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Microstock Footage Forum => Video Equipment / Sofware / Technique => Topic started by: Magnum on July 14, 2010, 04:20

Title: Upsizing without loss of quality
Post by: Magnum on July 14, 2010, 04:20
Im arguing with a guy at Mp about upsizing. He says Canon has a software that makes it possible to upsize a RAW photo almost unlimited without visible degradation.

I want that software for nikon as well ;)

Do anyone know what he may be talking about? 
Title: Re: Upsizing without loss of quality
Post by: sharpshot on July 14, 2010, 05:19
Sounds like BS to me :)  You can upsize raw files using Digital Photo Professional but there is degradation with any software, photoshop is probably just as good.
Title: Re: Upsizing without loss of quality
Post by: etienjones on July 14, 2010, 05:33
Genuine Fractals is considered the best at upsizing but if the truth be known it is only marginally better than Photoshop (using the 10% rule, which is upsizing 10% then upsizing 10% again, etc, etc) The fact is, you just can't ask a program to add pixels and keep the quality beyond increases of ~ 50% max.
Title: Re: Upsizing without loss of quality
Post by: click_click on July 14, 2010, 07:21
...He says Canon has a software that makes it possible to upsize a RAW photo almost unlimited without visible degradation....

Yes, it's a fictional software programmed in the future around the year 3500. By then Canon will have developed a sensor that works analog and not digital anymore hence the possibility to upsize without quality loss.

The "native" resolution equals to a 7.000 TeraPixel image and a 128-bit color depth. One image requires 3 Petabytes in hard drive storage. Once upsized to 100 times the "original" size in order to create a banner that wraps around the world 5 times you need a hard drive that holds about 345 Zettabytes.

The estimated price will be around $7.000 (plus tax). A bargain compared to Nikon's counterpart which probably will sell for $200.000 (plus tax).
I don't know why Canon is usually cheaper than Nikon...

P.S. If the guy IS right, send me a PM with the name of the software company - I hope they have some shares left because then I won't have to do microstock anymore for a living.
Title: Re: Upsizing without loss of quality
Post by: microstockphoto.co.uk on July 14, 2010, 09:05
almost unlimited?

nice! then I can shoot a single picture of the world and from them zoom in and crop and upsize and create all the future pictures in my port
Title: Re: Upsizing without loss of quality
Post by: click_click on July 14, 2010, 09:08
almost unlimited?

nice! then I can shoot a single picture of the world and from them zoom in and crop and upsize and create all the future pictures in my port

Yeah you can easily put Google Earth/Maps out of business that way! Awesome idea.
Title: Re: Upsizing without loss of quality
Post by: Magnum on July 14, 2010, 09:37
almost unlimited?

nice! then I can shoot a single picture of the world and from them zoom in and crop and upsize and create all the future pictures in my port

Ha ha, Slightly exaggerated maybe...

Quote " The guy"

" But taken in RAW then developed in tiff or tga it would be zoomable up to 500 time before noticeable degredation and I cant for the world figgure out why you would zoom that much and to what use."

500 times ???  Even if he means 500% itīs quite a lot...
Title: Re: Upsizing without loss of quality
Post by: microstockphoto.co.uk on July 14, 2010, 09:56
almost unlimited?

nice! then I can shoot a single picture of the world and from them zoom in and crop and upsize and create all the future pictures in my port

Ha ha, Slightly exaggerated maybe...

Quote " The guy"

" But taken in RAW then developed in tiff or tga it would be zoomable up to 500 time before noticeable degredation and I cant for the world figgure out why you would zoom that much and to what use."

500 times ???  Even if he means 500% itīs quite a lot...

hope he means 500% - even in that case, it depends on the kind of image: some photos with smooth gradients upsize well with special 'fractal' algorithms, while others with lots of detail result in ugly artifacts.
Title: Re: Upsizing without loss of quality
Post by: click_click on July 14, 2010, 10:08
almost unlimited?

nice! then I can shoot a single picture of the world and from them zoom in and crop and upsize and create all the future pictures in my port

Ha ha, Slightly exaggerated maybe...

Quote " The guy"

" But taken in RAW then developed in tiff or tga it would be zoomable up to 500 time before noticeable degredation and I cant for the world figgure out why you would zoom that much and to what use."

500 times ???  Even if he means 500% itīs quite a lot...

He is talking out of his butt. I'm sure he is not referring to an image that is just one big gradient. Therefore he has no clue what he is talking about.