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« on: October 28, 2010, 07:55 »
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Hey guys, and girls!

I own a Canon 5D Mark II and I'd like to start shooting video. Unfortunately I don't know much about it. A while ago I bought a Shure microphone to photograph and still have it. I'm wondering if I can use that with my 5D II (it's for an interview sort of thing).

The thing is that the cable from the mic doesn't fit the canon, so my question is, can I use adaptors to make it fit? Would that work?

This is the microphone:


The adaptors I think I need:

The blue (female) one:


and than this one:


Is that possible? I don't want to spend US$200 on a mic just now, so I'm just wondering if that would work at all!

Thanks!

PS: I just found out this cable here:


(told you I didn't know anything about this) :( Would that work? :D


« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2010, 08:55 »
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That should work, with the bottom adapter you found.  I can only think of one concern (maybe two) The mic may look obtrusive in the shot and although i havent worked with your mic Im wondering if a speaking voice is going to be picked up ok if you move the mic out of camera view.  why not plug it in and give it a try.

As you may have discovered in your own research this is the DSLR' videogrpahers cats meow http://www.rode.com.au/microphone.php?product=VideoMic , I do have one of those and it really is a sweet mic, -

Another awesome sound device is the Zoom H4n http://www.vistek.ca/store/ProVideoMicrophones/247062/zoom-h4next-handy-recorder.aspx  Ive recorded interviews, and spoken poem performance, as well as sound efects with the Zoom and its Great

I would like to get a set of  Lavalier mics - the kind you put on your shirt, but havent researched them and cant make a recommendation

« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2010, 08:59 »
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the connector of your mic implies it might need external power which will not come from Canon... so it might mean that you would need a pre-amp to use it.

What kind of video are you planning to shoot? You don't need sound at all for any stock footage. Internal mic of 5D Mk II is good enough for family type shooting. And if you are planning to get serious about interview/reportage and/or movie production you will need to invest either to a decent mic or to an external recorder.

I just bought Zoom H1 recorder (which is quite cheap option for around $100) - it's light and can be mounted on top of the camera, or can be used hand-held for interviews... It is not as well built as H4 and has fewer option but is cheaper, lighter and still has very good quality mics and good quality recording.
« Last Edit: October 28, 2010, 09:01 by MikLav »

« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2010, 10:14 »
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Hey MikLav.

Thanks for the reply. I want the mic for simple things like shooting a simple "making of" interview and commentaries. The one I have next is on the beach and it might be windy, so I don't want all that wind noise.

Would something (VERY SIMPLE and cheap) like this work on the 5D II? - http://goo.gl/mTIa -

I don't need "CNN News" quality audio, but just something that would get fair enough sound.

Thanks again...

Didn't see Artmyth's reply, sorry!

Thanks as well. I had a look at that Rode mic but it's a bit more than I want to spend. I'm going to try to conect my current mic, but I need the adaptor first, so I'm going out to try and find it after lunch! ;)
« Last Edit: October 28, 2010, 10:16 by Dan_Wiedemann »

« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2010, 10:44 »
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Would something (VERY SIMPLE and cheap) like this work on the 5D II? - http://goo.gl/mTIa -

it will probably work but they don't provide enough technical details to say for sure

for example Sony ECM-DS70p will work, as well as other consenser microphones using either a battery or a plugin power.
« Last Edit: October 28, 2010, 10:46 by MikLav »

« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2010, 11:02 »
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I have a Tascam DR-07 audio recorder which has built-in mics as well as the option to plug other mics into it. It works great and is fairly inexpensive. If you've got time, you can get the Audio-Technica ATR6250 condenser mic which has a hot-shoe mount for less than $30 on ebay.

« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2010, 11:44 »
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Quote from: elvinstar
If you've got time, you can get the Audio-Technica ATR6250 condenser mic which has a hot-shoe mount for less than $30 on ebay.

Yeah... I found it for US$29. It would be perfect. Shame the shipping to Brazil costs US$39. Why do I live in a third-world and far away country?

Quote from: MikLav
it will probably work but they don't provide enough technical details to say for sure.

Uhmm... interesting. I'll try to find the adaptor for my current Shure mic and check it, if that works, the other ones should too!

Thanks for the replies guys! :D Always nice to count on the good folks here! :D

« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2010, 04:40 »
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the connector of your mic implies it might need external power which will not come from Canon... so it might mean that you would need a pre-amp to use it.

What kind of video are you planning to shoot? You don't need sound at all for any stock footage. Internal mic of 5D Mk II is good enough for family type shooting. And if you are planning to get serious about interview/reportage and/or movie production you will need to invest either to a decent mic or to an external recorder.

I just bought Zoom H1 recorder (which is quite cheap option for around $100) - it's light and can be mounted on top of the camera, or can be used hand-held for interviews... It is not as well built as H4 and has fewer option but is cheaper, lighter and still has very good quality mics and good quality recording.


Similar to Miklav I bought the Zoom H2

The H2 is a little larger than the H1 but the quality is probably pretty similar.  In retrospect I think it would have been nice to have a mic that could attach to the hotshoe like the H1.

jbarber873

« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2010, 18:50 »
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   I have the h1 and the quality is amazing! The h1 will not take an xlr, but the big brother to it will- the h4.
I have some microphones with xlr pins, and they all need phantom power from a mixer or a preamp. By the time you buy that, and the adapters, the money will add up.  There is a website I use to buy sound equipment, and the sales rep is very knowledgable. They would be happy to explain what the mic you have would need, and what would be a cheaper alternative. My advice is to not skimp on the sound if you can afford it. You won't get a chance to make the sound better later. Here is the info if you are interested. It's worth talking to someone with the correct information. Otherwise, you'll end up with equipment that is not compatible.

Charlie Davis
Sales Engineer
Sweetwater Sound Inc.
toll free: 800-222-4700 x 1320
local     : 260-432-8176 x 1320

« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2010, 05:44 »
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I confirm that very cheap (about $5 - most likely fake) Sony ECM-DS70P that I bought on ebay from Hong-Kong (that one: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180555960254) works flawlessly with 5D Mk II.

From what I can judge, the quality of my voice is quite good.

genuine one costs $48 on B&H.

some notes of genuine vs fake: http://reviews.ebay.co.uk/Fake-SONY-ECM-DS70P-Microphones_W0QQugidZ10000000001653017
« Last Edit: November 10, 2010, 05:51 by MikLav »

« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2010, 00:56 »
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I shoot a monthly web/TV show using my Canon T2i and I use a Zoom H1 for audio recording along with a number of cheap chinese audio devices.  A couple of lav mics, a hand-help dynamic mic, and a shotgun mic.

I got the info on most of them from a web site called CheesyCam which is an outstanding resource for cheep film making equipment:

http://cheesycam.com/

We use the lav mics for interviews where no movement is needed, the shotgun mic on a cheap boom pole for groups of 3 or more, and the hand-held mic for interviews where we're moving around a lot.  I just connect what we are using to the H1 and then connect the H1 to the T2i for reference audio (for replacing with the H1 recorded audio).

« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2010, 08:24 »
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Thanks for the useful post I was going to get a H4N but after reading the post decided to go to H1 as I don't need the extra features that H4n offers. Thank you guys :)

PS:I actually just bought it:) can't wait to try:))))
« Last Edit: November 11, 2010, 09:19 by stokfoto »


 

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