Two days after I made my first post, I got a sale again on FP, the first one since July. Serendipity or synchronicity?

Quote from: epixx on October 14, 2008, 07:31I see from sales at other agencies that sales during American business hours have gone down, while European business hours are good, probably due to the fact that the financial crisis started in the US and has hit much harder there.

Correct.

Quote from: epixx on October 14, 2008, 07:31If I want to have something to worry about, I would rather look at SS. The number of sales per day there for me are around half of what they were one year ago.

Correct also. My earnings went down to 2/3 after a 6 months pause in uploading. When I resumed uploading again, sales took off for a few days. Then the crisis hit, and my SS daily sales the past 1-2 weeks have been at 20% what they used to be. Early sales (EU business hours) staid the same, later sales (US East coast) went down. Latest sales (US West Coast) are a disaster. It's hardly understandable since subscription packages span one to several months, and every day customers miss their download allowance, they lose.

Quote from: madelaide on October 14, 2008, 22:11
I forgot to mention that I reached a new pay-out.

I am concerned however with their recent site mail:

QuoteUnfortunately, we haven't done so well the last 2 months. Our sales have dropped.
It's not a reason to give up, but it is a reason to do more from our side.

And I learnt yeaterday that they stopped the RM licensing.  Images currently set as RM will remain so, but new uploads will be only for RF or RF editorial.  Sad.

Regards,
Adelaide

That's strange since Featurepics would indicate they are selling Feature Pictures / Editorial.

RF Editorial, that's an interesting apparent contradiction. But never fear, I can search and read. 

"Royalty Free, Editorial" refers to newsworthy, personal and educational publications, digital and video work products, etc. that do not generate income or are not used to promote the generation of income.

In other words, none of the people who would want, need or use my photos. If this is the way they are going, I guess I'll have to pull the plug and remove all my images, because they are of no use to FP or me, taking up space there. Nothing wrong with that, just that it doesn't make sense to waste their time or mine. Too bad because I thought the site was a very nice niche for my smaller editorial images.

Since I started this thread back in June, I still have had no sales.
As I said, I have stopped uploading but unfortunately for me I have earnings there short of my first payout.

Phew!!

Quote from: RacePhoto on October 15, 2008, 06:27
RF Editorial, that's an interesting apparent contradiction. But never fear, I can search and read. 

But isn't that the same in other sites that accept editorial images, such as DT? 

Regards,
Adelaide

Quote from: madelaide on October 15, 2008, 17:14

Quote from: RacePhoto on October 15, 2008, 06:27
RF Editorial, that's an interesting apparent contradiction. But never fear, I can search and read. 

But isn't that the same in other sites that accept editorial images, such as DT? 

Regards,
Adelaide

I don't do anything editorial except Alamy and Featurepics. On Alamy it defaults to Licensed as soon as the boxes are clicked for No Model Release or No Property Release. (If needed) The option to sell Editorial RF doesn't exist on Alamy.

The part that eliminates me is do not generate income or are not used to promote the generation of income because the photos I am submitting are news. I can't imagine someone who doesn't generate income, paying $20 for an image.  The price on DT is "as low as 20c"

Maybe I can rephrase it better by saying, I'm confused? No announcement from FP but it's on their forum, I don't see much market for RF editorial. I'm not saying it's wrong... I just don't get it. 

Quote
RF editorial is the correct choice.
RM license doesn't work for our site, so we deleted it from the list of license options on the Artist's side.
Old RM images will appear on the site.
Thank you, Elena.

Quote from: madelaide on October 15, 2008, 17:14

Quote from: RacePhoto on October 15, 2008, 06:27
RF Editorial, that's an interesting apparent contradiction. But never fear, I can search and read. 

But isn't that the same in other sites that accept editorial images, such as DT? 

Regards,
Adelaide

It is. SS, Yay, Scanstock and most recently BS fall in the same category. Traditionally, news media have preferred RM for different reasons, one of them being cost, but with the low prices of microstock, at least that argument falls. I see a lot of my images uploaded to Scanstock in Norwegian newspapers.

My sales were low too. So I asked them to delete my images and close my account. They did so, and they also paid me the $ 28 I had on my account.

Quote from: RacePhoto on October 15, 2008, 17:55
The part that eliminates me is do not generate income or are not used to promote the generation of income because the photos I am submitting are news. I can't imagine someone who doesn't generate income, paying $20 for an image. 

I understand it as not generating income with the photo itself.  No posters, no mugs.  The buyer only sells a magazine with the image illustrating an article.

Quote from: RacePhoto on October 15, 2008, 17:55
No announcement from FP but it's on their forum, I don't see much market for RF editorial.

I saw that and asked for clarification.  Strange not to be annouced even by site mail.  I have uploaded a RM on Sunday or Monday.  I sold two RM images in FP.

Regards,
Adelaide

Quote from: takestock on October 15, 2008, 09:00Since I started this thread back in June, I still have had no sales. As I said, I have stopped uploading but unfortunately for me I have earnings there short of my first payout.

How can you have earnings without sales? Referrals?

I've had a few referrals, but I think takestock was referring to earnings from sales before June.

Regards,
Adelaide

last sale 9/17/08

funny, everyone talks about YAYmicro and Featurepics, having no sales...
but you don't hear anyone asking the same question about SnapVillage,
Image Catalog,etc...
from what i hear , they don't sell either. or is it just my network ?

Hali,
People are getting tired - these have been covered before and yes- both are very sparodic performers, (for me anyaway)

Right now I think, the jury is out on quite a few.

3rd sale this month today.

Just in the other day i wrote here that i don´t have any sale for months and voilá i got a sale today

Quote from: hali on October 16, 2008, 19:33
funny, everyone talks about YAYmicro and Featurepics, having no sales...
but you don't hear anyone asking the same question about SnapVillage,
Image Catalog,etc...
from what i hear , they don't sell either. or is it just my network ?

That is easy to explain. I have regular sales at SnapVillage, but zero sales at YaY and not a single sales for about half a year at Feature.

what did you expect from crappy site?