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The Dreamstime levels system

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Wilm:
I can't contribute to statistical statements because my portfolio like everywhere else is relatively small, and because I don't have that many level 5 files.

But a few things stand out:

1. I have images that haven't had a single download, but are already at level 1. I don't know why that is. I also haven't checked how many there are.

2. Level 5 pictures: On average, I find that a high level is much more noticeable for vector files in the RPD than for photos, renderings and other CGI images. There is one exception: one vector file only earned $34 from 35 downloads, i.e. an RPD of less than $1 - the rest are significantly higher. For normal images, the best ones are in the $2 RPD range, but there aren't that many.


Wilm:
Sorry, missing screenshot...

pancaketom:
I haven't looked at the fine print, but basically all images start at level 1, if there are no sales after a certain time (6 mo?) thye drop to level 0. For sub sales - which are 90+ percent of all sales at DT it makes no difference anyway, but for other sales the cost goes up with higher levels and more importantly the % that the artist gets from sales of higher level images goes up with higher levels. For a while higher level subs sales cost more sub credits and paid higher, that is no longer the case.

The reason that they say a variable number of credits is because the cost varies based on the size of the image they sell. Also the $ amount is highly variable because the cost of credits varies wildly based on how big of a credit pack is purchased - and if it is purchased with a discount.

The # of sales to go up a level has dropped a lot through the years, but any benefit from this has been more than offset by the change from 50% for the artist to much less - 25% to 45% now.

https://www.dreamstime.com/sell-stock-photos-images

Wilm:

--- Quote from: pancaketom on January 22, 2024, 12:07 ---I haven't looked at the fine print, but basically all images start at level 1, if there are no sales after a certain time (6 mo?) they drop to level 0.

--- End quote ---

That sounds like a plausible explanation. Thank you!

Checking your statement, I just realized that almost 50% of my images at DT have no download. That's by far the worst rate of all the agencies!

But not much happens there anyway. I'll just let it continue...

sgoodwin4813:
In the old days the levels system made a big difference but nowadays almost all sales are subs where the levels are irrelevant.  My last credit sale was in October where a level 2 sale netted me $3.45.  Unfortunately those are rare nowadays.  What I really hate is allowing TIFF downloads with subs - those should be limited to the smaller sizes to encourage credit sales.

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