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Agency Based Discussion => Featurepics.com => Topic started by: dbvirago on December 26, 2006, 08:42
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Haven't sold anything there since 11/21. By far my slowest site. November was my best month and December close behind everywhere else.
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I was selling one or two per month, then I decided to lower all the prices at $2.70 to check if it would make a difference. It did. November became my best month with 3 sales. December was my best month ever with 5 sales (3 in large format and 2 in smaller format), which at that price is the equivalent of selling 34 pictures at SS. Although the sales show low numbers, I expect them to grow.
dbvirago, what is your selling price at FP?
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I'm all over the place, but lately have been raising prices. My thinking was, if something did sell, it would make up for it, but that hasn't worked. I may try your method - were you able to do a global price change?
There are some I have priced very high, using them as more of a macro stock site, but not sure if that will be effective either.
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There are 2 options to change prices globally. Go to 'Account Settings', and then:
- either "Set flat price for ALL your images"
-or "Set percentage of prior prices for ALL your images"
Setting a reasonable lower price and selling more feels good. It's also a way for FP to stay competitive in the stock market. I also like their attitude towards the photographers.
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I had my best month there with 3 sales and US$4 earnings (not outstanding, I know...). Interesting information about the price effect. I have prices set so that the 800x600 cost 99c. I will change some and see what happens.
Regards,
Adelaide
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Not many sales there for me either, but, ya gotta love the site. Set your own prices? I've heard of people setting their prices up to $200. I don't know if they sell, but ??? Most my prices are from 1 to 5, with an ocassional 8, I've sold at 6.
I think, or maybe better, wish, all sites operated on the Featurepics format.
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Have sold 2 there since joining in late October with a portfolio of 62.
The good commission makes up for number of sales.
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yes i have sold a few at Featurepics since i join. i am happy cos i get 70% of the payout. I think with time, it may work here. They are friendly and they take suggestions, so with such positive attitude i would say the future is good for them. I set my prices mainly betwwn $4-$5 with resize options.
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I've had a total of 16 sales on that site since I joined late August 2006. I set all my prices to $2.00 with resizing options. I've never been able to get the FTP to work so that's been kind of a pain to upload but other than that, I'm hoping the site will take off soon.
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i sold one 2 days back after Long time (since august also) ... i have 7 downloads only there
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I've sold 23 since March with 456 images uploaded. As takestock said, I think the good commission makes up for number of sales also. I have some images priced low and some high and have sold both. I think it's a great site and worth putting time into.
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Only four sales in three months. I've priced my photos from 5-7 mostly. I don't think there's much point in setting the prices much lower as long as the re-sizing option is used. When customers find the image they need, one or two dollars extra won't matter that much. The question, as always, is if they can market the site properly. That would be nice.
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I sold one 2 today !! this month is good since i started
http://www.featurepics.com/Authors/Images619.aspx
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Unfortunatelly this is the only one where I've never sold 1 pic but keep uploading "against my good sense".
I don't know if it's my pictures, something I'm doing wrong or they don't really sell too much. My "huge" earnings are on the $0,02 thanks to a referal.
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Unfortunatelly this is the only one where I've never sold 1 pic but keep uploading "against my good sense".
I don't know if it's my pictures, something I'm doing wrong or they don't really sell too much. My "huge" earnings are on the $0,02 thanks to a referal.
Same here Miguel. Not one sale so far. Although I like the concept of this website, they have to improve it somehow. For the moment it's rubbish--a combination of everything from ridiculous to sublime. There are too many rubbish images priced too high on that website. Imagine as a designer all the mess you have to look through to find a decent image at a reasonable price. I would not bother in their place.... there are plenty of alternatives.
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As it looks this is not a mass seller site. So I went there and priced all my images at 30, and submitted one collection with my underwater pictures with a nice discount of 40%.
Maybe I'll get some luck like this who knows...
If it happens to sell something with this new aproach I'll report it here.
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I like the way they are always adding new features suggested by the members. The way they implement some coding is good to use them in our own websites and redirect buyers to FP if they want do by something. I already got two sales plus referral earnings this way.
Regards,
Adelaide
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I have been selling 3-4 pictures a month for the past few months I am with Featurepics so I am quite pleased. It's not a lot but with 70%, I get $1 - $3 a sale cos my photos are set between $4-5 with resize options.
I have great expectations of this site and will continue to upload cos they give the most payout. Gracey mentioned that she has received a few payouts from Featurepics so I am hopeful about it. ;D
Oh and of course I love it that they listened to all my suggestions to improve the site and they took them all up and took action to enhance Featurepics according to all my suggestions. (Most site just ignored my suggestions.) So I am happy to know that quite a no. of the features there is a result of my suggestions
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I have received a payout - quick, paypal and only a $50 limit.
I only get a few sales a month but with the 70% commission, it definately pays of being there.
They are definately a site everyone should support. If there volumn of sales increased to big 6 levels, they would probably be a top earner for most people due to high commission.
If your not there, get on there now. I can be bother giving my link so follow one leafs link to your right (help support the site).
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I just went with FP a few weeks ago, only have a handful of pix there. I haven't noticed so many views... However, I was pleased to see everyone of my pictures show up on page one of mutliple pages of the subjects.
I will continue to upload there, understanding that sales will not be typical of microsites. Then again, when/if I make any, they'll be nicer sales.
Price-wise, I went with the advice I received here, all priced at $4.00 with sizing options.. I've got one pic priced higher. I like the shot, if someone else likes it, maybe they'll pay the extra bucks. If not, no loss to me. Heck, truth is, it's selling for a quarter elsewhere.... now I think I sound like I'm 'whoring' my pix....... :D
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At the monent I am averaging 3-4 sales/month... SY
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Hi!
I've been with featurepics for about 3 weeks. I uploaded my complete portfolio there (around 400 photos) which were mostly accepted and which sell well at the big 5 and the other agencies.
Didn't get a single sale from them yet. I'm considering to remove my photos from them, but at the moment I just stop uploading to them and wait - can't hurt.
All the best,
Michael
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They are one of my absolute slowest, but they are new, so I'll give them more time. They are also very friendly, accept editorial pictures, and pay well, so it may well be worth the wait.
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I joined the beginning of januari with approx 200 photo's and made 3 sales this month. They are priced at $5 with re-sizing option.
They are friendly, at respond fast an I like being able to incorporate my collections with them in my own website
Olga
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Sales in FP are indeed slow, but they happen and they're always listening to suggestion and upgrading the site.
BTW, now collections have referrals too, thanks to me. ;)
Regards,
Adelaide
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Seems to me that FP is a waste of time.
Hopefully one day it won't be.
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I just went with FP a few weeks ago, only have a handful of pix there. I haven't noticed so many views... However, I was pleased to see everyone of my pictures show up on page one of multiple pages of the subjects.
I will continue to upload there, understanding that sales will not be typical of microsites. Then again, when/if I make any, they'll be nicer sales.
Price-wise, I went with the advice I received here, all priced at $4.00 with sizing options.. I've got one pic priced higher. I like the shot, if someone else likes it, maybe they'll pay the extra bucks. If not, no loss to me. Heck, truth is, it's selling for a quarter elsewhere.... now I think I sound like I'm 'whoring' my pix....... :D
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Heh...
featurepics is a strange ship for me. One month of 560 photos online an nothing. And now - over night - suddenly 6 sales at once. Time to upload the rest of my photos ;-)
All the best,
Michael
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This month was dead there for me and then today a very nice sale making me almost US$12. I'm happy. :D
Regards,
Adelaide
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zero. 8) -tom
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Just got a 21.88 $ sale.
Normally one a month.
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Hmm...maybe my tactics are wrong, I'm selling all photos for 1 USD there ;-)
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It was an el-sale. Image was priced 10$.
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I seem to sell 2 a month there regardless of price. I've started raising prices to see what the market will bear. I'd like to use them as more of an outlet for higher priced images, but there isn't enough volume to get a sense of what sells there.
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In my case was a small version of a US$60 image.
(http://www.featurepics.com/FI/Thumb/20060407/CanterburyCathedral17600.jpg)
Regards,
Adelaide
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I've priced mine mostly at $8 with resize option. It's been averaging out to a little more than one sale a month. On the upside, zero rejections and painless uploads means slow sales don't bother me.
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Hi all,
I've now changed my price from 1 USD to 5 USD without the resize option. I figure that if a company wants my image, then it doesn't care much if they pay 1 or 5 USD (it's both peanuts for them). I've also removed the resize option due to the same conclusion.
Let's see how it works.
All the best,
Michael
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I got an email a few days ago from the site admin about a buyer interested in one if my illustrations but with another color. I promptly made a new version as requested. Today it was purchased (I suppose by the requestor) as an EL, paying me US$16.63.
So right now FP jumped to the 4th position this month, a few centes behind StockXpert. Of course, it can't be yet seen as a trend, but it's quite nice, isn't it? :)
Regards,
Adelaide
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since 2 months and 0 downloads..!
Same pics in SS, IS, BS, DT, 123, have made almost 1000 ds!
i have asking them to delete my portfolio and receve the following email:
"The Images that have been here at least 90 days or more will be deleted immediately
Remaining images will be deleted autmatically as soon as the 90 day holding period elapses.
You account will be closed when the last image is deleted."
So i have to wait a little, but ofcource i will not upload any pic.
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Received my first payout from FP. Not the fastest sites in terms of sales, but one of the easiest to upload, and friendly, responsive owners.
I'll keep uploading to them ;)
cheers.
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Still not many sales with FP but I am sticking with them. They did make more for me than lucky oliver last month and I like being able to set my own prices.
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im glad it's working for someone, just for me was a waste of time.
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not a one......................... not even good views. 8)-tom
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On my way to a second payout in a year. Sells 7x as much as LO, where I started at the same time. My shots are 5$-3$, depending on size, so as to make the lowest size around 1.2$.
I love the site since it's one for photographers, and it gives you the most freedom in content and price setting. FP is unlike all other MS sites. I use FP as the engine on my own site, to limit my bandwidth and to avoid adding a cart. Got good results with that. In short, it's a poor man's Photoshelter.
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I repriced all to $2 about 6 weeks ago after looking at their stats page and seeing the spikes at $2 and $5
http://www.featurepics.com/Editorial/Stock-Image-Price-Statistic.aspx
since doing so my sales are 2x luckyO and marginally more than crestock & canstock for the same period (but that isn't saying much :):)
I also just found their sales by category page
http://www.featurepics.com/stat/soldimagesfromcategories.aspx
you can see cool stuff and use it to work out that they sell more shots of adult women than they do of hedgehogs :):):)
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I was just wondering about the Featurepics watermark. Some of the other people's photos have a big watermark in the middle ( a greek F ), while mine only has a small text in the bottom.
Does anyone know if there is an option to choose what kind of watermark you want?
Thanks.
Inger
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iahulbak,
I remember this was an issue long ago, when I started there. As far as I can remember, all previous images were changed automatically, but I'm not quite sure.
Email their support, they're quite fast and helpful.
Regards,
Adelaide
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OK, thanks, I'll try that.
Inger
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I have had 6 sales in the last 13 days now. Much higher than my normal average and for around $3.5 a sale.
Hope this improvement continues.
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More sales this month, FP had definitely improved for me. They are still a low earner but now I am pleased I uploaded there.
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I have more than 130 photos with them, prices between $3.50 and $0.75 depending on size and quality. Never sells anything. At SS I have just over 50 photos, selling more than 20 per day.
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Had a sale last week with a $7 commission (my images are priced from $10 to $350).
Nothing constant like Shutterstock, but much better than the "low earning" sites.
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I've had a couple of sales since 10/15
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I'm a bit confused whit their different categories of right management and everything. It would be great if they was adjusting this feature as other do. I also don't like to let the reviewer choose the category where my pictures will be in and adjusting the price. Because when a potential buyer search for a picture and find it, he can be afraid to see the price.
So I don't think the professional designers are going to search for images there. They maybe can think it's a waste of time because of the surprise they can meet whit the price setting.
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average 1 sale a month at $7-$14
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It's slow, but I have regular sales there. My micro portfolio is priced from $5 to $10. I consider uploading my macro portfolio as well, at prices ranging from $50-100. I'm with them long-term, and hope they survive.
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So I don't think the professional designers are going to search for images there. They maybe can think it's a waste of time because of the surprise they can meet whit the price setting.
That's all very true in general, but consider this. FP lets the photographer free as to price and sales model. As they acknowledged themselves, they don't do much marketing outside the web. That's why they can deliver 70% to the photog. It means you have to use FP in your personal promotion strategy coz they won't do it for you like other much more streamlined sites with only 20-40% for the photog.
I use FP as the engine for my own site (they allow hotlinking and offer some nice easy snippets to put in the code of your site), and for my Flickr promo account. Whenever you do a personal promo like that, it's best to point to your FP portfolio, (1) because you get most $, and (2) because they allow purchases-on-the-spot. Let's say, by the occasional buyer. The seasoned designer will not use FP I guess because he has a (subscription) account with the major agencies.
That's why I feel FP is not really competitive with conventional microstock. I'm in for it long-term. It's actually midstock (or at least you can use it like that) avant la LO lettre and without the hyphe.
Sales? I'm on my way to second payout. About 8 times as much as on my canceled LO account and the payout limit is 50$. Both LO and FP started around the same time, a year ago. Somehow, FP must be doing something right.
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I think professional designers should look there, as they will have photos that are not on the micro sites. I am starting to upload to sites that sell for higher prices and FP are one site on the list.
I haven't promoted my work with FP much and that is probably why I have sold more with LO but FP are catching up. They must be doing some marketing.
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Very, very slow. I have one sale a month, on average, with 488 RF photos. I'm almost halfway to my first payout now.
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Zero. However.... at this time, I only have a few pix there. I had a decent sized portfolio there for almost a year and sold nothing. I recently stripped out all the old pix and am currently repopulating with different images.
I will probably use FP as a link to my own professional site (if I ever get that finished...LOL) and link my site to it... at that time, I will populate FP with images that I don't sell on the other micros (at prices comparable to my personal site). I'll keep some of my better selling micro images on FP as well at lower comparable micro prices.
I will be doing similar with Alamy(populate it with images not selling on the micros). I'm hoping both will drive views into my personal biz site. 8)=tom
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I do not think small new sites (except SV, which can afford to run with losses for years) will survive. There is no much place left and big 3-5 ones will squeeze other ones to extinction in 3-4 years.
vphoto
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For Featurepics to survive, there's one obvious thing that we could all do: link to it whenever it's possible. For me, it's the only logical way. More or less all my photos are accepted there, I can set my own prices, I can include macrostock photos with macro prices, they accept editorial as well as RM, the pay is the best at 70%, and the site is well structured. Now, I've included the link in my e-mail signature, and anywhere on the internet where I have a user profile.
If we all do that, FP has a greater change of survival, and we will earn more money. Very simple, isn't it?
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Very, very slow. I have one sale a month, on average, with 488 RF photos. I'm almost halfway to my first payout now.
Since my previous post, I got 2 more sales at FP. Maybe it's part of the mystery why some sell better at peculiar sites and some at others. Anyways, FP is as easy to upload as LO, and for me, FP sells and LO didn't. Consider taking a Flickr account (free if less than 200 pics) and link your (watermarked!) shots to FP. I have positive indications I sold on FP by my Flickr account.
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For Featurepics to survive, there's one obvious thing that we could all do: link to it whenever it's possible. For me, it's the only logical way. More or less all my photos are accepted there, I can set my own prices, I can include macrostock photos with macro prices, they accept editorial as well as RM, the pay is the best at 70%, and the site is well structured. Now, I've included the link in my e-mail signature, and anywhere on the internet where I have a user profile.
If we all do that, FP has a greater change of survival, and we will earn more money. Very simple, isn't it?
I have put a link in my signature here. That might help a bit. There must be some buyers who are paying more for my photos on other sites and I am receiving less. If they all signed up to Featurepics we would all get a better deal.
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I think professional designers should look there, as they will have photos that are not on the micro sites. I am starting to upload to sites that sell for higher prices and FP are one site on the list.
Idem dito. FP is not really a MS site, not really RM. It's all-in-one. You mould it into what you want, without the hassle to set up your own site.
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FP is as easy to upload as LO, and for me, FP sells and LO didn't.
I find LO is easier, just one click after uploading. How do you do that with FP? I have to go through every image I have uploaded. If it is 100 images, it takes a lot longer.
LO is still ahead of FP for me, is it your extra efforts with FP that have made the difference?
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I find LO is easier, just one click after uploading. How do you do that with FP? I have to go through every image I have uploaded. If it is 100 images, it takes a lot longer.
True. That's because LO has no real options for price and license type. You just get the site's settings. Note that the FP site remembers price and license type in one session. It just takes one click then.
The MRF section on the other hand in FP is better: you can attach several MRFs to one shot. If I'm not mistaken, on LO you have to Photoshop 2 or more releases together for a group shot.
LO is still ahead of FP for me, is it your extra efforts with FP that have made the difference?
I guess so, through Flickr. I uploaded a guitar series on Flickr (with proper tagging of course, and entering it in appropriate group pools - important!) and right after that on FP. They were rejected by SS ("this is not stock") and accepted on DT only 6 days later. Yet I got a full-size (10 MP) download of it on FP the next day. The 4.8$ I got for it would have taken 16 downloads on SS.
It doesn't have to do with the FP search engine coz I just looked and I'm nowhere on the first 5 pages with "guitar acoustic".
I found Flickr to be a very sneaky tool to override the RF sites search engine preferences ;-) Don't forget that Yahoo Images features Flickr with full embedded tags, unlike Google Images. Read this interesting post (http://blog.melchersystem.com/2007/12/12/google-hates-photography/) on Paul Melcher's blog about that.
I have put a link in my signature here. That might help a bit. There must be some buyers who are paying more for my photos on other sites and I am receiving less. If they all signed up to Featurepics we would all get a better deal.
They don't have to sign up I guess, since FP allows on the spot sales from non-designers that don't know about MS. That's why I feel my FP promo and sales aren't competitive with my DT and SS sales, and I'm not cheating on SS and DT, which both are great and the real earners... till now.
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I find LO is easier, just one click after uploading. How do you do that with FP? I have to go through every image I have uploaded. If it is 100 images, it takes a lot longer.
LO is still ahead of FP for me, is it your extra efforts with FP that have made the difference?
Ah... that's called work. If all work was as easy as uploading to FP, I would be in heaven :)
But if you don't want to work, you can just specify the same price and specs for all photos. One click for each, except the first one. Can't become much easier than that.
Actually, I have more sales on LO than on FP, but since most of the sales at LO are 0.30, and those at FP are 3.50 or more.... well, you do the math 8)
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just hit payout :)
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OMG! Miracles of all miracles! I've been with FP since March 2006 (21 months) with a portfolio of about 1000 images, and FINALLY hit my first payout. Took long enough! At LO, I've made almost 5x's as much in 16 months.
I've been incredibly disappointed with FP's sales performance. While I like the concept and high royalties, it just hasn't worked out for me sales wise. Now that I've finally managed to reach a payout, it's time to consider whether I'm going to stay or pull my portfolio. It's so frustrating waiting almost two years to reach a $50 payout, so I'm thinking it's probably time to pull the plug.
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At LO, I've made almost 5x's as much in 16 months.
You never miss an opportunity to promote LO.
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At LO, I've made almost 5x's as much in 16 months.
I'm sure that being an LO reviewer has nothing to do with that. ;)
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Took long enough! At LO, I've made almost 5x's as much in 16 months.
shameless
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Oh, c'mon guys. I'm begging you...please give me a break about LO. It would be really nice to be able to talk about the site without folks casting a suspicious eye on me. I was just responding to Flemish Dreams' and the other comparison posts. He and I have had the exact opposite experiences with FP and LO for a long time, and I'm really interested in learning why my portfolio is doing so poorly at FP and okay at LO while others are having contrasting experiences. I'm not trying to bring FP down or promote LO...I'm simply trying to understand the differences and would like to participate in the discussion, if that's okay.
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I think with LO and FP you can have more sales if you put some extra effort in. With FP, this might involve linking to the images from another site and with LO, you can leave comments and use the forum to gain exposure. If a portfolio was just uploaded and left at these sites, I don't think there would be much between them.
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Oh, c'mon guys. I'm begging you...please give me a break about LO. It would be really nice to be able to talk about the site without folks casting a suspicious eye on me. I was just responding to Flemish Dreams' and the other comparison posts. He and I have had the exact opposite experiences with FP and LO for a long time, and I'm really interested in learning why my portfolio is doing so poorly at FP and okay at LO while others are having contrasting experiences. I'm not trying to bring FP down or promote LO...I'm simply trying to understand the differences and would like to participate in the discussion, if that's okay.
Here is why you do good at LO:
1. Your a reviewer there.
2. When people from MSG and Talkmicro give up on LO they exchange their earnings for credits and buy ur images, since you actually get payouts.
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I think with LO and FP you can have more sales if you put some extra effort in. With FP, this might involve linking to the images from another site and with LO, you can leave comments and use the forum to gain exposure. If a portfolio was just uploaded and left at these sites, I don't think there would be much between them.
I don't really think views matter there. You don't get many (any?) dl's from comments and exposure in the odditurium - at least it has not helped me - you get views but I think the main problem is a lack of marketing and too many sellers chasing too few buyers.
If you have your 100 dls - takes about a year for 600 or so images would be my estimate - like Karimala you can use the Sideshow and maybe that is where her sales are coming from.
There is a lot of evidence that makes claims of great success at LO questionable.
-- My portfolio isn't much (188 at LO) and has only 11 dls after a year - none in nearly three months - but a subset of the pictures there have produced nearly $100 in the last two months at 5 other sites.
-- The performance of the LO top performers is pitiful. For instance at the top of the list in April "Pasture" had 22 dls. It currently is number 5 and STILL HAS 22 dls. Several others from the top 10 of 8 months ago are still in the top 10 and have form 0 to 2 or 3 additional dls. With the top pictures at LO peforming this poorly it is hard to see how many can be making much. At least outside the Sideshow.
fred
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Still a long way off payout and sales have slowed right down.
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Sometimes I think my lack of sales at FP have been due to my overall lack of understanding about licensing models.
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I set all my pics at RF + extension ($1-$5) and I have actually sold a couple of extended licences there, though the amount varies depending on the number of units and price.
One of illustrations on an album cover (http://cdbaby.com/cd/toddchappelle2)
They don't get a lot of traffic but if you have your own website you can link your thumbnails back to them.
I find sales are very sporadic
Their ftp and IPTC reader work well they categorize for you so if you can spare the bandwidth, why not upload.
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My earnings at FP the last 30 days have been $8.03. Not much, but compared to my earnings at LO, which are $8.40 the last 12 months, it's relatively good. More than 10 times as good, to be more precise.
Comparing agencies that way doesn't bring more money in the bank, but it does show which ones to leave first, if changes are to be made. Uploading to sites that have low sales and pay less than 50% to the photographer is probably just a waste of time. For me, that places LO firmly on the "cancel list". If they can't make any progress after one year, they probably never will.
Although FP is not perfect, and their marketing must be somewhat lacking, the 70% cut and the photographer-friendly system makes me stay. A friendly, generous attitude buys them a lot of time. LO's fancy interface and big mouth don't.
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I love Featurepics. I had an inquiry about buying one of my photos listed on pBase. I said it would cost $150, and they replied that was fine, but could they use a credit card. I loaded it to Featurepics, priced it at $150, and it sold that afternoon. Smooth as silk!
http://www.featurepics.com/Authors/Images.aspx?id=445
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I love Featurepics. I had an inquiry about buying one of my photos listed on pBase. I said it would cost $150, and they replied that was fine, but could they use a credit card. I loaded it to Featurepics, priced it at $150, and it sold that afternoon. Smooth as silk!
[url]http://www.featurepics.com/Authors/Images.aspx?id=445[/url]
This is one of the great advantages of FP. I sold one photo there since my last post, but whenever someone want to buy a photo, you can do it through FP. I upload to 10 different agencies, and FP is one of only four that have never rejected anything I uploaded.
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I had months over 100 Dollars and months with no sale at all my average at FP is probably about 30-40 Dollar as a response to epixx i make the double (about 70-80 Dollars) at LO.
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I had months over 100 Dollars and months with no sale at all my average at FP is probably about 30-40 Dollar as a response to epixx i make the double (about 70-80 Dollars) at LO.
LO is a strange animal. Some apparently sell well there, some not at all. To me, it's a complete mystery. I sell almost ten times as much on Scanstockphoto as on LO. Even at Stockphotomedia, I have twice the income of LO.
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This is one of the great advantages of FP. I sold one photo there since my last post, but whenever someone want to buy a photo, you can do it through FP. I upload to 10 different agencies, and FP is one of only four that have never rejected anything I uploaded.
FP is not your average agency where you upload and then have to sit on the sidewalk waiting. If a site like that suddenly decides to add subscription and sell your 10MP shots for 30 cents, nothing you can do about it.
FP gives you load of tools to manage your own sales. You can set your prices and license types. For me, it takes off the burden to do direct sales, add a shopping cart to my site, check my email daily. Let FP handle it, and you get 70%.
And of course, you can treat FP just like any other RF site. Uploading is fast and easy, like on LO. One click can do, a few more if you need to attach a MRF. The difference between FP and LO (for me) was 8x more sales (dollarwise) at FP than at LO.
A final note: don't be shy to set your shots at 10$. A customer that finds the right shot doesn't really care about 1$ or 10$. The first shot that I set at 10$ sold a couple of hours later. Made me smile since Shutterstock rejected it as not commercial.
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LO is a strange animal. Some apparently sell well there, some not at all. To me, it's a complete mystery.
Karimala pointed that out already. It's the search engine, stupid. Me thinks that LO relies too heavily on the commenting game for ranking the search results. Bad move. I never liked their commenting game. Have no time for that.
If I want a social site with commenting, I go to my Flickr. IMHO, LO has a basically wrong strategy trying to emulate Flickr. That, and the ridiculously low percentage, the bad watermark and high payout limit made me quit there.
LO should also hire better programmers. FP never had a glitch in its FTP and site functionality, simply because they experiment on a parallel mirror site, not using users/customers as guinea pigs. IT-wise spoken, LO lacks professionality.
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For Clarification:
In my case i totally rely on EL- and Sideshow-sales without them my average would be about 20-30 Dollars.
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Karimala pointed that out already. It's the search engine, stupid. Me thinks that LO relies too heavily on the commenting game for ranking the search results. Bad move. I never liked their commenting game. Have no time for that.
I agree. I'm not opposed to do marketing work on my stock portfolios, but then it has to be direct, and targeted towards my complete portfolio, like on FP, not some children's game that may or may not have positive influence on my sales.
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For Clarification:
In my case i totally rely on EL- and Sideshow-sales without them my average would be about 20-30 Dollars.
The sideshow is a mechanism that promotes photographers that already have 100 dollars on the expense of those who haven't. At the current speed, I'll qualify in around 12 years, but since the speed is decreasing, my guess is more like 25.
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For Clarification:
In my case i totally rely on EL- and Sideshow-sales without them my average would be about 20-30 Dollars.
The sideshow is a mechanism that promotes photographers that already have 100 dollars on the expense of those who haven't. At the current speed, I'll qualify in around 12 years, but since the speed is decreasing, my guess is more like 25.
Your sideshow-pictures must be good and it must be pictures you don't have on lower priced sites otherwise you won't see a sale with your sideshow-pictures.
In my case i put my midstock-level and to some degree even pictures i have on traditional stocksites in the sideshow.
But a good third from my income at LO comes from EL-sales you don't need a sideshow for that.
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But a good third from my income at LO comes from EL-sales you don't need a sideshow for that.
Unfortunately, since I've 1 - one - sale at LO between 10 October and 25 December, generating the impressive amount of 00.30 American Dollars, your argument about EL's doesn't hit me as particularly relevant for my future there.
The reason may obviously be that my photos are crap, which is unfortunate for those friendly customers who buy them at other agencies.
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I'm sure your photos are not crap at all. Sometimes ones photostyle sell on a site better than on another that is a normal thing. I just wanted to point out that is not the sideshow alone.
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i sell a few a month sometimes and sometimes i dont sell a thing....its quite random sales....but i am happy when i get a sale cos the min i get is $1 and i get $3.50 or higher for other sales....
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LO is a strange animal. Some apparently sell well there, some not at all. To me, it's a complete mystery.
Karimala pointed that out already. It's the search engine, stupid. Me thinks that LO relies too heavily on the commenting game for ranking the search results. Bad move. I never liked their commenting game. Have no time for that.
Actually I don't think commenting has much to do with dls there - probably increases views, but that sure has not helped me - their current 25 recent downloads only have two shots with any comments at all and one of them is the sites top picture - at 54 dls!!
I have not had a dl in three months on a portfolio of 188. That is several orders of magnitude worse than any of the other 5 sites I am on with a subset of the same images. I have a lot of trouble accepting claims of acceptable results on LO. Just looking at LO's top performing images tells the story. 54 dls is the best anyone has done in over two years! The number 6 picture in the list was number 1 in May and has not gotten a single download since then.
I think the mystery is pretty clearly just a lack of customers. fred
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Featurepics tickets over quite nicely for me, I dont think it will ever be a big earner but I have had 3 payouts this year....so nothing to grumble about
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Haven't sold anything there since 11/21. By far my slowest site. November was my best month and December close behind everywhere else.
have a look at
http://www.featurepics.com/Editorial/Stock-Image-Price-Statistic.aspx
shows what prices there are the most sales at etc. Seems to me to be either price at $2 or $5 to get the most people??
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have a look at
[url]http://www.featurepics.com/Editorial/Stock-Image-Price-Statistic.aspx[/url]
shows what prices there are the most sales at etc. Seems to me to be either price at $2 or $5 to get the most people??
What it says, is that customers are mostly looking for images between $1 and $10, but that they will by the cheapest one that suits their needs. That's understandable, but if more photos were priced at $5 and above, they would probably still by them. $10 is dirt cheap, regardless of what you compare it to, and particularly if you compare it to the costs of an advertising agency.
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Joined but haven't begun uploading yet. I'm looking to try to sell RM there. For you RM sellers on FP, I am curious about one thing: when you make an RM sale, do they tell you who bought your picture and where it will be used (which magazine, website, etc)??
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Joined but haven't begun uploading yet. I'm looking to try to sell RM there. For you RM sellers on FP, I am curious about one thing: when you make an RM sale, do they tell you who bought your picture and where it will be used (which magazine, website, etc)??
Good question. I'll ask at the forums at FP.
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About a month there 32 images and my first SALE!
I have all images at $ 10.00 RF extended
The first sale today left me with 2.10 which is not too bad for just one sale. Now I will try to upload my whole small port too see if this keeps up. ;D Thanks Flemishdreams for the push to upload to them.
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I have about 300 images at featurepics (about a month there), and three sales. My price strategie is the next: the price is smaller than others microstock sites because the comission is bigger, so I obtain the same amount. I think this is fairy for buyer and for seller.
Mi prices are from 1 to 4 $
Excuse me my bad english.
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going on 4 months 2 sales all priced at 4 and 5at 4 and 5 dollars. not good!
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Repeat
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I have about 300 images at featurepics (about a month there), and three sales. My price strategie is the next: the price is smaller than others microstock sites because the comission is bigger, so I obtain the same amount. I think this is fairy for buyer and for seller.
Excuse me my bad english.
But if there is less traffic on this site why would you just settle for the same
amount? would it not benefit you to obtain a bit more to justify the lack of
sales? that image that just sold for me would take more than eight sales at
SS! IMHO less than 5.00 before rezise would simply not cover the trouble of having another place to submitt.
I just checked SS and I have had that image there since July. Earned only
.65 cents more there.
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But if there is less traffic on this site why would you just settle for the same
amount? would it not benefit you to obtain a bit more to justify the lack of
sales? that image that just sold for me would take more than eight sales at
SS! IMHO less than 5.00 before rezise would simply not cover the trouble of having another place to submitt.
I just checked SS and I have had that image there since July. Earned only
.65 cents more there.
Is very easy upload images to featurepics. I loss a litte amount of time.
I think that cheaper prices will allow a featurepics momentum.
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Update
- I had a second payout in the mean time, but of course, FP is a minor player (5% for me) compared to giants (income-wise) like SS, DT, BigStock, IS.
- Don't play with low pricing. As can be read in some threads here on the MSG, designers really don't care whether a shot is 1$ or 10$, as long as they find the right one. My minimum now for 10MP at FP is 6$, but I allow resizing. So web-size is around 1.3$. It's a bit hilarious hearing people complain about low prices at traditional microstock, - and, when given the chance, they ask the same low price at FP. In market economy terms, demand seems to be very price-elastic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elasticity_(economics)).
- Me thinks FP attracts first-time or occasional buyers. The seasoned designers are already buying at the big microstock agencies. In this respect, FP is no real competition for our portfolio at DT,SS,BigStock etc...
FP seems to be the duster that collects the long tail (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Long_Tail) of the market.
- I always said that you have to do your own marketing for your FP portfolio but that doesn't mean your own website. Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=flemishdreams&s=int) is the worlds largest photo sharing site with 2 billion photos and with an Alexa rank of 38. Unlike Google Images, images on Flickr-Yahoo are fed into the search engines with full tags. That means your portfolio on Flickr works as a huge marketing funnel into whatever agency you want. Why not chose FP (without neglecting your other agents) by preference since they give you the highest yield per sale?
- Like MostPhotos, FP almost accepts anything so you have an unique chance to upload here what you think that sells, not Atilla the Reviewer ;-). Last but not least, the upload process at FP is blazing fast and doesn't take any time.
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My January sales:
Image Size Date sold Price Net yield
I1069689 3888 x 2592 1/26/2008 $5.00 $3.50
I1454848 3250 x 2027 1/17/2008 $4.00 $2.80
I1555055 2008 x 3000 1/9/2008 $4.50 $3.15
I1146683 3888 x 2592 1/4/2008 $5.00 $3.50
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Early in the month, I put price up from $2 to $5 based on (yours?) comments on this forum and the fact that istock put price up 50% and I had BME on there (so pricing is too cheap). Anyway FP is not a bigger seller for but I still ended with BME (by $2) for fp for Jan. So going from $2 to $5 didn't do me any harm. In another month or so, I'll take it $10 and see what that does :)
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$12 (8.40) sale today. Nice start to the new month. ;)
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I am starting to lose patience with FP. The problem with doing my own marketing with them is it takes time away from my other sites. This doesn't makes sense if FP is still going to be a low seller.
If I could make $100 a month there it might be worth it but at the moment it doesn't look like that is possible. FP should be able to do more with the 30% they make from us. They still make more per sale than several sites I upload to as most of us have higher prices there. It is in their own interest to get the site moving and bring in some money.
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But if there is less traffic on this site why would you just settle for the same
amount? would it not benefit you to obtain a bit more to justify the lack of
sales? that image that just sold for me would take more than eight sales at
SS! IMHO less than 5.00 before rezise would simply not cover the trouble of having another place to submitt.
I just checked SS and I have had that image there since July. Earned only
.65 cents more there.
Is very easy upload images to featurepics. I loss a litte amount of time.
I think that cheaper prices will allow a featurepics momentum.
You should try offering money with your pictures. I think buyers would love the idea ! That would be a hit !
;D
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Pariseye, if you think so, I believe your market is macrostock.
Maybe microstock market is as ikea, low prices with great sells.
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Pariseye, if you think so, I believe your market is macrostock.
Maybe microstock market is as ikea, low prices with great sells.
Problem is: Featurepics won't get more momentum with lower prices. They get more momentum with better marketing. Designers don't care if an image costs 1 or 5 or 10 dollars. The price is so low anyway, so the difference doesn't impact the project cost in any significant way.
However, the difference has big impact on the photographers, who need money for cameras and food, and Featurepics, who need money for marketing.
There's an ocean of difference between the microstock price of 10$ and a typical macrostock price of several hundred dollars. That's where the savings are for the designers.
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Pariseye, if you think so, I believe your market is macrostock.
Maybe microstock market is as ikea, low prices with great sells.
Problem is: Featurepics won't get more momentum with lower prices. They get more momentum with better marketing. Designers don't care if an image costs 1 or 5 or 10 dollars. The price is so low anyway, so the difference doesn't impact the project cost in any significant way.
However, the difference has big impact on the photographers, who need money for cameras and food, and Featurepics, who need money for marketing.
There's an ocean of difference between the microstock price of 10$ and a typical macrostock price of several hundred dollars. That's where the savings are for the designers.
But they download images at small size (and less price). Why? I think they are price-sensitive.
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agree, and believe me the buyers do thing of prices.
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Of course they look at the price, but why ? Because they can have the same thing for less. When they buy through subscription, they take the maximum size. When they pay according to the size, they choose the size according to what they really need. It doesn't mean they won't pay 10 or 100 or 1000 $ if the picture they need is as that price and their budget can afford it. Otherwise all the macrostock agencies would be closed now. But, if you offer that 1000 $ picture for peanuts just because that's the price it would be sold in microstock, the buyer will be glad to pay peanuts. The ultimate client will still be asked for 1000 $ because he won't know the real price of the picture. Now, it's up to you to decide if you are willing to sell for less than nothing (and leave the middle user grab the margin) or try to raise the level. I don't think that a few dollars or ten of dollars in Featurepics is such an obstacle for 90% of the needs (publication, calendar, mug, posters...) and if it is, there is always the resizing option... or microstock.
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Is not the same thing. A 1500x1000 pixels image is not equal to a 3000x2000 px one. They save less than 1 $ when they download small images, but they do it. That´s means they are price-sensitive.
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Is not the same thing. A 1500x1000 pixels image is not equal to a 3000x2000 px one. They save less than 1 $ when they download small images, but they do it. That´s means they are price-sensitive.
Idon't know how price sensitive they really are considering that the image
they bought for 3.00 could had been aquired for much less somewhere else, like SS. I think is like Pariseye suggest is the size they really need. If I had not placed the image to be resized would they have bought for 10.00?
I believe they would have. I just gave them more options and still earned from the sale. A similar image at SV sold for like .30 before I changed most of my images there to non subscription. I believe because of my more narrow portfolio (subjects) I need an agency like Featurepics to really see
a increase in earnings not just sales. Once again I repeat myself lowering the prices too much just makes it harder to earn in a site like FP. SS is great
because of volume but at .30 cents per week at FP it just becomes more work with less returns. Yes they are easy to upload to but why not take advantage of a situation where you have control of pricing?
Just my opinion,
Regards Jorge
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I now have 93 approved images at FP without a sale.
I previously had my pricing set a $6.00 RF+Extension allowing resizing and have now lowered to $4.00 with resizing in order to try and prime the pump on this site for me ...
I have also put some snippets on a blog of mine and we'll see if that drives any traffic there.
I really like this site so I hope to make some sales soon :)
Mark
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You can make a simple experiment in order to optimize your portfolio. You can prize a part of it at low and other part at high, and to observe the results.
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I spent a good part of last year pricing all over the place. Gross didn't vary much. Jan 1, I have settled on a minimum of $6 with no resizing. Good sellers are priced higher, some significantly so. January was my BME there, but still not enough sales to track any patterns.
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I set my price litle lower than fotolia but give me same ammount or even higher of commission.
Sales not much but better than 123rf for me.
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Of course they look at the price, but why ? Because they can have the same thing for less. When they buy through subscription, they take the maximum size. When they pay according to the size, they choose the size according to what they really need. It doesn't mean they won't pay 10 or 100 or 1000 $ if the picture they need is as that price and their budget can afford it. Otherwise all the macrostock agencies would be closed now. But, if you offer that 1000 $ picture for peanuts just because that's the price it would be sold in microstock, the buyer will be glad to pay peanuts. The ultimate client will still be asked for 1000 $ because he won't know the real price of the picture. Now, it's up to you to decide if you are willing to sell for less than nothing (and leave the middle user grab the margin) or try to raise the level. I don't think that a few dollars or ten of dollars in Featurepics is such an obstacle for 90% of the needs (publication, calendar, mug, posters...) and if it is, there is always the resizing option... or microstock.
You are right. As a designer, I buy much more photos now, than I did before microstock was available. But as long as the price is less than $20, I can't really be bothered to look for a better photo or a lower price all over the net. My time costs money as well.
When I uploaded to SV, I put some photos at $25 that are available at other micro agencies. I had my first sale of one of those yesterday. Could the buyer have saved a couple of bucks, looking for it elsewhere? Yes, he could. Did he? No, he didn't, because he apparently found the image that he needed, for a price that he thought was reasonable.
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I would also presume that designers are courted to and are members at certain sites that appeal to them for whatever differentiating reasons are important to them. Every site is trying to carve out its own niche for both photographers AND designers / buyers.
I have often tried finding my own pictures (and I know what I'm looking for ...) through the various search engines and it can be difficult to sort through hundreds if not thousands of similar images to find exactly what you are looking for on the larger sites. Once you find it (no matter what site your on ...) what are the odds that your going to search again? You might if you have multiple accounts. I imagine you would if you have a subscription account somewhere ... but what if you don't?
Oh ... by the way ... how many images are on other sites that have never been approved by the likes of IS or Shutterstock ?
All of these are reasons as to why it makes sense to be on Featurepics for the long term ...
Mark
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Oh ... by the way ... how many images are on other sites that have never been approved by the likes of IS or Shutterstock ?
This is a very important point: if a buyer finds a photo at FP that hasn't been approved anywhere else, and if that is the exact photo that he needs, he'll pay more. The fact that a photo has been rejected be SS and IS doesn't mean that it's any point selling it cheaper at FP.
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I continue to upload to FP and now have a total of 141 images online there. All are now set to $11.00 RF+Extension and allowing resizing.
I had my first sale there this month :)
Mark
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3 illustrations sold today. FP is my 3rd best site this month! ;D
Regards,
Adelaide
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Four months, still nothing. I'm on pace for my first $300 month in microstock. If a company cannot deliver me a single sale in 4 months, they are no longer worth my time. Sorry FP, you seem like nice people. But you are just wasting my time and energy at this point.
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Same as you Dan. The site design and options are great but if I'm going to market a site I'll create my own and keep 100%. I have limited available time and I can't justify spending any time where there is little potential for earnings.
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Absolutely Naz. What I will say is I am okay with giving up 30% of the profit to a company if they will be handling the sales, credit card information, storage, backbone, etc. That is more than fair.
I just don't have time to start and maintain my own site, designed around FP. I honestly doubt the profits would cover the cost of the domain name. And not least of all, my work is simply not advanced enough to justify my own website and domain name. Maybe some day, but definitely not now.
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I'm waiting for one more sale at FP, then I'll make the payout and I can delete my portfolio there.
I make more in one day on other individual sites than I've made at Featurepics in 1 1/2 years !!
I once saw someone quote the "if you build it they will come" line, I truly believe that this is Featurepics whole marketing strategy :D
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The sales are now so few and far apart that I have stopped uploading for the moment.
Hard to keep interest!
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I get 1 sale a month and have stopped uploading. It is a shame but the future doesn't look good if they have such low sales. They make Lucky Oliver look good at the moment.
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I've been at FP for a few months and have sold approximately 6 photos there. I price my RF portfolio's cap price at $5 & $10. I also have this site linked to my personal site because if it gets alot of customers I can get the most potential earnings here!
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sold two in march nothing so far in april
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Just out of interest does anybody know how much it would cost to have a server that could host a few thousand images, and to run a website like Featurepics.
Storage costs nothing these days, so I'm wondering, Featurepics seems to do nothing other than run the website, it relys on all the contributors marketing their own work and then on the rare occasion somebody accidentally stumbles upon the site and buys something they take a 30% cut.
Could be an easy little set up to run from my kitchen cupboard :D
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Maybe somehow I found a niche in FP customers, because I sold one today and now they are number 2 for me this month (also because other sites, except StockXpert, are slower than March for me).
But I've reached my second payout in my BME there. :)
Regards,
Adelaide
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Thought I'd share my first sale at Featurepics.
I've been submitting to them since January with high hopes that I might get an occasional sale. Well, I couldn't believe it when I saw a download today - one of my funky photoshop abstracts. I set all my abstracts at $10 with resizing and it sold at the second smallest size giving me a profit of $2.92.
There is hope.
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"Currently have all priced at $10.00 RF+Extension with resizing enabled. I am still awaiting a 2nd sale there ... :-\"
Mark
05/30/2008
Now all priced down to $5.00 RF+Extension with resizing enabled to try and prime this dry pump of a stock site ...
Mark
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Just for the record i had sale for 128,- Dollar net last month (small business extension) of a picture uploaded more than year ago a very simple picture rejected by all other micros i am submitting. FP is a low earner for sure but i really don't understand why people want to delete their portfolio there if your not satisfied with the selling price you can adjust it anytime (this would be the only reason for me to delete a portfolio for example Canstock with its extremely subscription sales without a possibility to option out)
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Oh ... by the way ... how many images are on other sites that have never been approved by the likes of IS or Shutterstock ?
This is a very important point: if a buyer finds a photo at FP that hasn't been approved anywhere else, and if that is the exact photo that he needs, he'll pay more. The fact that a photo has been rejected be SS and IS doesn't mean that it's any point selling it cheaper at FP.
you could argue that if it is rejected at ss and is it is worth more as it less available :)
(my 4 highest earning images have all been rejected at is (and 2 of them at ss) for "not stock", they have then gone and had multiple sales in the macrostock world :)
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I heard that suwaneeredhead just got an EL from Featurepics paying her around $13.00 or so ... The pricing must be levered to whatever the set price for the image is ...
Mark
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i like FP because i can set my own price, also the support ppl respond to you with good advice and quick. something BigStock is also fantastic for.
i like FP and BigStock because they seem to show they want your business and want to help you sell.
but also, to sell everything $1-$3 , i don't think that is good strategy.
you are showing the customer you need to give the photos away, so obviously the client will recognize you as "cheap or desperate"
and they will stop looking at the photos the moment they see your name.
just my impression.
if you notice, the top sellers don't give their photos away.
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sorry, posted twice ;D
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I have my first sold, 9$
I like this kind of stock, I prefer to stablish my own price, If everybody goes agree we could sold higher, I mean, we should sell at least at 30$ if a photo is actually a good shot with commercial sense. But we don't live in my oniric world ::)
kind regards
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I had my second sale there a few days ago too : 7,82 $ (5,47 for me) for a view of the Père Lachaise (a french cemetery). I had just upgraded my prices a few days before to 39$ (from 9.99) in order to be on level with Mostphotos where I have the same portfolio (but no sale) and this concern the smallest size available.
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hardly
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Yes, I have had some money already on my MB account. There you can get highest RPI if you look at statistics and try to follow price trend.
The main point is that I have mainly 6mpix (downsized 12mpix at 1/2). I made all photos at $5 full resolution and allowed resize option. So, under that prices image which is web size is selling for approximately something below $2.
Illustrations are something different and I've used StockXpert prices as pointer... Sales are there too.
But, I can't understand contributors who sells vectors for peannuts and they will have to make numerous sales to get close to few images monthly I sell and to match my earnings.
Also, FP is not volume site and under that rule it is quite ineffective to sell for less than $5+ simple vectors and $5 6mpix photos...
I saw people are offering their vectors for $1 - $3 which is quite kick in their own stomack due to low volume of sales there.
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I just had my first sale there. I recently repriced all my photos to $5 with resizing allowed. Today I sold an image that I just uploaded a few hours ago.
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got my first 3 sale this month, $10.00 price set with resize option enable.
Total Earnings: $14.82 :)
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I've had one payout there.
Currently dead as a dodo. All mine are priced at $4.99 with re-sizing options.
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Short of first payout - have stopped uploading a long time ago.
Dont know if I will ever get it.
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Just finished uploading 2230+ images to them and sold 8 images while doing it.
Priced at 5.00 with resize option.
-Larry
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I do sell quite regulary but not very much
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I haven't sold anything at FP for months now. The only agencies where I'm getting decent sales are SS and DD. IS has also come to an almost full stop for me. I'm seriously considering going exclusive with DT. The only thing stopping me at this stage is the fact that I'm making more money with SS, but to do that I have to keep on uploading and I fear I may just run out of new photos to upload some day.
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Rather quiet the last months, but so have a few of the other agencies. I keep on uploading. It's easy, and whenever I get a sale, it generates a healthy profit.
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Only one sale this month, but I hope things will pick up again next year.
Regards,
Adelaide
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Only one sale this month, but I hope things will pick up again next year.
Regards,
Adelaide
Personally Adelaide, I don't think 1 sale per month is enough and I'm sure you are thinking the same.
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Takestock,
I've had months with 3-4 dlds, and given their commission it ends not so bad (this single sale earned me more than 4 in CS).
I have earned in FP more than in 123RF, not to mention CS, CanStockPhoto, Scan, etc. The past two months have been quite slow, but the staff is very active and responsive, so I do hope things will improve next year.
Regards,
Adelaide
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I don't know about FP anymore, I really like the site and the people running it, but with 300+ photos there, I've only sold 1 pic back in October then dead as a door nail, I think I'm going to give them a few more months and if things don't do better I'm just going to stop uploading, is beginning not to be worth the effort.
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I average roughly 1% of my sales there (including this month). nothing spectacular but it is a regular payout and it is 1% I didnt have for very little work (I find them one of the easiest to upload to). I played with pricing last year. had been $2 early on, put it up to $5 and it increased my overall $ then went to $9.99 and my sales disapeared. so now I am $5 with no resize and am happy :)
Phil
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I average roughly 1% of my sales there (including this month). nothing spectacular but it is a regular payout and it is 1% I didnt have for very little work (I find them one of the easiest to upload to). I played with pricing last year. had been $2 early on, put it up to $5 and it increased my overall $ then went to $9.99 and my sales disapeared. so now I am $5 with no resize and am happy
Phil
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Just tried to edit published images... As far as I can see, the system does not work?
...Anyone else having problems editing price and resize obtions?
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Elena did mention that the site was going to stop the option of editing prices for January, don't know when they'll put it back up again...I need to do some price editing myself.
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Two payouts till now, one dollar next to payout.
My shots are 6-9$ resizable.
Used to have 3 sales per month but now dead since Nov 17.
Dead easy to upload, I got 100x more at FP than at YAY.
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I have my shots there at $10.00 like most other sites charge, but I guess that could be the reason for not having anymore sales :-\
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Different angle, I only uploaded Editorial. No sales in a year at standard publication rates for small magazines, $20.
Nice site, nice people running it. When I deleted some dead wood, the pictures vanished very quickly. I can't say anything is disappointing there except no sales. My photos are in the wrong type, in the wrong place and don't have potential customers using FP to look for them. Time to changethe content and pricing and remove all the Ed. images.
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I have two accounts in FP, one for microstock images, another for macrostock (some RM). The microstock one varies a lot, there were months with nice sales, even EL (after a request Elena forwarded me of an illustration that the buyer wanted in other colors), past two months however just one each. Low sales in numbers are compensated by the high commission. The macrostock is tougher to sell, but I intend to build galleries that I can offer either in my home page or even to potential buyers (these are basically my travel photos).
Helpful staff, no complaints. I think it's a great place to use if you want to market images yourself without the costs and complexities of making a business site.
Regards,
Adelaide
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haven't had a sale since 9/17/08
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madelaide, how are your RM images selling?...I had like 70 pics as RM there and then was told that they did not had any market or immediate buyer for that type of license, so I had to turn them into RFs.
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I had two RM sales over 1 year ago. I understand they are not recommending RM due to low demand from their customer base. Also you can not set new images as RM, but they can change them to RM if you want. I guess however this is not a good choice if you plan to rely only on their own customers.
Regards,
Adelaide
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They sell... And it is the same as hundreds of sales on other agencies... The point here is they are FASTER than CRESTOCK which I've dumped for-good) or CANSTOCKPHOTO together with FOTOSEARCH and MOSTPHOTOS are now...
Considering that I looked into statistic there I have concluded that PHOTOS should be priced from $5 up to $15 depending on their quality at first as well on their size... $5 for 5-7mpix up to $15 for 24-36mpix... With resizing option ON.
Some RF images which are NOT MICROSTOCK can be priced even from $20 up to $100 and that should make you profit. The points are that any lowering the prices will bring low income both for contributors as well for agency and WILL NOT BRING MORE TRAFFIC.
This agency has potential to become a great player if contributors get serious and admit that not the same image sold on other microstock sites for just few bucks (OD on SS is $5) should be priced higher on Featurepics. The main points are that FP crew is aware of that and introducing some new 'red lines' about some rules.
I expect that soon commission to authors downs to 60% because of 30% is NOT ENOUGH for FP to operate the way and in quality it should. That lowering commisions will bring more rejections and much more quality on site as well as advertising and some unique features with more serious buyers....
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I agree with you Milinz, I think that FP will be a big player among the microstock agencies soon, I've have seen some very good traffic on the site this past couple of weeks, as well as some repeated sales which is very good news, I've being uploading to them for a while now and have close to 400 images posted and many more to come, I love the site as well as the administration, and you're right the site has big potential. It was dead there for a while but it seems like is comming back strong.
Best regards.
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One sale today and it's my best performer so far in March. It's a nice thing, even if it doesn't last the whole month. ;D
Regards,
Adelaide
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FeaturePics is dead. It has deceased. It is a late site. It is no more. It went to meet its Maker. It has ceased to be. I can still see many people putting time=energy=money in its forum (I lost my password for the forum). Now, post mortem, it's trying subscription. Well, whatever...
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FeaturePics is dead. It has deceased. It is a late site. It is no more. It went to meet its Maker. It has ceased to be. I can still see many people putting time=energy=money in its forum (I lost my password for the forum). Now, post mortem, it's trying subscription. Well, whatever...
Nah... It is just following some market rules due to that it showed up that many buyers didn't liked so much originality and 'volume' naming instead of 'subscription'...
It is transformation which will bring results...
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Just to follow up. Had a full-size non-subscription sale yesterday which kicked me way over payout limit again. First sale in 3 months.The odd thing is that the shot was refused by both DT and SS for LCV.
(http://www.featurepics.com/FI/Thumb300/20090219/e2acDecomposing-Tree-Rain-Forest-1083814.jpg)
Decomposing tree in tropical rain forest.
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"It has joined the choir immortal....this, is an ex-site"
Nah, I'm still selling there. I have it linked to my web site portfolio. When people ask where they can buy my photos, I point them there. That is, until SmugMug sets up their own version of stock selling capabilities.
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"It has joined the choir immortal....this, is an ex-site"
;D Yeah right. Rub it in :P. I went down from 3 per month to 3 per semester if this goes on. I'm using them too to link to my website and I'm using their HTML snippets to generate a port view. The odd thing is that this shot was just 1-2 weeks old and referenced nowhere.
I'm waiting for SmugmugPro too... I'm on their mailing list but didn't see anything yet. Twitter says May...
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Just to follow up. Had a full-size non-subscription sale yesterday which kicked me way over payout limit again. First sale in 3 months.The odd thing is that the shot was refused by both DT and SS for LCV.
([url]http://www.featurepics.com/FI/Thumb300/20090219/e2acDecomposing-Tree-Rain-Forest-1083814.jpg[/url])
Decomposing tree in tropical rain forest.
Yep... LCV is that someone thinks some image will not sell... Which is wrong thing to do... If image is technically correct and there are no similar images it is ok to be added to image base no matter what agency it is except if it is basically NO-NO image.
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I rarely sell anything on there, but I like them - so I keep uploading and will keep uploading. Their upload process is easy - so that helps too :)
Snaprender
http://snaprender.blogspot.com/ (http://snaprender.blogspot.com/)
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I've had a few very slow months there, but yesterday, out of the blue, came a sale that earned me a months income compared to some other agencies. That's good enough for me :)
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Guess I should lower all orices! After one year I have 2 sales - one brought me a $10 commission, and the other brought me $1.45. I only have 140 images up there.
I'll stick it out a little longer.
Roadrunner
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i have hit one payout, but sales are few and far between. rejections are getting really lame.
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I've had a few very slow months there, but yesterday, out of the blue, came a sale that earned me a months income compared to some other agencies. That's good enough for me :)
Same here, last month I had a good sale, and just this morning another one, that pay me at least a couple of weeks worth of DLs on the big sites...great job FeaturePics, keep it up!!!
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Guess I should lower all orices! After one year I have 2 sales - one brought me a $10 commission, and the other brought me $1.45. I only have 140 images up there.
I'll stick it out a little longer.
Roadrunner
Why lower the prices? If customers find what they want, they are not going to look elsewhere to save a couple of dollars. Their time costs money too, and the chances that they find a better price elsewhere are very slim indeed. All my images at FP are priced at $7 and higher (Microstock images at $7 to 15 and macrostock RF at $50 to 100). Yesterday, I sold an image that was priced at $100. It sold at reduced resolution, so the price was just $52.75, but my cut is still $36.93 ;D
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Well done epixx, congratulations!!! ;D
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Just a little report:
While FP has been a reliable, but very slow seller for me, this year has changed everything. I get very regular sales there now, and accumulated commissions so far this year adds up to 3% of my totals, which brings them up to 6th spot behind SS, DT, IS, FT and BS but ahead of StockXpert and 123RF.
Photos that I sell at FP are often either at the bottom of the pile at other agencies or rejected all together. That proves to me that there is a need for agencies that are a bit different, and that price is hardly an important factor as long as we are talking micro to medium priced stock. Most of my photos are priced at $10 or more at FP.
Good, isn't it?
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It would be good if they sold more but I still only sell one a month there. I made more with StockXpert just last month than I have made with FP in over 2 years.
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It would be good if they sold more but I still only sell one a month there. I made more with StockXpert just last month than I have made with FP in over 2 years.
Heck...I've made more at Crestock with 40 % less photos than I did at FP in the same amount of time! That's pretty bad.
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Just wait until end of this year...
I hear that some BIG CHANGES are knocking at Featurepics doors... It is CODING phase already... So, you'll all be positively surprised with results!
My advice: UPLOAD there as much as you can!
BTW, FP is very good for my sales ;-)
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I only had my second sale there last week. It was a part of the volume download program they introduced. I hope to see more sales there in future as I really like the site otherwise.
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1 DL in every 3 months :-)
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They're doing good!...2 DLS last month, and just got another one just now, 6 DLS since the biginning of the year and great commissions.
Keep them coming FP ;D ;D ;D
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I have sales every now and again on there. Regardless of the number of sales, I really like the site. The upload is super easy and the people are friendly (70% royalty doesnt hurt also ;D).
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I just got my first sale today with a volume dl... For me this is really great since I have a portfolio there of less than 30 and I've only been on for about a week...
:D
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I just got my first sale today with a volume dl... For me this is really great since I have a portfolio there of less than 30 and I've only been on for about a week...
:D
Congrats!
Upload more ;-)
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I've got my first sale two weeks ago for $1,25 ($0,88 for me). :)
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Wow Congrats everyone...wish I could do that well...never sold any thing there. I don't know why, unless the buyers are going to one of the other sites to download the same image. All I got on there are the same as everywhere else.
You reckin thats the reason. I guess I ought to upload some that I won't put on the micro sites. They are just sitting on my hard drive collecting space. Do you guys sell what's not on the other sites or is it your micro stock??
Any advice would be appreciated.
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Wow Congrats everyone...wish I could do that well...never sold any thing there. I don't know why, unless the buyers are going to one of the other sites to download the same image. All I got on there are the same as everywhere else.
You reckin thats the reason. I guess I ought to upload some that I won't put on the micro sites. They are just sitting on my hard drive collecting space. Do you guys sell what's not on the other sites or is it your micro stock??
Any advice would be appreciated.
I know there are sales and they will go up soon... So, upload ;-)
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Hardly any sales recently. Its to the point where it almost isn't worth my time and bandwidth to upload photos there, despite a very easy and fast process to get photos onto their site.
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Just had another payout, the second one this year. That makes it worth it, doesn't it?
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this month has been terrible for me, usually I get regular payouts :( oh well ebbs and flows
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I had three sales this weekend, but all were not yet downloaded and I have to wait if the buyer won't claim the money back.
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I'm glad that someone's doing well there :) ...I haven't had a sale in months. :(
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Second sale this year today.
Slow site but i like it.
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I see there haven't been any updates to this thread since the pricing changes at FP. Who is still getting sales there with the new pricing levels ?
I just had a sale of an image at FP. It is one that had previously sold at much higher pricing the first time. This time I got a $2.50 commission :'(
-Mark
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I haven't had a sale since 7/30/09. :-\
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I sold a few since the changes but with the lower prices and commissions, it is disappointing.
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I finally quit uploading there. Sales have dwindled and the price per image has dropped even further with their new pricing scheme. When they accepted everything and let you set your own prices on RF, it had enough extra value to offset poor sales, but when average sales are at 10% of my BME and even that number was 4% of my gross for that month in micro, it's just not worth the time.
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Only one sale after the changes in my microstock account. And in my macro account, they removed many images from view because they were RM and I should justify that. :-\
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they removed many images from view because they were RM and I should justify that.
madelaide, can you explain that? I'm not sure what you mean. You mean you uploaded RM files and now you have to prove that they are not appearing anywhere else as RF?
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cclapper,
I think their main concern is people saying their images are not in micros while they are. This is what Elena wrote me:
We are a small agency and it takes too much time to find out that images listed as RM on our site are on FT For $0.14 under RF.
Today I deleted almost 400 such images.
The same story with mid-stock images. 95% of images submitted as mid-stock are on DS.
(I suppose DS is Dreamstime).
I told her images in my macrostock account (I have two FP accounts) are not in micros, but that indeed some listed as RM in FP are in Shutterpoint as RF (their only option). As I said before, I do that specifically in SP because they don't have RM. Images I set as RM at FP are the same RM I have at Alamy and MyLoupe. In the cases I sold an image as RM in one of the sites (including FP) or directly to a buyer, I removed from SP (or rather set a price of US$999 only to keep the image in my portfolio there, but if those few images were an issue, I would delete them from SP). I would also do the opposite (if an image sells at SP, delete images from other sites if it's listed as RM, reupload as RF), but it hasn't happened yet.
But she also said:
We had a problem with an RM image that had been found by our client as RF on another site. That is why we are “cleaning” RM images.
I don't think this would be a problem to a buyer unless he purchased the image as RM maybe paying more than the image is listed elsewhere as RF, even if not micros. I have seen the same images selling at Alamy as RM and RF and Alamy doesn't bother (I reported this) because they come from different sources (partner agencies).
One point however that I observed recently is that setting a basic price for RM at FP doesn't mean much. It seems to be used to calculate final price only in some situations (like commercial use). For magazines, however, the quote they give is the same regardless of the base price, what came as a surprise to me, especially because these editorial prices are VERY low for RM images (such as a magazine cover, mere US$90).
I had plans to use FP to market my images, using their collections and HTML tools to embed in my site or send to a prospective buyer. I think that selling through a site give a certain "respectability" that a direct sale sometimes may not (due to all the legal stuff in the license terms, for instance). Given their move, prices and apparent irreductible position about this RM conflict, this probably will not happen. I will probably remove my RM images from there and build my own gallery in my own website and negotiate directly like I've been doing on occasions. It's really a pity, because I supported FP a lot.
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I just had a sale there, 15$, yield 7.5$. It was an image that never sold elsewhere. Apparently FP is digging into market holes that no one did before. FP is still in intensive care but Elena, though very friendly, isn't a sissie that will give up easily. Given that, and the fast and easy upload, I'll stay there for a while. In total, FP made me much more than Zymm.
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cclapper,
I think their main concern is people saying their images are not in micros while they are. This is what Elena wrote me:
We are a small agency and it takes too much time to find out that images listed as RM on our site are on FT For $0.14 under RF.
Today I deleted almost 400 such images.
The same story with mid-stock images. 95% of images submitted as mid-stock are on DS.
(I suppose DS is Dreamstime).
I told her images in my macrostock account (I have two FP accounts) are not in micros, but that indeed some listed as RM in FP are in Shutterpoint as RF (their only option). As I said before, I do that specifically in SP because they don't have RM. Images I set as RM at FP are the same RM I have at Alamy and MyLoupe. In the cases I sold an image as RM in one of the sites (including FP) or directly to a buyer, I removed from SP (or rather set a price of US$999 only to keep the image in my portfolio there, but if those few images were an issue, I would delete them from SP). I would also do the opposite (if an image sells at SP, delete images from other sites if it's listed as RM, reupload as RF), but it hasn't happened yet.
But she also said:
We had a problem with an RM image that had been found by our client as RF on another site. That is why we are “cleaning” RM images.
I don't think this would be a problem to a buyer unless he purchased the image as RM maybe paying more than the image is listed elsewhere as RF, even if not micros. I have seen the same images selling at Alamy as RM and RF and Alamy doesn't bother (I reported this) because they come from different sources (partner agencies).
One point however that I observed recently is that setting a basic price for RM at FP doesn't mean much. It seems to be used to calculate final price only in some situations (like commercial use). For magazines, however, the quote they give is the same regardless of the base price, what came as a surprise to me, especially because these editorial prices are VERY low for RM images (such as a magazine cover, mere US$90).
I had plans to use FP to market my images, using their collections and HTML tools to embed in my site or send to a prospective buyer. I think that selling through a site give a certain "respectability" that a direct sale sometimes may not (due to all the legal stuff in the license terms, for instance). Given their move, prices and apparent irreductible position about this RM conflict, this probably will not happen. I will probably remove my RM images from there and build my own gallery in my own website and negotiate directly like I've been doing on occasions. It's really a pity, because I supported FP a lot.
Dear Madelaide,
It is off limits to sell image on one place as RM/L and on other place as RF. It is moral matter as well playing unfair from your side. And, any big buyer who wants RM won't be happy to see the same image listed somewhere as RF. In the matter of fact and for your own reputation in stock industry you should remove all that images you listed as RM. If you don't do that you'll have less and less sales for sure on RM agencies.
Added:
Sorry for mistake in RF/RM.
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cclapper,
I think their main concern is people saying their images are not in micros while they are. This is what Elena wrote me:
We are a small agency and it takes too much time to find out that images listed as RM on our site are on FT For $0.14 under RF.
Today I deleted almost 400 such images.
The same story with mid-stock images. 95% of images submitted as mid-stock are on DS.
(I suppose DS is Dreamstime).
I told her images in my macrostock account (I have two FP accounts) are not in micros, but that indeed some listed as RM in FP are in Shutterpoint as RF (their only option). As I said before, I do that specifically in SP because they don't have RM. Images I set as RM at FP are the same RM I have at Alamy and MyLoupe. In the cases I sold an image as RM in one of the sites (including FP) or directly to a buyer, I removed from SP (or rather set a price of US$999 only to keep the image in my portfolio there, but if those few images were an issue, I would delete them from SP). I would also do the opposite (if an image sells at SP, delete images from other sites if it's listed as RM, reupload as RF), but it hasn't happened yet.
But she also said:
We had a problem with an RM image that had been found by our client as RF on another site. That is why we are “cleaning” RM images.
I don't think this would be a problem to a buyer unless he purchased the image as RM maybe paying more than the image is listed elsewhere as RF, even if not micros. I have seen the same images selling at Alamy as RM and RF and Alamy doesn't bother (I reported this) because they come from different sources (partner agencies).
One point however that I observed recently is that setting a basic price for RM at FP doesn't mean much. It seems to be used to calculate final price only in some situations (like commercial use). For magazines, however, the quote they give is the same regardless of the base price, what came as a surprise to me, especially because these editorial prices are VERY low for RM images (such as a magazine cover, mere US$90).
I had plans to use FP to market my images, using their collections and HTML tools to embed in my site or send to a prospective buyer. I think that selling through a site give a certain "respectability" that a direct sale sometimes may not (due to all the legal stuff in the license terms, for instance). Given their move, prices and apparent irreductible position about this RM conflict, this probably will not happen. I will probably remove my RM images from there and build my own gallery in my own website and negotiate directly like I've been doing on occasions. It's really a pity, because I supported FP a lot.
Dear Madelaide,
It is off limits to sell image on one place as RF and on other place as RF. It is moral matter as well playing unfair from your side. And, any big buyer who wants RM won't be happy to see the same image listed somewhere as RF. In the matter of fact and for your own reputation in stock industry you should remove all that images you listed as RM. If you don't do that you'll have less and less sales for sure on RM agencies.
Did you mean RF and RM ??
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It is off limits to sell image on one place as RF and on other place as RF. It is moral matter as well playing unfair from your side. And, any big buyer who wants RM won't be happy to see the same image listed somewhere as RF. In the matter of fact and for your own reputation in stock industry you should remove all that images you listed as RM. If you don't do that you'll have less and less sales for sure on RM agencies.
I personally don't see a problem until you sell it one style or the other, especially if prices are compatible. Remember I am not talking about microstock RF vs macrostock RM. I totally separate my micro and macro portfolios.
Even Alamy - to my surprise - allows the same image showing with the two licenses. I believe they don't allow the same person uploading twice with them directly, but as I said they are ok about images I showed them in this situation just because they come from two different sources. I am talking about the exact same images, not similars from the same series.
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It is off limits to sell image on one place as RF and on other place as RF. It is moral matter as well playing unfair from your side. And, any big buyer who wants RM won't be happy to see the same image listed somewhere as RF. In the matter of fact and for your own reputation in stock industry you should remove all that images you listed as RM. If you don't do that you'll have less and less sales for sure on RM agencies.
I personally don't see a problem until you sell it one style or the other, especially if prices are compatible. Remember I am not talking about microstock RF vs macrostock RM. I totally separate my micro and macro portfolios.
Even Alamy - to my surprise - allows the same image showing with the two licenses. I believe they don't allow the same person uploading twice with them directly, but as I said they are ok about images I showed them in this situation just because they come from two different sources. I am talking about the exact same images, not similars from the same series.
No They Do Not approve of this!
http://www.alamy.com/licensing.asp (http://www.alamy.com/licensing.asp)
Tips and legal considerations
To ensure customer confidence in your images and avoid potential legal problems:
* you cannot change the licence type for an image once it is set.
* you must not submit the same or similar images as different licence types.
* we may determine the licence type automatically from your answers to some of the annotation questions.
* to avoid legal issues you must never set a licence as RF (but only as L with restrictions set for “Editorial use only”), if it:
o contains people or domestic buildings without releases.
o solely features a logo, trademark or copyrighted building - this is a copyright or trademark infringement. Note, images where the logo, trademark or copyrighted building is incidental (e.g. it’s visible but isn’t the central focus) can be submitted as Royalty Free.
o Subjects which should never be Royalty Free
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While moral questions are to be really interesting to see as on istock for example where they have tons of handshakes and still disabling some images with not visible evidence of 'abusive inspiration' (I know some people that got some images disabled without such evidence), this matter with RF/RM images is very serious.
RM buyers don't need RF and you must keep that on your mind. Also it is your reputation at stake if you do such thing as listing the same image as RF on one place and RM on other place... If they (buyers or agents) find that you are doing that - you're history!
Any image you decide to be RM must stay that way. Also it is the same for your RF images.
If you change your mind here and there then you aren't serious author and you don't have moral right to upload RM. That is why Photographersdirect don't allow any RF micro author to be their member - at least they have such rules to minimize consequences on their own reputation.
Alamy has rules as said before this post. There is no way that you can sitting on two chairs in the same time!
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Even Alamy - to my surprise - allows the same image showing with the two licenses. I believe they don't allow the same person uploading twice with them directly, but as I said they are ok about images I showed them in this situation just because they come from two different sources. I am talking about the exact same images, not similars from the same series.
No They Do Not approve of this!
[url]http://www.alamy.com/licensing.asp[/url] ([url]http://www.alamy.com/licensing.asp[/url])
the one at left is RM (http://www.alamy.com/image-details-popup.asp?imageid={31F59A4E-ACCF-4AE1-83D5-A1307ADFB789}&orgin=sr&pv=1&n=129&pn=1&s=1&p=37668&orientation=0&searchtype=0&stamp=2&srch=qt%3Dcape%2Bseal%26lic%3D7%26ipn%3D1%26apn%3D1%26cpn%3D1%26cdpn%3D1%26mr%3D0%26pr%3D0%26ot%3D0%26nu%3D%26archive%3D1%26size%3D0xFF%26creative%3D%26hc%3D%26imgt%3D0%26dtfr%3D%26dtto%3D%26selectdate%3D1%26remember%3D0%26CreativeOn%3D1%26tab%3D%26cdsrt%3D0%26pn%3D1%26st%3D0%26a%3D-1%26cid%3D%26s1%3D0%26s3%3D0%26s5%3D0%26s7%3D0%26cn%3D%26cdid%3D%26cdn%3D), originally from Imagebroker and appears twice in fact; the one at right is RF (http://www.alamy.com/image-details-popup.asp?imageid={6834CE4B-3C79-49D7-B844-0BAAF2F9122D}&orgin=sr&pv=1&n=121&pn=1&s=1&p=16564&orientation=0&searchtype=0&stamp=2&srch=qt%3Dcape%2Bseal%26lic%3D7%26ipn%3D1%26apn%3D1%26cpn%3D1%26cdpn%3D1%26mr%3D0%26pr%3D0%26ot%3D0%26nu%3D%26archive%3D1%26size%3D0xFF%26creative%3D%26hc%3D%26imgt%3D0%26dtfr%3D%26dtto%3D%26selectdate%3D1%26remember%3D0%26CreativeOn%3D1%26tab%3D%26cdsrt%3D0%26pn%3D1%26st%3D0%26a%3D-1%26cid%3D%26s1%3D0%26s3%3D0%26s5%3D0%26s7%3D0%26cn%3D%26cdid%3D%26cdn%3D), from tbkmedia.de:
(http://c1.alamy.com/thumbs/4/%7B31F59A4E-ACCF-4AE1-83D5-A1307ADFB789%7D/ACA50Y.jpg) (http://c1.alamy.com/thumbs/4/%7B6834CE4B-3C79-49D7-B844-0BAAF2F9122D%7D/AN1W3T.jpg)
These and others were reported to Alamy. "The first two ‘L’ images belong to the same contributor and the RF image belongs to a different contributor. Since these images belong to different collections, we cannot say these are duplicate images (L and RF)." One must be very blind not to see these (and others) are duplicate...
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That is why Photographersdirect don't allow any RF micro author to be their member - at least they have such rules to minimize consequences on their own reputation.
This is news to me, doesn't Photographers Direct forbid microstock only? Unless, of course, the image has been licensed as RF before. As I said, once I sell an image in one license, I don't sell it in the other.
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I sold ONE foto in featurepics this year, for $1,69! I'm still about $23 short of my first payout there, ever! I stopped uploading a long time ago.. I find it's just a waste of time! :(
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I sold ONE foto in featurepics this year, for $1,69! I'm still about $23 short of my first payout there, ever! I stopped uploading a long time ago.. I find it's just a waste of time! :(
I second that !
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I personally gave up on featurepics. I honestly don't know how they keep the doors open. I've sold 1 picture on there since I've been a member. My microstock is the same as what is on all the other sites which sell good. My macro stock hasn't even had a bite. I'm not sure what market she is trying to break into, but it certainly isn't mine. I'll proubably end up pulling my portfolio. Hope I can get my 5.60 out of there. I quite uploading quite awhile ago.
Has any one sold any Macro stock on there??
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I've just spent the time to read this entire thread. It went from very encouraging to a huge disappointment. Is anyone still recommending starting a new account?
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I was with them over two years with no payout. I closed my account just recently.
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After they changed pricing etc., my sales have gone down drastically. Not a good sign for the future. In addition, all my RM photos there, which are not available as RF anywhere, have been removed :(
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Still hardly any sales there, unless you have a portfolio that sells like crazy, it isn't worth the time uploading there. They have had long enough to establish themselves and unfortunately it hasn't worked out. If they ever do pick up, I am sure people will post about it here.
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Earned over 600 Euro at featurepix this year :)
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Earned over 600 Euro at featurepix this year :)
I wouldn't mind betting you make a bit more on some other sites :)
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If Yuri makes only $600 with collection of 20,000 photos I will hardly make $10 in a year with my 1,000 if less sell-able pics.... not worth my time indeed
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Earned over 600 Euro at featurepix this year :)
Hi ,
If you don't mind me asking, how do you do at photo spin?
Thanks
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After they changed pricing etc., my sales have gone down drastically. Not a good sign for the future. In addition, all my RM photos there, which are not available as RF anywhere, have been removed :(
They haven't been removed - they are back on the edition phase. Elena said we should prove they are not sold as RF elsewhere. I still haven't come back and reinstated mine, also because I noticed some flaws in their RM prices.
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I think Featurepics is possibly on their death bed. I'm tired of trying to bring them back to life. I managed to contribute $8.00 to their coffers.
Seriously, is ANY one actually making ANY money with Featurepics? I'm really considering deleting my account, that way I can put the ton of mid stock images I put on there in my microstock accounts. I quit uploading a long time ago.
Something just isn't right when just about every photo you have on all other micro sites combined doesn't sell....whoops forgot about the one $8.00 one. Of course that was before their price changes.
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It's sad that after their changes, sales have been so rare for me. :'(
FP was my favourite site, but then there was so much confusion about RM vs macro RF vs micro RF during the changes... I don't know.
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I've had the grand total of three 0.40 sales after the price change (great F...... idea by the way ::)) with almost 600 images there, the site is nothing but a "BIG" disappointment to me and lots of other folks that have supported the site.
@Donding,
Death bed you said?, I think is more like dust and bones + the rat that sold Elena on the idea that the changes were going to be the reinvention of the wheel in the micro/macro world ;)
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Are they still alive, I got last sale about year ago :-)
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Very well put [email protected] like dust in the wind!!!....lol
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I still get the occasional sale but like others here, the price changes look to of wrecked the site. It was bad enough only getting one sale a month but now I get less than that and make less when I do sell something. I stuck with them because when I did sell something, it was worthwhile but now I don't see much point using them. Buyers seemed just as likely to buy with the old higher prices.
I do think the small sites have been hit hard by the economic downturn. If I was a buyer, I would avoid the small sites because they are more likely to close. If the worldwide economy bounces back, people might have more confidence in the smaller sites that survived the downturn but it still look perilous at the moment.
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I joined them last year because they had higher prices and higher commissions.
Shortly after that they changed both of that, as if trying to compete on price would be the only way to do business.
Never had a single sale on the site. Totally dead. They might as well die, I wouldn't notice. And I wouldn't mind, now as they removed the only reason to really support them (higher prices, higher commissions)...
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I joined them last year because they had higher prices and higher commissions.
Shortly after that they changed both of that, as if trying to compete on price would be the only way to do business.
Never had a single sale on the site. Totally dead. They might as well die, I wouldn't notice. And I wouldn't mind, now as they removed the only reason to really support them (higher prices, higher commissions)...
^^^ with 595 files. So . . . . . . . 595 + 0 = 0
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I like to have my macro portfolio in FP, and using their HTML tools to embed collections in my website, maybe in the future use collections to market images directly. But right now I see many of my images back to the edition phase because they want me to confirm they are RM, even one I already sold there as RM:
"Please provide a history of the image usage if you want to continue to license the image as rights managed, or request to change the license to RF"
This is most of my portfolio there, and only 20 images are now available online. This is sad...
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I joined them because they sounded and looked promising. That was about a year or so ago. Now when you read the forum and people say they haven't had any sales and aren't uploading any more.....Elena...I believe that is her name.... always tells them it's been a slow month and tells them if they aren't seeing sales then it would proubably be a good idea to stop uploading untill things pick up.........What is that all about????...the administrator is telling you not to upload??? I personally quit uploading because of no sales, but it surprised me she would say something like that if she wanted to market her site. I think she's given up and it is just a matter of time.
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I admire Elena's honesty and sometimes it is better to be truthful than pretend everything is going well, like some other sites have. I think FP have made some big mistakes and they might be fatal but I will leave my portfolio there because there is always a slim chance that they will turn it around and get something going.
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I admire Elena's honesty and sometimes it is better to be truthful than pretend everything is going well, like some other sites have. I think FP have made some big mistakes and they might be fatal but I will leave my portfolio there because there is always a slim chance that they will turn it around and get something going.
Your right about her honesty, I guess I owe her credit for that. Thanks for pointing that out. I hope your right about that "slim chance" because I have a good size portfolio there and it would take forever to get it off there....I don't see me doing it any time soon but I will proubably do it if things don't pick up there soon....one sale over a one year span just doesn't work for me.
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I admire Elena's honesty and sometimes it is better to be truthful than pretend everything is going well, like some other sites have. I think FP have made some big mistakes and they might be fatal but I will leave my portfolio there because there is always a slim chance that they will turn it around and get something going.
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Elena has guts, and she is a figther. She also has a nice cat. ;D
I'll stick there.
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No sales so far....my early december uploads are still under review.....Are they still on holiday?
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I just e-mailed customer support and had them delete my account. They did it the next day...now for my $5.60...I didn't even ask for it and they didn't offer it...That tells you how good their sales are there.
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I don't usually post earnings, but these numbers are so far off even my 2nd worst site, I don't care. Here are my monthy earnings since my last payout a year ago. I quit uploading months ago, but never felt it was worth the effort to delete accounts.
2/2009 $11.16
3/2009 $5.58
4/2009 $1.12
5/2009 $7.68
6/2009 $8.38
7/2009 $0.40
8/2009 $4.00
10/2009 $3.40
11/2009 $4.00
12/2009 $2.50
1/2010 $0.40
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Donding, you would have had a better chance in collecting your money if you just waited until they closed down their doors, unfortunately the way I see it, they're not going to be around much longer...too bad, I really like the site and Elena. :'(
I'll just leave my portfolio there, as dbvirago mention, not worth the effort to delete the account.
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If $5.60 breaks me then I'm in bad shape...... ::)
No realy I don't really care, I just wanted to get off there so I wouldn't have to worry about it anymore.
As far as deleting the account, I just wrote to customer service and ask if I had to delete each picture one by one or could they do it for me because I wanted to close my account. It was closed the next day, so if your planning on doing that, I'd do it that way since it would take forever to delete them one by one.
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Unfortunately I'm only a few dollars away to reach my first payout with them in a year, mind you, it wont brake me to loose that money either, but after so much work uploading to the site I feel I deserve to get pay the pennies I've accumulated... :)
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Unfortunately I'm only a few dollars away to reach my first payout with them in a year, mind you, it wont brake me to loose that money either, but after so much work uploading to the site I feel I deserve to get pay the pennies I've accumulated... :)
Yeah I agree [email protected] your that close then hang on, but that $5.60 was from a sell right before they changed everything....I beleive that was in June or July if I remember right.
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Hey! who knows, if they don't close down and keep my money, I may be able to get pay before 2015 ;D
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I've got around $25.00 in there that I hope to get out ... but I'd rather see them pull things together.
-Mark
http://markwpayne.wordpress.com (http://markwpayne.wordpress.com)
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Considering Elena's attitude in the past, should any of you decide to close your account before a payout, I am certain she would pay your earnings.
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they didn't pay me my $22 when I closed a couple of months ago.
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That's surprising, gbc, because I think other people closed their accounts in the past and received their money.
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That's surprising, gbc, because I think other people closed their accounts in the past and received their money.
Yes madelaide I remember reading that on the forum there. I guess it all depends on rather you ask for it or not. I didn't ask since all I had was $5.60. It's really a shame that it didn't work out because Elena is really a nice helpful person. I see alot of photographers pulling out of featurpics.
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I also closed account a few months ago. In one year I've only sold one image for 3.5$. I didn't ask for that money. It bothered me they allowed only 15 keywords for an image..
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That's surprising, gbc, because I think other people closed their accounts in the past and received their money.
Yes madelaide I remember reading that on the forum there. I guess it all depends on rather you ask for it or not. I didn't ask since all I had was $5.60. It's really a shame that it didn't work out because Elena is really a nice helpful person. I see alot of photographers pulling out of featurpics.
Yes, some photographers are closing their accounts, but the number of submitted images is growing daily.
I have checked our stat - we have rejected 63% of image in Dec-Jan.
Received a few "Love your stuff" emails from clients. Working a lot to improve the search results.
The first 5 pages at http://www.featurepics.com/Image/img.aspx (http://www.featurepics.com/Image/img.aspx) - random reviewers' choice. Are working with old portfolios to "digg out" good images.
Hope to report news regarding "3d printing" (soon).
Thank you, Elena.
PS. There is no problem to send payments "$5.60". There is no problem to send payments advance. Cheking my emails daily.
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That's surprising, gbc, because I think other people closed their accounts in the past and received their money.
Yes madelaide I remember reading that on the forum there. I guess it all depends on rather you ask for it or not. I didn't ask since all I had was $5.60. It's really a shame that it didn't work out because Elena is really a nice helpful person. I see alot of photographers pulling out of featurpics.
Yes, some photographers are closing their accounts, but the number of submitted images is growing daily.
I have checked our stat - we have rejected 63% of image in Dec-Jan.
Received a few "Love your stuff" emails from clients. Working a lot to improve the search results.
The first 5 pages at [url]http://www.featurepics.com/Image/img.aspx[/url] ([url]http://www.featurepics.com/Image/img.aspx[/url]) - random reviewers' choice. Are working with old portfolios to "digg out" good images.
Hope to report news regarding "3d printing" (soon).
Thank you, Elena.
PS. There is no problem to send payments "$5.60". There is no problem to send payments advance. Cheking my emails daily.
Great Response!
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Sales have been slow there lately, but since most of my portfolio is there, FP is the place I link to when people ask to see my photos. I hope they survive. They are easy to deal with, which can't be said about all participants in this business.
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That's surprising, gbc, because I think other people closed their accounts in the past and received their money.
Yes madelaide I remember reading that on the forum there. I guess it all depends on rather you ask for it or not. I didn't ask since all I had was $5.60. It's really a shame that it didn't work out because Elena is really a nice helpful person. I see alot of photographers pulling out of featurpics.
Yes, some photographers are closing their accounts, but the number of submitted images is growing daily.
I have checked our stat - we have rejected 63% of image in Dec-Jan.
Received a few "Love your stuff" emails from clients. Working a lot to improve the search results.
The first 5 pages at [url]http://www.featurepics.com/Image/img.aspx[/url] ([url]http://www.featurepics.com/Image/img.aspx[/url]) - random reviewers' choice. Are working with old portfolios to "digg out" good images.
Hope to report news regarding "3d printing" (soon).
Thank you, Elena.
PS. There is no problem to send payments "$5.60". There is no problem to send payments advance. Cheking my emails daily.
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Sales have been slow there lately, but since most of my portfolio is there, FP is the place I link to when people ask to see my photos. I hope they survive. They are easy to deal with, which can't be said about all participants in this business.
"Survive" - not related to FP. I am not going to "pass away" very soon. Hope so.
http://www.featurepics.com/photos-images/royal+trophy+golf.htm (http://www.featurepics.com/photos-images/royal+trophy+golf.htm)
Enjoined every image you posted :)
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One of "liveness" signs for a site is review time. My photos are "under review" since 12/10...
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Considering Elena's attitude in the past, should any of you decide to close your account before a payout, I am certain she would pay your earnings.
to conduct ourselves with professionalism is a two way street.
i have but completely forgotten about Fpics, as i joined them when they first started, and left it unattended as i felt they were too new then and still needed to get their act together.
but i also have to agree with Madelaide. even during those days when she had a whole new task and no doubt a much bigger burden on her hands , Elena had always taken the time to respond personally to my emails. and promptly too...
and in the most professional and upright manner.
i don't think Elena is such a petty person to take what little piddly pennies accumulated before payout and run away with it should i decide to delete my account.
what would be the point? still, i have a few other sites that have accumulated piddly earnings too, and have not seen the point of deleting my accounts there.
Elena is not like that. at least that's my impression of her.
should i choose to delete my account, i would not discredit her unfairly and unjustified,
without first at least writing her to ask (POLITELY).
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FP informed me today that the money owed to me would be sent out the end of the month. I assume everyone who closes their account and is owed money will get it after the 31st.
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One of "liveness" signs for a site is review time. My photos are "under review" since 12/10...
Yep, I am taking time to review images. AND revising the old images our reviewers accepted earlier.
AND I am not going to accept images in "bulk".
AND we will not report 7 million images.
I am spending 30% of my time to develop and maintain the site, 40% - to work with old portfolios, 30% - to review.
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Considering Elena's attitude in the past, should any of you decide to close your account before a payout, I am certain she would pay your earnings.
to conduct ourselves with professionalism is a two way street.
i have but completely forgotten about Fpics, as i joined them when they first started, and left it unattended as i felt they were too new then and still needed to get their act together.
but i also have to agree with Madelaide. even during those days when she had a whole new task and no doubt a much bigger burden on her hands , Elena had always taken the time to respond personally to my emails. and promptly too...
and in the most professional and upright manner.
i don't think Elena is such a petty person to take what little piddly pennies accumulated before payout and run away with it should i decide to delete my account.
what would be the point? still, i have a few other sites that have accumulated piddly earnings too, and have not seen the point of deleting my accounts there.
Elena is not like that. at least that's my impression of her.
should i choose to delete my account, i would not discredit her unfairly and unjustified,
without first at least writing her to ask (POLITELY).
Thank you.
The "request to close" procedure is in my "TODO" list. I don't want you to ask for money you earned.
In mean time - sorry for inconvenience. Just drop me an email.
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One of "liveness" signs for a site is review time. My photos are "under review" since 12/10...
Yep, I am taking time to review images. AND revising the old images our reviewers accepted earlier.
AND I am not going to accept images in "bulk".
AND we will not report 7 million images.
I am spending 30% of my time to develop and maintain the site, 40% - to work with old portfolios, 30% - to review.
Elena,
that's really GOOD NEWS. looks like you're really wanting to do a general cleanup.
you will certainly find me uploading to you again, if this is the direction you are taking.
Best of luck to FPics.
p.s.
btw i have no plans to ask to delete my account. i was responding to those who were planning.
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I don't usually post earnings, but these numbers are so far off even my 2nd worst site, I don't care. Here are my monthy earnings since my last payout a year ago. I quit uploading months ago, but never felt it was worth the effort to delete accounts.
2/2009 $11.16
3/2009 $5.58
4/2009 $1.12
5/2009 $7.68
6/2009 $8.38
7/2009 $0.40
8/2009 $4.00
10/2009 $3.40
11/2009 $4.00
12/2009 $2.50
1/2010 $0.40
You are my hero. I wish I earn so much on FP :-P
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I just requested to have my account closed, but it was nothing personal and I think it is a good site for those who get sales. In 22 months I didn't have as many sales. Just business, and I hope Elena can turn the site around. I have been thinking about closing any account that has practically no sales (For me of course) or sites that reject more than 50% of my work on a consistant basis. That will leave me with 5 of the so called Big 6 to work with.
I also closed out another site today, and I will be closing out a third account within the next month if things don't change in the way they reject things. I din't like wasting their time, and I especially don't like going through a hoop of fire trying to upload, keyword and select categories when rejection rates are between 80% to 100%.
Again it isn't personal and I do not blame the site; things just don't work out for everyone on every site. But I did try!
Roadrunner
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One of "liveness" signs for a site is review time. My photos are "under review" since 12/10...
Yep, I am taking time to review images. AND revising the old images our reviewers accepted earlier.
AND I am not going to accept images in "bulk".
AND we will not report 7 million images.
I am spending 30% of my time to develop and maintain the site, 40% - to work with old portfolios, 30% - to review.
Elena,
that's really GOOD NEWS. looks like you're really wanting to do a general cleanup.
you will certainly find me uploading to you again, if this is the direction you are taking.
Best of luck to FPics.
p.s.
btw i have no plans to ask to delete my account. i was responding to those who were planning.
I have no choice. Clients should find what they are looking for. I put myself into this situation for a reason.
Search results - my priority for the next two months. I need to learn the portfolio (I know 40% of it only by now) and "tune" our search algorithms.
Really don't want to loose great images...
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I am spending 30% of my time to develop and maintain the site, 40% - to work with old portfolios, 30% - to review.
Sorry, I did not realize that you are working alone on the site
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I am spending 30% of my time to develop and maintain the site, 40% - to work with old portfolios, 30% - to review.
Sorry, I did not realize that you are working alone on the site
The agency is small, but I am not alone.
We are adjusting our policies according to the site size. Less images, better quality, more support for clients.
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Hi Elena,
I think I read somewhere that you can set your own price on your site... is that true? And up to how much can you set it?
Thanks
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Hi Elena,
I think I read somewhere that you can set your own price on your site... is that true? And up to how much can you set it?
Thanks
I know I'm not Elena, but she has microstock and midstock. She has set price stucture for the microstock. The midstock you can set your prices but agree that you don't have these same photos on microstock agencies. I don't remember if there is a requirement to have these midstock images on line or not. As for the midstock you can set your own price up to $75.00, unless she's changed it
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ahah no problem ;)
I do have works that I would sell as mid or macro stock (matte paintings and digital paintings) that I do not sell as micro. But I would sell them only if I can set the price up to $100-200 and no less.
Thank you anyway.
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Hi Elena,
I think I read somewhere that you can set your own price on your site... is that true? And up to how much can you set it?
Thanks
I know I'm not Elena, but she has microstock and midstock. She has set price stucture for the microstock. The midstock you can set your prices but agree that you don't have these same photos on microstock agencies. I don't remember if there is a requirement to have these midstock images on line or not. As for the midstock you can set your own price up to $75.00, unless she's changed it
That is right. Up to $100.00. Thank you Donding!
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That is right. Up to $100.00. Thank you Donding!
hmmm I might consider to upload my matte painting and digital painting portfolio then...
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No sales here..... I'n not surprised because most of my files submitted in december are still under review!
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I had one sales last week. It had been a long time without one. :(
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I had one sales last week. It had been a long time without one. :(
Congrats! Madelaide on your sale, it is such a rare event nowadays for FP to make a sale, I can't even remember when it was the last time I made any kind of money with them...it's really getting tiredsome checking every week to see the same amount of $ just sitting there. :-\
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I had one sales last week. It had been a long time without one. :(
Congrats! Madelaide on your sale, it is such a rare event nowadays for FP to make a sale, I can't even remember when it was the last time I made any kind of money with them...it's really getting tiredsome checking every week to see the same amount of $ just sitting there. :-\
I get an email every time they sell something, saves time checking there. I had one recently but the lower prices and commissions have reduced my earnings. I used to get the same low number of sales but when I did get one, it was usually for a nice commission. Now it is really hard to see why I should stay there after my next payout. It will take a while to reach that, so they still have some time to improve but after the last few years, I don't see it happening.
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My last sale was 4 month ago.
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Now it is really hard to see why I should stay there after my next payout. It will take a while to reach that, so they still have some time to improve but after the last few years, I don't see it happening.
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My sentiments exactly Sharpshot, I'm about $26.00 short of reaching my next payout, but at the rate they're going we may be talking a couple of more years before that happens, lol, but I'll tell you something, after Elena mention that she would pay any accumulated commissions to anyone that wanted to close their account, I'm considering that option more and more every month.
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I used to get an email for a sale, but for this recent one I didn't.
And all the site messages were removed, when I checked today.
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I just need ONE more sale at FP for payout! My very first. lol
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I had one sales last week. It had been a long time without one. :(
Congrats! Madelaide on your sale, it is such a rare event nowadays for FP to make a sale, I can't even remember when it was the last time I made any kind of money with them...it's really getting tiredsome checking every week to see the same amount of $ just sitting there. :-\
I get an email every time they sell something, saves time checking there. I had one recently but the lower prices and commissions have reduced my earnings. I used to get the same low number of sales but when I did get one, it was usually for a nice commission. Now it is really hard to see why I should stay there after my next payout. It will take a while to reach that, so they still have some time to improve but after the last few years, I don't see it happening.
I had much higher pricing which made up for slower sales there. Then they started making their changes. In 2008 ... $2.80 was on the low end of the commissions with $11.95 being on the high end. In 2009 .50 was on the low end with $2.50 being on the high end.
Some Samples:
$2.80 2008
$10.63 2008
$11.95 2008
$2.50 Nov 2009
$.50 Nov 2009
-Mark
http://markwpayne.wordpress.com (http://markwpayne.wordpress.com)
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No sales on FP for four months. Is anybody getting sales there recently? :(
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no. :'(
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nahh
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I just need ONE more sale at FP for payout! My very first. lol
I had several. The last one was Nov 2009. After that I only had 7 sales with an average RPD of 2$. They lost their USP that you could set your own prices and that they had no subs. That's all gone. They're not Midstock any more. I kept them since they were the engine for my portfolio site, but I found another solution for that. Nothing keeps me there any more. I expect them to die a gentle natural death soon. The stock world will soon belong to StinkStockers with 20...10 cents subs.