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Title: Motorized sliders
Post by: tickstock on August 17, 2014, 12:42
Anyone using one for timelapse and live action?  I've been looking at this one by dynamic perception but the price seems low compared to other manufacturers.  It looks to be a few thousand less than a Kessler.  http://www.dynamicperception.com/Stage-One-Complete-2-Axis-Motion-Control-Bundle-p/bdl-1-c2a.htm (http://www.dynamicperception.com/Stage-One-Complete-2-Axis-Motion-Control-Bundle-p/bdl-1-c2a.htm)
Any thoughts on this? 
Title: Re: Motorized sliders
Post by: elvinstar on August 17, 2014, 18:56
Dynamic Perception were one of the first to have a complete solution on the market. I wouldn't hesitate to purchase from them based upon what I've read online.

Take that for what it's worth as I'm not an owner of any Dynamic Perception or Kessler products. I use my Cinemoco (which is considerably less expensive than the Dynamic Perception solution) and love it! I really like the flexibility of straight or curved moves.
Title: Re: Motorized sliders
Post by: Will on August 17, 2014, 21:43
Might be worth a look at Edelkrone. They have a modular system that you can build into. I'm very tempted however haven't purchased or used one yet so can't speak from experience but their system does look good to me.

http://www.edelkrone.com (http://www.edelkrone.com)
Title: Re: Motorized sliders
Post by: tickstock on August 18, 2014, 10:55
Thanks for the replies. 
elvinstar, I'm a little hesitant about the one you posted.  A belt driven model would seem to be more reliable. Have you found that it produces consistent results, I guess I'd worry that the wheels would slip and not be as precise. 
Will, my worry about the edelkrone system is that it would be unbalanced and maybe tilt as the slider itself moves.

The other thing I would like is vertical lift as well as horizontal movement.
Title: Re: Motorized sliders
Post by: elvinstar on August 18, 2014, 17:32
I would definitely love vertical tilt. It's the one thing that I feel is really missing regarding the Cinemoco. However, I have had very good results in both shoot-move-shoot mode and continuous mode.
Title: Re: Motorized sliders
Post by: cobalt on August 19, 2014, 14:39
Mine is from slidekamera

http://www.slidekamera.com/ (http://www.slidekamera.com/)

Very smooth and easy to control. Doesn't do vertical lift though.
Title: Re: Motorized sliders
Post by: tickstock on August 19, 2014, 15:03
Mine is from slidekamera

[url]http://www.slidekamera.com/[/url] ([url]http://www.slidekamera.com/[/url])

Very smooth and easy to control. Doesn't do vertical lift though.

Not available in the US and no prices listed.
Title: Re: Motorized sliders
Post by: cobalt on August 19, 2014, 16:24
I will see them at Photokina next month. Iīll ask them if they have a US distributor.
Title: Re: Motorized sliders
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on August 28, 2014, 10:54
What about this one?  Do any of these do ease in/out where you want it to stop?
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=CIAPR (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=CIAPR)
Title: Re: Motorized sliders
Post by: tickstock on August 28, 2014, 11:08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGPE2IRIp5w#t=97 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGPE2IRIp5w#t=97)
I saw these before, the price and features look good but I would wait at least a month until some reviews come in.
Title: Re: Motorized sliders
Post by: gloch on August 28, 2014, 19:00
FWIW I first purchased the Stage One setup from DP and while they were very good to work with, the product felt cheap. With my 5D and a 70-200 (heavy lens, yes) it would bow in the middle. This was two sections connected for a total of 4 feet. This combined with a couple of other glitches and I returned the system and bought a Kessler setup. So much happier.

-gl
Title: Re: Motorized sliders
Post by: tickstock on August 28, 2014, 19:32
FWIW I first purchased the Stage One setup from DP and while they were very good to work with, the product felt cheap. With my 5D and a 70-200 (heavy lens, yes) it would bow in the middle. This was two sections connected for a total of 4 feet. This combined with a couple of other glitches and I returned the system and bought a Kessler setup. So much happier.

-gl
Thanks for your input.  I would like a shorter version of the stage zero but it looks like it only comes as a 6ft piece.  How was it using something a little lighter like a wide prime?  Did it feel good doing verticals?
Title: Re: Motorized sliders
Post by: gloch on August 29, 2014, 10:19
The rails on the Stage one never quite matched up for me so, the movement was never smooth. The DP support believe I had a bad batch of rails. I also hated the interface of the motion box it came with – it felt like 1970s tech. I just can't recommend the platform. There are so many options now that it just doesn't make sense. Do you have a budget in mind?
Title: Re: Motorized sliders
Post by: tickstock on August 30, 2014, 06:42
The rails on the Stage one never quite matched up for me so, the movement was never smooth. The DP support believe I had a bad batch of rails. I also hated the interface of the motion box it came with – it felt like 1970s tech. I just can't recommend the platform. There are so many options now that it just doesn't make sense. Do you have a budget in mind?
I see they are on their 3rd version of the controller, is that what you had or an older one?  I'd like to keep my budget under $2,000 for this.
Title: Re: Motorized sliders
Post by: gloch on August 30, 2014, 09:14
For around $2000, you could just squeeze in the Second Shooter 3 axis system from Kessler with a Pocket Dolly 2.0. That would give you a a really nice, portable setup.

-gl
Title: Re: Motorized sliders
Post by: tickstock on August 30, 2014, 09:42
That does look good, too bad it's not out yet.  I guess I'll just have to wait.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Motorized sliders
Post by: cg3dphoto on September 01, 2014, 07:35
I'm using the pocket dolly from Kessler with the elektraDRIVE, they are excellent, worth to take a look.
Title: Re: Motorized sliders
Post by: Alatriste on September 03, 2014, 05:01
Mine is the Zenslider:
http://zenslider.com/ (http://zenslider.com/)

I donīt think you can find anything with better support and price
Great people behind this.


You can see it in action here:
https://vimeo.com/98854986 (https://vimeo.com/98854986)
Title: Re: Motorized sliders
Post by: cobalt on September 03, 2014, 06:55
That one looks good and is incredibly cheap. If they are on photokina I will check them out.

My slider company will not be happy,  this seems to be the same product, just much cheaper.
Title: Re: Motorized sliders
Post by: Alatriste on September 04, 2014, 06:55
That one looks good and is incredibly cheap. If they are on photokina I will check them out.

My slider company will not be happy,  this seems to be the same product, just much cheaper.


I dont think they are in Photokina as I think it is a small company but the communication is flawless. Try to email them if you want:
http://zenslider.com/contact/ (http://zenslider.com/contact/)
Title: Re: Motorized sliders
Post by: Nikosbernardo on December 10, 2014, 06:05
Good quality and low price time lapse slider is Camtree time lapse slider and it produces very less noise . Camtree have 3ft and 8ft timelapse slider. Check out this link
http://www.flycamdslr.com/hdvs/ (http://www.flycamdslr.com/hdvs/)
http://www.flycamdslr.com/hdvs/camtree-3ft-motorized-timelapse-slider.html (http://www.flycamdslr.com/hdvs/camtree-3ft-motorized-timelapse-slider.html)
Title: Re: Motorized sliders
Post by: sgoodwin4813 on December 10, 2014, 20:25
Mine is the Zenslider:
[url]http://zenslider.com/[/url] ([url]http://zenslider.com/[/url])

I donīt think you can find anything with better support and price
Great people behind this.


You can see it in action here:
[url]https://vimeo.com/98854986[/url] ([url]https://vimeo.com/98854986[/url])


This looks good.  I went to their web site and priced it out.  The basic slider with VAT and shipping comes to almost 725 euros so around $905 delivered to the US (Indiana).  The Flycam version is $854 with shipping so the price for each is similar.
Title: Re: Motorized sliders
Post by: ZenSlider on December 12, 2014, 17:20
Hi guys,

Let me emphasize the fact that ZenSlider is the lightest motorized slider in the market. Less than 4 pounds (1.6 Kg).

We have a special sale, a kit that includes ZenSlider and our new product ZenFocus, a motorized follow focus and follow zoom that is managed with the same ZenSlider controller.

Drop us an email for a discount in ZenSlider

Regards
Javi
Title: Re: Motorized sliders
Post by: ZenSlider on December 12, 2014, 17:24
Mine is the Zenslider:
[url]http://zenslider.com/[/url] ([url]http://zenslider.com/[/url])

I donīt think you can find anything with better support and price
Great people behind this.


You can see it in action here:
[url]https://vimeo.com/98854986[/url] ([url]https://vimeo.com/98854986[/url])


This looks good.  I went to their web site and priced it out.  The basic slider with VAT and shipping comes to almost 725 euros so around $905 delivered to the US (Indiana).  The Flycam version is $854 with shipping so the price for each is similar.


Hi mate,

Shipping to US has no VAT, so price should be around 600 EUR including shipping (around $750). Drop us an email for an exact quote and an discount.

Regards
Javi
Title: Re: Motorized sliders
Post by: flashon on December 12, 2014, 17:37
You may also want to check out Syrp Genie, http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home/search?N=0&InitialSearch=yes&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma&Top+Nav-Search&Ntt=Syrp%20Genie (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home/search?N=0&InitialSearch=yes&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma&Top+Nav-Search&Ntt=Syrp%20Genie)

This person used it and produced this amazing work, http://www.picturecorrect.com/tips/stunning-timelapse-showcases-the-ethereal-beauty-of-norway/ (http://www.picturecorrect.com/tips/stunning-timelapse-showcases-the-ethereal-beauty-of-norway/)
Title: Re: Motorized sliders
Post by: sgoodwin4813 on December 12, 2014, 18:08
Mine is the Zenslider:
[url]http://zenslider.com/[/url] ([url]http://zenslider.com/[/url])

I donīt think you can find anything with better support and price
Great people behind this.


You can see it in action here:
[url]https://vimeo.com/98854986[/url] ([url]https://vimeo.com/98854986[/url])


This looks good.  I went to their web site and priced it out.  The basic slider with VAT and shipping comes to almost 725 euros so around $905 delivered to the US (Indiana).  The Flycam version is $854 with shipping so the price for each is similar.


Hi mate,

Shipping to US has no VAT, so price should be around 600 EUR including shipping (around $750). Drop us an email for an exact quote and an discount.

Regards
Javi


Thanks - that's good to know.  It adds the VAT into the price if you fill out the order form on the web site - might want to put a note that it doesn't apply to the US.  It sounds like a great product.