Author Topic: Adding motion to timelapse footage in post? (Read 6726 times)

Belish · « **on:** February 28, 2016, 11:37 »

Hello,
I'd like to know our opinion on should I be adding some motion in my timelapses in post production. Is it more attractive to the buyer? And if it is better, what motion do you think is suitable - panning, tilting zooming in/out, any combination...?
Any advice will be appreciated.
Thank you in advance!

Mantis · « **Reply #1 on:** February 28, 2016, 12:11 »

sometimes it can help but the main aspect is the time-lapse itself. A very gentle zoom or pan can often help add visual quality but not in all cases. Just depends. When I downsize from 4K I add additional "gentle"motion about 50 percent of the time.

MartinD · « **Reply #2 on:** February 29, 2016, 04:58 »

Like Mantis said it depends.

A great way to add some movements:

http://www.videocopilot.net/tutorials/animating_a_still/

Sometimes i use the technique above, sometimes just layering, or both, like in this example i did a few days ago during my skiing holidays:

Best regards,

Martin

fritz · « **Reply #3 on:** February 29, 2016, 05:08 »

http://www.panolapse360.com/

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #4 on:** February 29, 2016, 05:10 »

I prefer no motion when buying a timelapse, so that I can add my own. However, although it's a relatively simple process, some people might not know how to do that, they might not be able to achieve something as good as you can, or they may not consider adding such an effect... so they automatically feel that one with motion is better than one without, if that's the kind of thing they are looking for.

If there's the option to upload both, then that's probably the way to go. That's the way I see it anyway.

Chichikov · « **Reply #5 on:** February 29, 2016, 05:12 »

I think that it can be good for longer cuts.
A Ken Burns effect could transform something boring in something more interesting
See here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0jans-KUE4

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #6 on:** February 29, 2016, 06:06 »

Quote from: Chichikov on February 29, 2016, 05:12

I think that it can be good for longer cuts.
A Ken Burns effect could transform something boring in something more interesting
See here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0jans-KUE4

I completely agree, but if you've got five, ten, twenty clips in a row, then you want to vary the Ken Burns action so it's not repetitive. So you want left to right, zoom in, right to left, zoom out etc etc. If the Ken Burns effects has already been applied then you're limited to which clips you can use and/or whic order you put them in.. so it;s not zoom in, zoom in, zoom in, left to right, left to right, left to right etc etc.

If that makes sense?! But I agree, that kind of effect would add interest to a clip, especially if its on its own... but if somebody is editing multiple clips together, then it can reduce the usability of the clips.

Chichikov · « **Reply #7 on:** February 29, 2016, 08:18 »

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on February 29, 2016, 06:06

Quote from: Chichikov on February 29, 2016, 05:12
I think that it can be good for longer cuts.
A Ken Burns effect could transform something boring in something more interesting
See here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0jans-KUE4

I completely agree, but if you've got five, ten, twenty clips in a row, then you want to vary the Ken Burns action so it's not repetitive. So you want left to right, zoom in, right to left, zoom out etc etc. If the Ken Burns effects has already been applied then you're limited to which clips you can use and/or whic order you put them in.. so it;s not zoom in, zoom in, zoom in, left to right, left to right, left to right etc etc.

If that makes sense?! But I agree, that kind of effect would add interest to a clip, especially if its on its own... but if somebody is editing multiple clips together, then it can reduce the usability of the clips.

Well if you make the timelapse directly "in camera" you will get a movie, so you cannot do a lot without loosing quality. Downsize from a 4K is not a real good solution. It could work today, but tomorrow when 4K will be more than a standard all the downsized movies will become obsolete…
On the other side if you shoot photos (better size/resolution) to make then a timelapse with a video editing software you will have more possibilities to zoom/crop/pan.
And nobody forbids you to upload the original without effect + the one with effect. In this way you will have a chance to satisfy more customers/demand. IMHO

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #8 on:** February 29, 2016, 08:26 »

Yeah, that's what I'm saying... upload with and without effects if possible. If it's one or the other, panning and zooming effects will appeal to some and not to others, so it's a bit of a tough one.

MartinD · « **Reply #9 on:** February 29, 2016, 08:38 »

Uploading both could be the solution, right, but the render times, and the disk space...
Especially when you are working with RAW files.
Not easy to decide.

Best regards,

Martin

mojaric · « **Reply #10 on:** March 01, 2016, 02:03 »

if is just a post production effect i would avoid that...in stock i just upload maximum quality and then if a choice of the customer to add any "post production" movements

Another story is if you are using a smart head or something like that you have a real movement....for sure movements are "attractive" in timelapses but is easily understandable if is "real" of an effect

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