
same here an considerable amount of $2.00 subscription sales yestoday... most of the images are low sellers on DT
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: hansenn on February 21, 2015, 05:36
31, all low sellers
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: pixmicro on February 21, 2015, 06:42
Around 40-50 dlds for me... Hope this will not end as refund...
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: stockmarketer on February 21, 2015, 06:53
No worries on a refund.  These are all legit.  It's the deal with Google.

Congrats to all who realized the opportunity in this... and sorry to those who opted out.

Can't wait to see what happens under phase two of the deal in about a year.  W-ELs are going to be bought on these, though I'm unclear on whether it's all of them or just those shots that are chosen to continue into a second year. 

From Achilles' description on the DT forum:

"Provided the first phase of this project goes as expected, after a maximum of 12 months (we all hope it will be sooner), in addition to the royalties described above, Google will initiate another volume purchase of an upgraded W-EL license for each image. We might switch images that didn't perform well with new ones, awarding royalties as appropriate. For the second stage we will award EL royalties (25%-60%). Overall the royalties will average approximately 50%."


Thank you, Dreamstime!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: Beppe Grillo on February 21, 2015, 06:55
I have 10 of these $2 sales on Dreamstime, but all 10 have never been sold (before), level 0 images.
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: ferdinand on February 21, 2015, 07:35
 mickrostock suicide
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: Semmick Photo on February 21, 2015, 10:22
and sorry to those who opted out.


and I am sorry you prostituted your images to Google
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: robhainer on February 21, 2015, 11:49
Yep. 17 of those in a day. Totally random images, mostly minor sellers.
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: PokemonMaster on February 21, 2015, 13:35
I've got one zero level, but one purple. Opted out. I dunno, call me when they will pay per use and stop renting my works.
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: grandaded on February 21, 2015, 14:09
I wondered what was going on. Had a typical month's earnings in just two days; all $2.00 sub sales!
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: robhainer on February 21, 2015, 22:03
More of them today. Keep it coming.
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: Noedelhap on February 22, 2015, 18:36
I've had some $2 sales earlier in January, do these have anything to do with this deal? I am opted out of third party partner sales, so I guess not. But what are these $2 subscription sales then?
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: cuppacoffee on February 22, 2015, 20:45
5 and 10 all-at-once subscriptions. http://www.dreamstime.com/thread_35047 (http://www.dreamstime.com/thread_35047)
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: marthamarks on February 23, 2015, 00:21
I've had some $2 sales earlier in January, do these have anything to do with this deal? I am opted out of third party partner sales, so I guess not. But what are these $2 subscription sales then?
I had a bunch of those $2 sales too, before the Google deal started. (Or so I thought.) Now I'm opted out, so none are coming in.

I don't know what those sales were, and it's hard to know what to do in this case… stay out or opt back in to see what happens.
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on February 23, 2015, 01:35
LOL! I got told I was destroying the value of my portfolio and it looks like I've got just two of these sales! I guess 99.99% of the value of my portfolio remains undestroyed!
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: Phadrea on February 23, 2015, 04:01
13 for me. I was rather getting my hopes up at a sudden surge at DT.
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: w7lwi on February 23, 2015, 11:56
Just had my once-a-week check of DT and was surprised at the dozen or more $2.00 downloads over the past seven days.  What made it even more surprising was several of them were first time downloads, not only for DT, but for all other sites where they are up.  It will be interesting to see where they end up being used.
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: Karimala on February 23, 2015, 12:22
Quite a few of mine were rejected at other sites, so I'm pretty happy they now have a chance to earn income.
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: pixel8 on February 23, 2015, 13:05
I'm so glad I read this post, I had no idea that was happening, I got several of those sales which is awesome but I can't help but wonder if it is effecting SS sales as I have noticed in the same time frame a decrease in sales in SS which if that is the case I am not sure if its a good thing or bad.
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: lightphoto on February 23, 2015, 13:12
17 $2 sales in the past 3 days, and many are shots that are not typicalk bestsellers, which more than doubles my sales for February.  Thank you, Dreamstime and Google, presumably!
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: Pixart on February 23, 2015, 13:50
How are they reported?   I opted out right away, but still I am seeing $2 subscription sales from this weekend.
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: Nikovsk on February 23, 2015, 14:23
Last time SS was this slow for OD's was during christmas holidays. Not good at all.
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: Nikovsk on February 23, 2015, 14:29
Now tell me, has anybody ever got 2 of those sales from the same image?
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: cuppacoffee on February 23, 2015, 14:32
How are they reported?   I opted out right away, but still I am seeing $2 subscription sales from this weekend.

That's a different program - 5 and 10 image subscription packs. Check the forums.
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: Semmick Photo on February 23, 2015, 15:00
Now tell me, has anybody ever got 2 of those sales from the same image?

Are you talking about SS ODDs? (just asking as this is the DT thread). If you are, then I had 2 ODDs on the same image twice, in 3 years. :)
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: Nikovsk on February 23, 2015, 15:19
I was talking about these DT $ 2.00 sales but yes it was ambiguous.
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: pixel8 on February 23, 2015, 19:27
Are these the equivalent of SS on Demand Downloads or the 25 a Day? And what did DT used to pay for this type of download?
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: Mantis on February 23, 2015, 19:33
Are these the equivalent of SS on Demand Downloads or the 25 a Day? And what did DT used to pay for this type of download?

I think they are 1-time sales. Now Google can use them for a year, or something like that. But Serban promised there was more to share but he couldn't at that time. I am very curious as to what he will share that can possible be good for contributors. Contributors sure could use some good news that's got longevity to it as opposed to a one-time gig.
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: pixel8 on February 23, 2015, 21:01
Are these the equivalent of SS on Demand Downloads or the 25 a Day? And what did DT used to pay for this type of download?

I think they are 1-time sales. Now Google can use them for a year, or something like that.

Is there some place on DT that lists the details of these sales with Google, because if Google gets to use them for a year that can be very bad especially if they distribute them to others for a year.
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: pixel8 on February 23, 2015, 21:04
ok here is the answer to my own question

"The details of the program that we can share with you at this time are that Google has selected a large number of images from our collection for use in display ads: Google will be able to use pre-selected Dreamstime RF images only for ads, and in limited sizes to accommodate ads. During the beta period, images will not be available in a template library. These images will be used under the Royalty Free license in a beta for the next 12 months, and contributors will receive royalties soon. The royalties for the first 12 months will be based on our all-at-once subscriptions – i.e., $2.00 (non exclusive) and $2.20 (exclusive) per image.

As we do with other initiatives, Dreamstime supports the volume discounts and we expect to at least double our regular royalty rate. The volume discount also reflects the use case, since these images will be used in limited-sized ads and not in more prominent uses."
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: cuppacoffee on February 23, 2015, 21:57
http://www.microstockgroup.com/dreamstime-com/dreamstime-has-been-selected-as-a-beta-provider-of-stock-photos-for-google-displ/msg409211/?topicseen#new (http://www.microstockgroup.com/dreamstime-com/dreamstime-has-been-selected-as-a-beta-provider-of-stock-photos-for-google-displ/msg409211/?topicseen#new)
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: pixel8 on February 24, 2015, 00:36
Is it too Late to Opt out of This, have they already made the purchases or are there more to be made? I just opted out of alliances but maybe it does not matter now!

Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: MarkB on February 25, 2015, 11:45
Mine seem to have dried up as suddenly as they started - are other people finding this or is it just me? Or wondering if perhaps they batch 'em up and pay out at the end of a week perhaps?
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: PixelBytes on February 25, 2015, 14:01
Mine seem to have dried up as suddenly as they started - are other people finding this or is it just me? Or wondering if perhaps they batch 'em up and pay out at the end of a week perhaps?
The surge in $2 sales was part of the new Google deal.   They were added in a couple of batches over a coupke of days.  Now they are finished.  We are back to the regular sales and the few $2 sales from people who buy that subs package.
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: Semmick Photo on February 25, 2015, 14:32
Mine seem to have dried up as suddenly as they started - are other people finding this or is it just me? Or wondering if perhaps they batch 'em up and pay out at the end of a week perhaps?
The surge in $2 sales was part of the new Google deal.   They were added in a couple of batches over a coupke of days.  Now they are finished.  We are back to the regular sales and the few $2 sales from people who buy that subs package.

Yes, the $2 festivities are over, and now the images will be given away to an unlimited number of buyers with an unlimited number of downloads
Title: Re: Strange surge in $2.00 royalty subscriptions
Post by: sweetgirll on February 25, 2015, 14:51
I have a bunch of cartoons,
either vector or JPG, since the 23th I sold 8 of them for 2.00, however I only have 100 images on dreams, cause I never uploaded more there...

But I'm getting the sales for some of the same images..and some show the search term so I dont know where is coming from. Is that from google? how would you know?