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Title: video editing software for newbie
Post by: Anya on October 05, 2016, 09:21
Up to now I have only shot and sold stockphotos, but I want to start selling footage as well. Which would be a good program for a starter (intuitive or easy handling)?

It should at least offer trimming, cropping, color/contrast correction and of course encoding for the agencies. On top it seems advisable to have an easy to use application for blurring something like a brand label on a cellphone or a face of some passerby in the background. I have just tested Sony Movie Studio Platinum and I could achieve this with a mask, but this would not follow the person... I do not know how this is called... maybe object-tracking?

And since I don't know now how many videos I will produce, I would prefer a program which costs up to about 100$/80.

I would be very grateful for your help.

Anya
Title: Re: video editing software for newbie
Post by: increasingdifficulty on October 05, 2016, 12:50
Just trimming and exporting. Any program.

But as soon as you said blur tracking you really should get into After Effects right away if you want to keep doing this.
Title: Re: video editing software for newbie
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on October 05, 2016, 12:56
DaVinci Resolve.  You won't believe it's free.
Title: Re: video editing software for newbie
Post by: skysense on October 06, 2016, 16:18
DaVinci Resolve.  You won't believe it's free.

Agree.

It i not the best solution for editing a video, but for basic clip cutting/trimming will do the job. Tho editing is not its best side, this program is used professionally for color grading videos/clips. You can use tracking, and everything you need for stock footage. And it is completely free! :)  And there is a ton of tutorials on yt.
Title: Re: video editing software for newbie
Post by: increasingdifficulty on October 06, 2016, 16:41
DaVinci is incredibly powerful, yes, but pretty much the opposite of "easy to get into". AE is quite a mess at first too...

However, the free DaVinci lacks noise reduction (something you might want to use on every single clip, depending on camera) and limits you to UHD resolution render. That's fine in most cases but not when doing time lapses and you want to output true 4k.
Title: Re: video editing software for newbie
Post by: JaenStock on October 06, 2016, 17:14
im using photoshop cc...  :-[ but works...
Title: Re: video editing software for newbie
Post by: Anya on October 07, 2016, 07:58
Thank you very much for your help. I will look into that.

Anya
Title: Re: video editing software for newbie
Post by: stephano on October 07, 2016, 13:07
May be you like liquivid
http://liquivid.com/ (http://liquivid.com/)

But I'm not sure if it's good. Had no test on it.
Costs 20$
Title: Re: video editing software for newbie
Post by: Rage on November 13, 2016, 06:45
Same here, I way using Magix movie editor, then tried getting into after effects for the warp stabilizer. I'm still trying to figure out if the effort and cost of after effects is worth it for stock
Title: Re: video editing software for newbie
Post by: unnonimus on January 02, 2017, 18:03
MovAVI does most of what I need. you can trim and do conversions without rendering; it will copy the original frame so you end up with the exact same quality as the original, pixel for pixel. I almost never use anything else.

I also recommend Mercalli.

Sony Vegas (Movie Studio) for many years was the best of the low end video editing programs, but they did sell it off to another company.
Title: Re: video editing software for newbie
Post by: dragonblade on February 18, 2017, 19:06
Normally, I would recommend Sony Movie Studio - it's quite a versatile program and easy to learn. It covers most of my needs. However, there is one major disadvantage - the lack of a serious 1080p option. You can output videos at 1080p but only as a rather obscure file format that's not recognised by many devices and at a low bitrate.
Title: Re: video editing software for newbie
Post by: Zalee on February 18, 2017, 22:59
I also want to start doing videos. I don't know much at all but my camera is capable of 4K, should I start with 4K?
Title: Re: video editing software for newbie
Post by: alno on February 19, 2017, 01:39
I also want to start doing videos. I don't know much at all but my camera is capable of 4K, should I start with 4K?

4K would be better generally. Check the options in your camera, some of them can produce more fps for HD format, which is good sometimes.
Title: Re: video editing software for newbie
Post by: SpaceStockFootage on February 19, 2017, 02:17
I also want to start doing videos. I don't know much at all but my camera is capable of 4K, should I start with 4K?

If it's a decent camera then 4K is the way to go. Maybe upload a 1080p version as well, to sites that don't have the option to buy smaller versions, to maximise sales. Some 4K cameras have small sensors, not the best lenses and a low bitrate, so might not look that good... although you can give it a try and always render to 1080p after you've edited, if it's not looking very good. 4K downscaled to 1080p should look pretty crisp.   
Title: Re: video editing software for newbie
Post by: Zalee on February 19, 2017, 05:10
Thanks Irina and SpaceStockFootage. Video is such a learning curve!

I think the quality should be okay but I will take your advice to upload 1080p version as well.
Title: Re: video editing software for newbie
Post by: Zalee on February 26, 2017, 00:03
I'm trying to sort out which software to use. I downloaded a free trial of Movavi Video Editor and now that I'm considering buying it, it seems I can get Movavi Video Suite a little bit cheaper and it seems it includes the Video Editor. Does anyone recommend this or do you have a better program you would recommend learning with. I didn't want to sign up for the extra cost with Adobe CC.

Thanks, any advice appreciated.

Anya, did you decide which you would use?
Title: Re: video editing software for newbie
Post by: increasingdifficulty on February 26, 2017, 04:02
If you look one year in the future and see yourself doing more and more video I really suggest starting with the real software right away.

My recommendation for ultimate control would be After Effects for single clips. There is a learning curve but sooner or later you will have to learn the advanced stuff if you see yourself uploading quality footage.

If you strive for perfection (or will in the future) stabilization, masks (exposure correction of a sky for example) and control over blurring (trademarks, people) is essential.
Title: Re: video editing software for newbie
Post by: Brightontl on February 26, 2017, 06:18
Most people doing serious video stock use After Effects, a few use Premiere (more suited for mounting several clips with sound,, rather than single clips) or Final Cut on Mac.
Don't know much about DaVinci Resolve, but I understand that it is used mainly for color correction rather than as a all in one solution (maybe I am wrong).
Keep in mind that video is very complicated and a lot of people coming from photo, try video for a while and then let it go.
Maybe a solution to start with a cheap stepping stone would be Premiere Elements. The interface should be rather similar to After Effect where you eventually go after a while
Title: Re: video editing software for newbie
Post by: JoeClemson on February 26, 2017, 08:49
DaVinci Resolve (free edition) is a powerful, professional, programme which will require much investment in time, especially for a beginner, to learn how to use it.  I use it for my stock clips in preference to Adobe Premiere Elements because of the detailed control it gives over colour control and stabilisation. Premiere Elements offers similar control but the tools are not as good and, in my experience, the resulting output not as good.

Neither offer noise reduction out of the box and that is the only feature I miss.
Title: Re: video editing software for newbie
Post by: Rage on March 03, 2017, 13:17
The biggest issue is how long video takes to render and just how big the files are....started using after effects to get 4k done. But its a time consuming affair
Title: Re: video editing software for newbie
Post by: increasingdifficulty on March 04, 2017, 06:23
The biggest issue is how long video takes to render and just how big the files are....started using after effects to get 4k done. But its a time consuming affair

That is not an issue. It's a good thing that keeps 1 million photographers from competing. At least for now...
Title: Re: video editing software for newbie
Post by: Wlee2060 on October 23, 2019, 05:44
Hello,
What I'm using now is Joyoshare Media Cutter. This is a simple video cutter and editor, easy to operate and very suitable for beginners like me. The most important part is that I can easily cut the videos, remove the unwanted parts, merge the video clips, etc. without quality loss. Besides, I can also adjust the video's brightness, contrast, saturation and hue, add some watermarks, subtiles, background music files, apply special effects, etc. So far still happy with it.
Title: Re: video editing software for newbie
Post by: everest on October 23, 2019, 23:36
Go Davinci. Ultra powerful and not that difficult if you follow an online course. I would stay away from Adobe Premiere and AE because of their subscription costs that will only rise in the future.
Title: Re: video editing software for newbie
Post by: georgep7 on October 24, 2019, 03:05
The biggest issue is how long video takes to render and just how big the files are....started using after effects to get 4k done. But its a time consuming affair

That is not an issue. It's a good thing that keeps 1 million photographers from competing. At least for now...

Love the honesty!  8)
Title: Re: video editing software for newbie
Post by: Zero Talent on October 24, 2019, 20:09

However, the free DaVinci lacks noise reduction (something you might want to use on every single clip, depending on camera) and limits you to UHD resolution render. That's fine in most cases but not when doing time lapses and you want to output true 4k.

Not true. Davinci Resolve has a fantastic noise reduction module (which is available in the paid Studio version) and can export in many resolutions, custom or predefined (up to 8K)

DR is a beast!
Title: Re: video editing software for newbie
Post by: Dennis Radeke on October 25, 2019, 10:43
Just trimming and exporting. Any program.

But as soon as you said blur tracking you really should get into After Effects right away if you want to keep doing this.

As much as I want to say "yes" to this as an Adobe person, After Effects is definitely not the right tool for a self described newbie.  Lots of great tools out there and have been mentioned.  If you stick with it (and I hope you do), then take a good look at Premiere Pro and yes, After Effects for some clean up, tracking and object removal.

Dennis
Title: Re: video editing software for newbie
Post by: georgep7 on October 25, 2019, 11:18
We all started from scratch Dennis :)
Many people attracted from the free option of Davinci, dived from zero and became full users.
There are some many AE guides and how to's that one can develop a simple workflow and enhance it in the future. If the user is not interesting in multicam edit or long clips event assembly etc etc perhaps it is better to go with AE.

As a side note if i could start over i would prefer over everything a node based nle like Nuke.