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« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2017, 13:54 »
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It's pretty clear when you sign up what the threshold is ... thresholds are everywhere. Even Google won't pay out under $100 through adsense. Read the * messages when you sign up.

When you pull up at the ATM (not sure what you'd call that where you live, a machine to dispense funds) Does it let you pull out $5? No, it doesn't because those machines cost money, transfers cost money, and money in the account makes money ... If you had a savings account with 100 dollars in it, that doubles in a year. Would you withdraw it for $10?


« Reply #26 on: June 28, 2017, 13:55 »
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It's pretty clear when you sign up what the threshold is ... thresholds are everywhere. Even Google won't pay out under $100 through adsense. Read the * messages when you sign up.

When you pull up at the ATM (not sure what you'd call that where you live, a machine to dispense funds) Does it let you pull out $5? No, it doesn't because those machines cost money, transfers cost money, and money in the account makes money ... If you had a savings account with 100 dollars in it, that doubles in a year. Would you withdraw it for $10?

With that said, even if you pull your IRA or something they'll pay it but, you'll take a penalty

turkstockfotograf

  • One day I shot a photo and my whole life changed.
« Reply #27 on: June 28, 2017, 14:20 »
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I would like to close the subject here. My purpose is just to announce that I live. I closed my account in the following sites and they all paid the remaining money.

Bigstock
Deposithphotos
Signelements
Colourbox
123rf
The only site that does not pay the remaining money dreamstime. I think dreamstime is the robber
 It's absurd to me that some of them still dreamstime right.



« Reply #28 on: June 28, 2017, 18:38 »
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I think that $100 is too much for them to hang on to. Yes, it is in their terms, so you really don't have much to go on. But they should consider lowering that mainly because it takes so long for many to even achieve $100.  Its just stingy. Most contributors don't quit correctly, though. Know the terms and them quit after you reach your threshold.  I know that's too late but just for others' future reference who don't know better.

« Reply #29 on: June 28, 2017, 20:32 »
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I think that $100 is too much for them to hang on to. Yes, it is in their terms, so you really don't have much to go on. But they should consider lowering that mainly because it takes so long for many to even achieve $100.  Its just stingy. Most contributors don't quit correctly, though. Know the terms and them quit after you reach your threshold.  I know that's too late but just for others' future reference who don't know better.

They really do need to decrease it to like ... $25 I don't think I've even sold anything there in a month or so.

« Reply #30 on: June 29, 2017, 01:55 »
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how did racism get in the mix? people from romania and the usa are of the same race?!?

« Reply #31 on: June 29, 2017, 03:04 »
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This is plain robbery as DT could easily manipulate your sales and stuck them right below 100. I had a balance of 98 USD for years and they refused to pay me out. I had to wait a few years to get my money.

« Reply #32 on: June 29, 2017, 03:37 »
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I do not understand what is the point of uploading to a place where it takes years to get a few dollars??? Nothing better to do?
I just had a look to their forum. There is a thread where people post about the last video sold: in one years there are less posts than what you see in the same kind of thread in any of the big 3 in only a few hours!

« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2017, 06:27 »
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I would like to close the subject here. My purpose is just to announce that I live. I closed my account in the following sites and they all paid the remaining money.

Bigstock
Deposithphotos
Signelements
Colourbox
123rf
The only site that does not pay the remaining money dreamstime. I think dreamstime is the robber
 It's absurd to me that some of them still dreamstime right.
Have you closed your SS account?

ShadySue

« Reply #34 on: June 29, 2017, 06:30 »
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I do not understand what is the point of uploading to a place where it takes years to get a few dollars??? Nothing better to do?
I just had a look to their forum. There is a thread where people post about the last video sold: in one years there are less posts than what you see in the same kind of thread in any of the big 3 in only a few hours!

There can be a big difference between video sales and stills sales.
E.g. I've read that videographers can do well at Pond5, but I've never read anything good about consistent stills sales there.
From what I can see, the OP is a stills photographer.

« Reply #35 on: June 29, 2017, 08:21 »
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You'd better get your big boy pants on for when you work out how Getty is screwing you....


I think you meant to say "drop your big boy pants" when Getty is screwing you  ;D

« Reply #36 on: June 29, 2017, 11:38 »
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I used to defend DT on this point ($100 min) but now that are sputtering out they really need to be more fair.    I'm lucky that I do get occasional cashouts thanks to some kind of grandfathered status, but it seems like anyone from last couple years can't break into semi-frequent sales.

« Reply #37 on: June 29, 2017, 12:20 »
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I closed my dreamstime account. I had $ 94 on my account. They said they could not pay because it was not 100$. This is an robbery.

I closed my accounts on other sites for to be exclusively on istock. Other sites paid the remaining money. DreamStime is a site that needs to be avoided. >:( >:(

i would suggest you write them to say, "considering you are all living on porridge, i donate what you just stole from me as charity !
they have been in coma for a long time, so pity them, pull the plug out of this vegetable and let them die in peace with your money LOL

turkstockfotograf

  • One day I shot a photo and my whole life changed.
« Reply #38 on: June 29, 2017, 13:26 »
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I would like to close the subject here. My purpose is just to announce that I live. I closed my account in the following sites and they all paid the remaining money.

Bigstock
Deposithphotos
Signelements
Colourbox
123rf
The only site that does not pay the remaining money dreamstime. I think dreamstime is the robber
 It's absurd to me that some of them still dreamstime right.
Have you closed your SS account?
No, I did not close my account. Because Shutterstock can also freeze the account. With one click you can freeze your account and You can turn it back on any time.

« Reply #39 on: June 29, 2017, 14:55 »
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I would like to close the subject here. My purpose is just to announce that I live. I closed my account in the following sites and they all paid the remaining money.

Bigstock
Deposithphotos
Signelements
Colourbox
123rf
The only site that does not pay the remaining money dreamstime. I think dreamstime is the robber
 It's absurd to me that some of them still dreamstime right.
Have you closed your SS account?
No, I did not close my account. Because Shutterstock can also freeze the account. With one click you can freeze your account and You can turn it back on any time.
Thats a neat feature they have

SpaceStockFootage

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« Reply #40 on: June 29, 2017, 19:43 »
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Think about it You worked 29 days in a job. Then you wanted to leave the work.
The boss says:I do not pay you a salary
Why?: Because you have not worked for 30 days.
The only word to say is to boss: "  OFF ! "

And the boss would reply with "well, the contract you signed clearly stated that you would not get paid unless you worked the full 30 days*" so you could tell him to f*** off all you like, but it wouldn't get you anywhere. Bottom line... when you signed up, you agreed to forfeit any money you made which didn't reach the $100 payout threshold. I don't agree with it, I don't think it's right... but that's just how it is unfortunately.

*That's not legal as far as I'm aware, but as an example for the real situation (which is legal), we'll imagine it is.

ShadySue

« Reply #41 on: June 29, 2017, 20:24 »
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Why not just buy something from yourself, so you reach the payout threshold?
This is typical american exploitation. I do not want to upload my photos again. I think I'm right.
Think about it You worked 29 days in a job. Then you wanted to leave the work.
The boss says:I do not pay you a salary
Why?: Because you have not worked for 30 days.
The only word to say is to boss: "  OFF ! "

You could be childish and petulant and say to the boss " OFF", or you could do the smart, grown-up thing and work your last contractual day and get paid.

BTW, it seems that your English is surely good enough to read at least the clause that if you don't make $100 you don't get paid.
« Last Edit: June 30, 2017, 05:44 by ShadySue »

ShadySue

« Reply #42 on: June 30, 2017, 04:59 »
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Think about it You worked 29 days in a job. Then you wanted to leave the work.
The boss says:I do not pay you a salary
Why?: Because you have not worked for 30 days.
The only word to say is to boss: "  OFF ! "

And the boss would reply with "well, the contract you signed clearly stated that you would not get paid unless you worked the full 30 days*" so you could tell him to f*** off all you like, but it wouldn't get you anywhere. Bottom line... when you signed up, you agreed to forfeit any money you made which didn't reach the $100 payout threshold. I don't agree with it, I don't think it's right... but that's just how it is unfortunately.

*That's not legal as far as I'm aware, but as an example for the real situation (which is legal), we'll imagine it is.

The legality would differ from country to country, but bonuses are a known thing here.
I once did a student summer job in which the contract said we'd get a bonus if we worked for the whole length of our agreed contract. (Presumably they'd had issues with numbers of students just swanning off in September in previous years.). During the contract we got minimum wages, accommodation, food and overtime, and if we stayed the full time we got our bonus (50% of minimum basic weekly pay) in a lump sum.
If we didn't keep the contract, we didn't get the bonus. (IIRC, you could make up for sick days at the end, this wasn't slave labour!)

There are also jobs which have bonuses linked to achieving targets. I've also read about jobs which pay zero unless you hit at least a basic target. Again, that will vary from country to country.

« Reply #43 on: June 30, 2017, 05:49 »
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Think about it You worked 29 days in a job. Then you wanted to leave the work.
The boss says:I do not pay you a salary
Why?: Because you have not worked for 30 days.
The only word to say is to boss: "  OFF ! "

And the boss would reply with "well, the contract you signed clearly stated that you would not get paid unless you worked the full 30 days*" so you could tell him to f*** off all you like, but it wouldn't get you anywhere. Bottom line... when you signed up, you agreed to forfeit any money you made which didn't reach the $100 payout threshold. I don't agree with it, I don't think it's right... but that's just how it is unfortunately.

*That's not legal as far as I'm aware, but as an example for the real situation (which is legal), we'll imagine it is.

The legality would differ from country to country, but bonuses are a known thing here.
I once did a student summer job in which the contract said we'd get a bonus if we worked for the whole length of our agreed contract. (Presumably they'd had issues with numbers of students just swanning off in September in previous years.). During the contract we got minimum wages, accommodation, food and overtime, and if we stayed the full time we got our bonus (50% of minimum basic weekly pay) in a lump sum.
If we didn't keep the contract, we didn't get the bonus. (IIRC, you could make up for sick days at the end, this wasn't slave labour!)

There are also jobs which have bonuses linked to achieving targets. I've also read about jobs which pay zero unless you hit at least a basic target. Again, that will vary from country to country.
It gets complicated with rules about minimum wage and whats constitutes employment or contracted activity . Bottom line its not worth taking DT to court for $100 even if you think it is robbery -commercial reality.

« Reply #44 on: June 30, 2017, 07:35 »
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What confuses me is that I've been told a couple of times here that there is no benefit in US based agencies (and DT is working under US laws) holding on to money from accruing commissions because they are not allowed to profit from it by investing it, they can't spend it, they can't even make any interest on it from the bank, so holding contributors commissions is nothing but a burden for them.
So what's the point of hanging on to $94 that can't ever be spent or used to support the business?

Brasilnut

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« Reply #45 on: June 30, 2017, 09:24 »
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I would suggest turkstockfotograf to create a new thread on DT's forum (under "suggestions and policies"), which may put some public pressure on them to pay up the $96 or reinstate his portfolio.

https://www.dreamstime.com/forum_3

turkstockfotograf

  • One day I shot a photo and my whole life changed.
« Reply #46 on: June 30, 2017, 10:43 »
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I would suggest turkstockfotograf to create a new thread on DT's forum (under "suggestions and policies"), which may put some public pressure on them to pay up the $96 or reinstate his portfolio.

https://www.dreamstime.com/forum_3
My account is closed. I can not post new topics.

nazlisart

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« Reply #47 on: June 30, 2017, 13:09 »
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I would like to close the subject here. My purpose is just to announce that I live. I closed my account in the following sites and they all paid the remaining money.

Bigstock
Deposithphotos
Signelements
Colourbox
123rf
The only site that does not pay the remaining money dreamstime. I think dreamstime is the robber
 It's absurd to me that some of them still dreamstime right.

Well, I think you should start contributing to Shutterstock before deciding to get exclusive with iStock/Getty....

« Reply #48 on: July 01, 2017, 03:17 »
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What confuses me is that I've been told a couple of times here that there is no benefit in US based agencies (and DT is working under US laws) holding on to money from accruing commissions because they are not allowed to profit from it by investing it, they can't spend it, they can't even make any interest on it from the bank, so holding contributors commissions is nothing but a burden for them.
So what's the point of hanging on to $94 that can't ever be spent or used to support the business?
I guess its the admin costs but it seems very small minded. One contibutor at least is neverr going back no matter how disastrous the exclusive venture might prove and its not good for their reputation (though most mstock companies don't seem to care about that)


 

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