Author Topic: What keyword was used to download an image at DT (Read 20906 times)

GeoPappas · « **on:** November 27, 2007, 15:33 »

Here is a snippet from the DT thread:

"The image details page had a face-lift. We tried to make it more organized and easier to read the information. When entering the page, the buyer would first see the image, the royalty free prices and lots of thumbs related to the initial image (for more options). He/she gets from one glimpse all the information he/she needs to quickly decide if that's the image he wants or not.

The second tab holds the prices for the extended licenses.

All the other features like image operations (add comment, add to lightbox, add to collection etc) or referral links were grouped together on the third tab: Tools.

For easier access, the tab defaults to the last used for the next image you browse within the same visit. (e.g if you leave a comment, using the tools tab, the same tab will be open by default on the next image you browse, making it easier to download, comment etc)."

Here is the whole thread:

http://www.dreamstime.com/thread_8749

leaf · « **Reply #1 on:** November 27, 2007, 15:43 »

looks like a nice thing as long as the buyer doesn't get lost. There are so many tabs inside tabs inside other windows on dreamstime that sometimes I get lost in the pages. A new buyer might find it hard to navigate but those who know their way around would probably find it helpful.

GeoPappas · « **Reply #2 on:** November 27, 2007, 15:48 »

Quote from: leaf on November 27, 2007, 15:43

looks like a nice thing as long as the buyer doesn't get lost.

I agree. You also have to wonder why so many sites make drastic changes during the Christmas rush season!?! Why not wait until January to implement all of these new upgrades?

leaf · « **Reply #3 on:** November 27, 2007, 15:53 »

Quote from: GeoPappas on November 27, 2007, 15:48

Quote from: leaf on November 27, 2007, 15:43
looks like a nice thing as long as the buyer doesn't get lost.

I agree. You also have to wonder why so many sites make drastic changes during the Christmas rush season!?! Why not wait until January to implement all of these new upgrades?

maybe they think the changes will increase sales.

Kngkyle · « **Reply #4 on:** November 27, 2007, 15:54 »

I don't see this as being that big of a chance. Not one that should confuse the buyers at least.

dbvirago · « **Reply #5 on:** November 27, 2007, 16:15 »

On every image I looked at, between the license tabs and the sizes, it said, "Error: Unknown Cipher blowfish"

GeoPappas · « **Reply #6 on:** November 27, 2007, 16:53 »

Quote from: Kngkyle on November 27, 2007, 15:54

I don't see this as being that big of a chance.

I guess that everyone is always optimistic about software releases, but the reality is that even the smallest change in the software code can manifest plenty of unforeseen errors.

Pixart · « **Reply #7 on:** November 27, 2007, 17:02 »

Was this there before? I looked at one of my own files and it showed similars... then immediately following it showed "More images from Pixart's portfolio". It only showed my most recent, most popular would be nice

still nice to see though.

GeoPappas · « **Reply #8 on:** November 27, 2007, 17:06 »

Quote from: Pixart on November 27, 2007, 17:02

Was this there before? I looked at one of my own files and it showed similars... then immediately following it showed "More images from Pixart's portfolio". It only showed my most recent, most popular would be nice still nice to see though.

I think that the "More images from..." area is new. I like it as well but would rather have it show my similar images, instead of my most recent.

madelaide · « **Reply #9 on:** November 27, 2007, 17:28 »

What should be under "Royalty free" tab, above the size vs prices? I get a animation (like it's downloading timer) and then an error msg: "Error: Unknown Cipher blowfish".

Regards,
Adelaide

Dreamstime News · « **Reply #10 on:** January 09, 2008, 08:23 »

>January 9, 2008 (06:30) - posted by Tangie
Good news for Dreamstimers: you are now able to see the words that sell best in your portfolios Our latest feature revealing keywords used for downloading has just been installed and welcomed on the site. To read more and post comments, access <a href="http://www.dreamstime.com/thread_8968" target="_blank">link.[/url]

GeoPappas · « **Reply #11 on:** January 09, 2008, 08:33 »

Interestingly enough, DT has added a new feature that will show you the keywords used for an image that was purchased. At first glance, this seems to be a very useful feature. Although, it won't help if you don't have good keywords in the first place.

Here are the details:

http://www.dreamstime.com/thread_8968

What do you guys think about this?

ale1969 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 09, 2008, 08:41 »

Quote from: GeoPappas on January 09, 2008, 08:33

What do you guys think about this?

I just noticed it this morning watching my downloads and it's really useful. It's also in the agency own interest to help us to find the best and more relavant keywords, insatisfied and bored customers go elsewhere.

DiscreetDuck · « **Reply #13 on:** January 09, 2008, 08:45 »

Erf, That is a suggestion I made in the LuckyOliver's Odditorium, 5 months ago.
Look at here : http://www.luckyoliver.com/odditorium/post/568/sale_information...
I believed that LO was the place for innovation but...

I am really happy that it is at last done by one site. Well played Dreamstime !
I think that in the past times, microstock websites had to have big pockets. In the future, they have to prove they have got a heart (and ears...)

pixelbrat · « **Reply #14 on:** January 09, 2008, 09:05 »

Quote from: GeoPappas on January 09, 2008, 08:33

Interestingly enough, DT has added a new feature that will show you the keywords used for an image that was purchased. At first glance, this seems to be a very useful feature. Although, it won't help if you don't have good keywords in the first place.

Here are the details:

http://www.dreamstime.com/thread_8968

What do you guys think about this?

Wow, what an awesome feature!! If only the other sites would do this.

null · « **Reply #15 on:** January 09, 2008, 11:17 »

Great! A very innovative feature! I saw that half of my sales at DT came from just one single keyword, and that the keyword isn't necessary related to the image bought. My mature lesbian couple was sold by the keyword man.

sharply_done · « **Reply #16 on:** January 09, 2008, 11:55 »

I don't think this new feature is working properly: one of my recent DLs an airplane image from the keywords "ski chalet"!

jsnover · « **Reply #17 on:** January 09, 2008, 12:03 »

A thread on the DT forums says that you can get spurious results occasionally - someone does a search, sees an image of yours in the results, then looks at your portfolio and buys. The keyword for the search, which may not be in the image purchased, will show up in the earnings column.

dbvirago · « **Reply #18 on:** January 09, 2008, 12:10 »

Mine seem to be working correctly, and giving interesting info. In several cases only one of the keywords entered were in my list.

sharply_done · « **Reply #19 on:** January 09, 2008, 12:23 »

Quote from: jsnover on January 09, 2008, 12:03

The keyword for the search, which may not be in the image purchased, will show up in the earnings column.

Yes, I read this before making my post. If ALL the shown search words aren't in the image's keywords, then they weren't used to directly find the image, and therefore should be listed differently or not at all.

Dreamstime News · « **Reply #20 on:** January 09, 2008, 13:23 »

>January 9, 2008 (06:30) - posted by Tangie
<span class=h7>Good news for Dreamstimers: you are now able to see the words that sell best in your portfolio. Our latest feature revealing keywords used for downloading has just been installed. To read more and post feedback, access <a href="http://www.dreamstime.com/thread_8968" target="_blank">link.[/url]</span>

Kngkyle · « **Reply #21 on:** January 09, 2008, 16:22 »

Very interesting and useful feature from Dreamstime. I hope other agencies follow their footsteps.

leaf · « **Reply #22 on:** January 09, 2008, 17:20 »

wow, great and very useful feature for us photographers. Hopefully other sites follow suit and hopefully they advance this feature so we can sort by our most popular keywords, or see a list of all the search terms an image has been purchased with.

JerryL5 · « **Reply #23 on:** January 09, 2008, 17:33 »

Thats good news. Now all I need is a sale.

wollwerth · « **Reply #24 on:** January 09, 2008, 21:37 »

Great feature. Very useful. Unfortunately, it says that my shot of a busy airport was found using the word mariachi.

leaf · « **Reply #25 on:** January 10, 2008, 03:11 »

well that tells you stuff too. I had a sky that was found using the word concrete.

But since I imagine that it just reveals the last search term used before an image purchase they obviously found the image when viewing my image of a concrete road (which they purchased right beforehand) using the word concrete.

Mellimage · « **Reply #26 on:** January 10, 2008, 03:46 »

Quote

But since I imagine that it just reveals the last search term used before an image purchase they obviously found the image when viewing my image of a concrete road (which they purchased right beforehand) using the word concrete.

It is good to know, that buyers check out portfolios too, not just use the search... .

digiology · « **Reply #27 on:** January 10, 2008, 12:50 »

Nice feature. Very handy!

fintastique · « **Reply #28 on:** January 14, 2008, 10:28 »

Nothing about this in the DT forum section so I thought i would mention it.

Since the beginning of the year you can now see what keyword was used when one of your images was downloaded (they are listed in the last download column) . Nothing spectacular but interesting to have a glimpse inside the mind of the buyer. I was surprised by the number of single word searches and more so by some very strange results.

keyword - solar panel image downloaded - map of Ontario

keyword - software image downloaded - seattle skyline with yacht

tln · « **Reply #29 on:** January 14, 2008, 10:54 »

keyword : sky -> image downloaded : fiber optic connectors

Pixart · « **Reply #30 on:** January 14, 2008, 11:46 »

It's interesting... almost like that game "7 degrees of Kevin Bacon". Perhaps all of your photos are 7 or fewer keywords away.

keywords: youth hispanic lonely
photo: an inukshuk on the edge of a lake (Inuit for a stack of rocks shaped like a man).

Keywords: ballot box
Photo: kid in classroom raising hand

Bateleur · « **Reply #31 on:** January 14, 2008, 13:47 »

Quote from: GeoPappas on January 09, 2008, 08:33

DT has added a new feature that will show you the keywords used for an image that was purchased.

What do you guys think about this?

What's wrong with me? The keywords that are shown as selling my images are all relevant ones.

Seriously ... it's a great feature. Congratulations to DT

Clivia · « **Reply #32 on:** January 14, 2008, 14:44 »

Keyword search: A delicious strawberry gateau and a cup of coffee;

Image bought; A delicious strawberry gateau and a cup of coffee

He he he.

With only one picture in the search result I was sure to get the sale!

Pixart · « **Reply #33 on:** January 14, 2008, 17:17 »

LEAF - I had several dls today from the keywords Saskatchewan and Manitoba. Did you did too? Someone working on a prairie project I guess!

Sure nice that they weren't subs... subs have been closing the gap this month, that's for sure.

leaf · « **Reply #34 on:** January 14, 2008, 17:25 »

yeah, i had three saskatchewan images purchased

How many sales did you get? Wonder what they are using them for.

Pixart · « **Reply #35 on:** January 14, 2008, 17:40 »

5 in all. Older ones. I've stopped adding Sask to the tags... I have so many prairie farmer type of pixs though, maybe I should review that...

leaf · « **Reply #36 on:** January 14, 2008, 18:10 »

Quote from: Pixart on January 14, 2008, 17:40

5 in all. Older ones. I've stopped adding Sask to the tags... I have so many prairie farmer type of pixs though, maybe I should review that...

yeah, it was nice to see that people actually search for sask. I had thought it was somewhat of a worthless keyword too.

madelaide · « **Reply #37 on:** January 14, 2008, 18:42 »

I had a sale on this image with the search "universal studio"

Regards,
Adelaide

leaf · « **Reply #38 on:** January 14, 2008, 18:50 »

they could have gotten to your image through a portoflio link or 'similar images' link after they searched for 'universal studio)

madelaide · « **Reply #39 on:** January 14, 2008, 19:03 »

Leaf,

I know not all searches link directly to the image purchased, but I found this one quite a huge discrepancy.

Regards,
Adelaide

bbettina · « **Reply #40 on:** February 07, 2008, 20:36 »

search term: plaster block
image bought: my toddler son playing with tools - honestly, he looks nothing like a plaster block

What's up with the n/a's anyway?

Pixart · « **Reply #41 on:** February 07, 2008, 23:29 »

LOL, have to add another one:

Search Words: Young Stylish Blond Woman
Photo Name: Naughty Little Boy

Valaaami · « **Reply #42 on:** February 08, 2008, 07:27 »

My overall favourite is: keyword "black woman" and he bought an image of a white male. Maybe he looked for Michael Jackson

Phil · « **Reply #43 on:** February 08, 2008, 17:21 »

I love this feature -

for the information it provides I am finding incredibly useful. I have a picture of some old ruins that sells better than any others - sales through 'pile rocks' 'rubble' 'building rubble' totally different to what I would have thought.

But I also see the difference in how people search, some are specific ie 'water hen' but others like "wildlife" got a picture of meerkat.

But I love the laugh it provides

coast shot - title sea and rocks - search 'antique brass compass thumb' ??
camouflage cloth - "russian flag"
lollipop - "jelly bean" - neither word in keywords
cells = "sh we"

dry lake = "b"

?
my eldest daughter swinging on rope on the river - title girl swinging - search "thick forest" - oh the rest of my family gave her heaps!!!

Graffoto · « **Reply #44 on:** February 17, 2008, 12:03 »

Somehow this shot titled 'Retro Glam' was downloaded following the keyword search for 'australian shepherd' (sic)!
Is she really THAT much of a dog?

null · « **Reply #45 on:** February 17, 2008, 13:46 »

My fav is my lesbian marriage, found by the keyword man.

Favors my guess that customers rely heavily on visual search too.

madelaide · « **Reply #46 on:** February 17, 2008, 16:13 »

keywords: function phone

keywords: success student on a laptop

Yes, I guess the student was so successful he made enough money to start investing in the stock market.

Regards,
Adelaide

admart01 · « **Reply #47 on:** February 17, 2008, 18:23 »

Quote from: nosaya on February 17, 2008, 12:03

Somehow this shot titled 'Retro Glam' was downloaded following the keyword search for 'australian shepherd' (sic)!
Is she really THAT much of a dog?

Well, I feel totally ripped off - I've got lots of great aussie shots!

My favorite from a recent download is this one "Construction Houses"

madelaide · « **Reply #48 on:** February 20, 2008, 16:15 »

keyword: bulgaria

scrappinstacy · « **Reply #49 on:** February 20, 2008, 16:23 »

"Boy toddler white background" is the search that resulted in these two sales:

However, my personal favorite was searched by "manure" and shown below:

I get a kick out of seeing the search words. I find it useful to see people are actually clicking over to my portfolio to continue looking.

Phil · « **Reply #50 on:** February 21, 2008, 01:02 »

2 different sheets of parchment was "italian breakfast" - perhaps they are making the point of cereal tasting like cardboard ??

and liquid metal got an image of a starfield titled 'bright star'

sensovision · « **Reply #51 on:** February 21, 2008, 10:58 »

Hi folks! I didn't read whole thread as low on time at current moment so apologize if someone told same thing before me

I believe that know the answer why most of these keywords are actually appear as those which lead for sales. Just take a look on a way how DT store info about you. It place cookie to your browser with name "dtlastsearch" which actually store last typed phrase in the searchbar, and no matter what you do on the site this key phrase left there as long as you didn't type new one(not very wise solution IMHO, but sometimes it could be helpful I guess).

So when someone is checking out value from this cookie is used as keyword which lead for sale... no matter if you found this image for example on the first page of the site or in similar images or have it bookmarked.

I guess that unless they change behavior of search function on the forum there would be not much of use from keywords unless you see that this keyword appear somewhere in your image.

digiology · « **Reply #52 on:** February 28, 2008, 16:52 »

keyword: draw computer

Phil · « **Reply #53 on:** February 29, 2008, 05:01 »

Quote from: digiology on February 28, 2008, 16:52

keyword: draw computer

cool

I just sold my third "russian flag" over a few weeks. Looks like a piece of camouflage material to me, and doesn't have russian or flag. once was funny, 2nd time odd, now its weird

I think I have put some pictures of russian flags on

madelaide · « **Reply #54 on:** February 29, 2008, 16:51 »

Quote from: rustyphil on February 29, 2008, 05:01

I just sold my third "russian flag" over a few weeks. Looks like a piece of camouflage material to me, and doesn't have russian or flag. once was funny, 2nd time odd, now its weird

I also have one image in which the same unrelated keywords appeared in three consecutive dlds. I believe the two last ones were those in which search keywords are not available, and the system shows the last known keywords.

Regards,
Adelaide

sensovision · « **Reply #55 on:** February 29, 2008, 17:03 »

Quote from: madelaide on February 29, 2008, 16:51

Quote from: rustyphil on February 29, 2008, 05:01
I just sold my third "russian flag" over a few weeks. Looks like a piece of camouflage material to me, and doesn't have russian or flag. once was funny, 2nd time odd, now its weird
I also have one image in which the same unrelated keywords appeared in three consecutive dlds. I believe the two last ones were those in which search keywords are not available, and the system shows the last known keywords.

Regards,
Adelaide

Actually it's very easy to check if keyword in cookie appear in the profile for downloaded image and if not doesn't display keyword in statistic, not sure why DT programmers wouldn't take care of this...
And if keyword wasn't found they could display for example in which category image was found.

madelaide · « **Reply #56 on:** March 06, 2008, 16:05 »

This is not to report another strange keyword, but that DT search tool indeed looks into the description field. This image:

was purchased by someone searching for "roland". In the description field, I say this is the type of court used in Roland Garros, but I don't have Roland as a keyword (unlike other generic images, such as this or this - the latter is so spammed with tennis words that do not relate to the image!).

Regards,
Adelaide

sensovision · « **Reply #57 on:** March 06, 2008, 16:09 »

Thanks for info, Adelaide! I was also wonder if they will look into description field or just use keywords and see if they present in description field and add more value to them(I think something like this was written in their guidelines).

lukasztymszan · « **Reply #58 on:** April 21, 2008, 15:33 »

Hi.
I sold a picture of a wedding bouquet newbielink:http://www.dreamstime.com/wedding-image1605396 [nonactive]
and it was searched by "ghana".

I didn't know how could I connected this and got a bit confused but as I can see - being very new here - I'm not the only one.

Greetings