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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2020, 11:22 »
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You might want to edit the date year 2010???

By the way thanks Adobe

« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2020, 11:31 »
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Super awesome and thank you!

« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2020, 11:41 »
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Hi,
You said between Jan 1 and Dec 31, but now is just Match, and I get code? Thank you, but...?

« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2020, 11:43 »
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is there any way to see total points (images + video x 8 ) downloads?

because if we select "This year" it count all video downloads as 1 not 8.

btw. it will be much harder to get All Apps than it was before. Only one year for 5000 downloads...

« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2020, 11:44 »
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So 625 video downloads?  :o  Has anyone here been able to do that, ever?
« Last Edit: March 30, 2020, 11:48 by ccbcc »

« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2020, 11:47 »
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Great News Matt.

« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2020, 11:58 »
+1
You might want to edit the date year 2010???

By the way thanks Adobe

Doh!

Thanks Photobomb!

« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2020, 11:59 »
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So 625 video downloads?  :o  Has anyone here been able to do that, ever?

The total downloads can be a combination of asset types. 100 video downloads plus 4,200 photos for example would be the same as 5,000 total downloads and qualify for the all apps plan.

-Mat

« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2020, 12:01 »
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Hi,
You said between Jan 1 and Dec 31, but now is just Match, and I get code? Thank you, but...?

The bonus code you recently received is most likely from your efforts in 2019. The bonus program I am announcing today is for 2020.

-Mat

Noedelhap

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« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2020, 12:09 »
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Thanks for the bonus program opportunity this year.

However, I already know that I won't be eligible for the All Apps plan, because there's no way I will hit that magic 5000+ download number by the end of the year...Especially when the corona crisis is hitting the economy hard.

Edit: not sure if this means I should hit 5000 new downloads in 1 year, or I should hit the 5000 number of All Time downloads?
« Last Edit: March 30, 2020, 12:22 by Noedelhap »

« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2020, 12:12 »
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By now, you should have received an email about the 2020 bonus program for Adobe Stock artists. We are switching the program up this year.

Instead of the number of uploads being the qualifier, it's going to be the number of downloads. Contributors with more than 150 downloads between Jan 1 and Dec 31, 2020 will receive a bonus code for their chose of Creative Cloud Photography plan or a single app which yes, one of those apps to choose from is Illustrator if you are a vector artist or Premiere if you are a video producer.

For those of you that have 5,000 or more downloads this year we'll be providing you with a code for the all-apps Creative Cloud. Still images count as 1 download, video licenses count as 8 downloads by the way.

You can see all the details here for additional information: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/royalty-details.html

Let me know if you have any questions,

Mat Hayward

Thanks, Mat! This is great news!

Since 1 video DL counts as 8 DLs, maybe it's time to talk to the technical team and ask them to create a filter for video DLs and earnings. There is no way to segregate video DLs and earnings from the totals.
« Last Edit: March 30, 2020, 12:18 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2020, 12:14 »
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Hello Mat. Does the contributor who has over 5000 sales ''need'' Creative Cloud full membership? I think this is not good. Maybe it can be change as there may be 1 application for 150 downloads and other 1 application for the other 150 downloads(...)
5000 is too much. means 13-14 downloads per day.

« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2020, 12:14 »
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By now, you should have received an email about the 2020 bonus program for Adobe Stock artists. We are switching the program up this year.

Instead of the number of uploads being the qualifier, it's going to be the number of downloads. Contributors with more than 150 downloads between Jan 1 and Dec 31, 2020 will receive a bonus code for their chose of Creative Cloud Photography plan or a single app which yes, one of those apps to choose from is Illustrator if you are a vector artist or Premiere if you are a video producer.

For those of you that have 5,000 or more downloads this year we'll be providing you with a code for the all-apps Creative Cloud. Still images count as 1 download, video licenses count as 8 downloads by the way.

You can see all the details here for additional information: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/royalty-details.html

Let me know if you have any questions,

Mat Hayward

Thanks, Mat! This is great news!
Since 1 video DL counts as 8 DLs, maybe it's time to talk to the technical team and ask them to create a filter for video DLs and earnings. There is no way to segregate video DLs and earnings from the totals.

I asked it but got ignored. :D

« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2020, 12:19 »
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Mat, one more question: it's likely that I will hit 5,000+ DLs for 2020 around July-August. I only have the Photography plan. Will I be able to upgrade to the full package earlier?
« Last Edit: March 30, 2020, 12:24 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2020, 12:32 »
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Mat, one more question: it's likely that I will hit 5,000+ DLs for 2020 around July-August. I only have the Photography plan. Will I be able to upgrade to the full package earlier?

It doesn't look like it.

"Bonuses2 will be determined in January 2021, and codes issued in February 2021."

I guess it will be an automated response / delivery system for the codes etc that will happen in the above time frame.

« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2020, 12:34 »
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Mat, one more question: it's likely that I will hit 5,000+ DLs for 2020 around July-August. I only have the Photography plan. Will I be able to upgrade to the full package earlier?
a

It's a great question but no, the codes will be distributed in February, 2021 for all qualified artists.

-Mat

« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2020, 12:36 »
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By now, you should have received an email about the 2020 bonus program for Adobe Stock artists. We are switching the program up this year.

Instead of the number of uploads being the qualifier, it's going to be the number of downloads. Contributors with more than 150 downloads between Jan 1 and Dec 31, 2020 will receive a bonus code for their chose of Creative Cloud Photography plan or a single app which yes, one of those apps to choose from is Illustrator if you are a vector artist or Premiere if you are a video producer.

For those of you that have 5,000 or more downloads this year we'll be providing you with a code for the all-apps Creative Cloud. Still images count as 1 download, video licenses count as 8 downloads by the way.

You can see all the details here for additional information: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/royalty-details.html

Let me know if you have any questions,

Mat Hayward

Thanks, Mat! This is great news!
Since 1 video DL counts as 8 DLs, maybe it's time to talk to the technical team and ask them to create a filter for video DLs and earnings. There is no way to segregate video DLs and earnings from the totals.

I asked it but got ignored. :D

Now is as good a time as any to revisit this particular feature request however so I will be sending it off to the development team again for consideration.

Thanks for the feedback everyone,

Mat

« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2020, 12:44 »
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Mat, one more question: it's likely that I will hit 5,000+ DLs for 2020 around July-August. I only have the Photography plan. Will I be able to upgrade to the full package earlier?
a

It's a great question but no, the codes will be distributed in February, 2021 for all qualified artists.

-Mat

Too bad.
I like Davinci Resolve but I think that there was a chance to be hooked by Premiere Pro and After Effects, before I learn to love Davinci too much!  ;)

Anyway, the initiative is really appreciated!
Thanks again!

« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2020, 13:02 »
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Thanks Mat... great to see this become a regular thing.

Liking the new, "Full package" plan, seems a fair achievable scale.... the more you put in the more you get out. Also, illustrators will now be able to get both packages... Illustrator on it's own or via the full package. Always seemed harsh for those guys in the past.


« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2020, 13:09 »
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This almost rings the bell of "Redeemed Credits Redux".


Gcarter08

  • Diversity Stock Photographer
« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2020, 13:17 »
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I thought I was doing good, but just realized I am nowhere near the goal for downloads. Time to adjust my style or something hmmmm...

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« Reply #22 on: March 30, 2020, 13:49 »
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So my question is  this.
For the last two years I have qualified for the Bonus (thank you Adobe)
My plan when I was paying for it ran from Oct to Oct.
According to my Adobe account page I will be charged for a year on Oct 29.
I already have qualified for a new code for the photography plan under the new guidelines -  but If I don't get a new code until Feb will I have to pay for my plan between Oct and Feb when I get a new code?

Thanks

« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2020, 14:00 »
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I only submit videos footage and my first thought is thats a really high number, especially compared to the bonus programs of the past couple years.

I have a portfolio of 9000+ videos and Ive always though that I have a wide variety of high quality videos, but Ive never had 625 sales in a year.

It also doesnt help that my sales have been going down pretty significantly since last October.

« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2020, 14:01 »
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So my question is  this.
For the last two years I have qualified for the Bonus (thank you Adobe)
My plan when I was paying for it ran from Oct to Oct.
According to my Adobe account page I will be charged for a year on Oct 29.
I already have qualified for a new code for the photography plan under the new guidelines -  but If I don't get a new code until Feb will I have to pay for my plan between Oct and Feb when I get a new code?

Thanks

Yes, there will likely be a gap for many that qualified in 2019 between the time the 2019 bonus subscription ends and the 2020 codes are issued. This is part of the reason for an earlier announcement this year so you can plan accordingly.

Thank you,

Mat

« Reply #25 on: March 30, 2020, 14:03 »
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Let me understand if i get it right...
From 150to4999 credits i can choose 1 app between
1:photography creative plan
2:Illustrator
3:Premiere
4:After effects
5:Indesign
Over 5000 credits all apps creative clouds
??

« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2020, 14:07 »
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Let me understand if i get it right...
From 150to4999 credits i can choose 1 app between
1:photography creative plan
2:Illustrator
3:Premiere
4:After effects
5:Indesign
Over 5000 credits all apps creative clouds
??

To clarify, if you choose the Creative Cloud Photography plan you would get Photoshop and both versions of Lightroom in addition to all the other bells and whistles included in this subscription.

That being said, yes you are correct.

-Mat

« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2020, 14:15 »
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Let me understand if i get it right...
From 150to4999 credits i can choose 1 app between
1:photography creative plan
2:Illustrator
3:Premiere
4:After effects
5:Indesign
Over 5000 credits all apps creative clouds
??

To clarify, if you choose the Creative Cloud Photography plan you would get Photoshop and both versions of Lightroom in addition to all the other bells and whistles included in this subscription.

That being said, yes you are correct.

-Mat

Mat, did anything ever come of the possibility of Adobe allowing the order of keywords in LR (both versions) to be set manually rather than alphabetically. I did like using LR on the iPad etc but ended up sticking with C1 because I could rank keywords for Adobe Stock. Cheers.

« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2020, 14:17 »
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This is great news Adobe Stock! Thanks a lot for doing this - absolutely unique to have something like a "loyalty program" for contributors. Fantastic!

Gcarter08

  • Diversity Stock Photographer
« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2020, 14:33 »
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Out of curiosity - does anyone mind sharing what their average yearly number of downloads are? Based on most of the comments, Is 5000 an easy goal for most?

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« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2020, 14:41 »
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Thanks Matt. As always, one of the reasons I put more effort into Adobe than some of the others.

SpaceStockFootage

  • Space, Sci-Fi and Astronomy Related Stock Footage

« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2020, 15:27 »
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Out of curiosity - does anyone mind sharing what their average yearly number of downloads are? Based on most of the comments, Is 5000 an easy goal for most?

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Last year I had 45 video downloads... so that puts me at 360 downloads with the x8 for videos. Should make the 150 without too much trouble, but definitely not the 5000.

wds

« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2020, 15:31 »
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Thanks so much!! In a time when most sites are giving relatively less and less to contributors year over year, this is very much appreciated!!

« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2020, 15:37 »
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Out of curiosity - does anyone mind sharing what their average yearly number of downloads are? Based on most of the comments, Is 5000 an easy goal for most?

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Last year I had 45 video downloads... so that puts me at 360 downloads with the x8 for videos. Should make the 150 without too much trouble, but definitely not the 5000.

I had over 5k total downloads/year, for the past 4 years (2016 to 2019).

« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2020, 16:20 »
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Out of curiosity - does anyone mind sharing what their average yearly number of downloads are? Based on most of the comments, Is 5000 an easy goal for most?

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This month I've had 1319 so far... still a day to go though with 3100 this year so far. Last year total was 10k.

Edit. I wouldn't say it's an easy goal though. You have to work hard to get and stay there.
« Last Edit: March 30, 2020, 16:29 by HalfFull »

« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2020, 16:29 »
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I only submit videos footage and my first thought is thats a really high number, especially compared to the bonus programs of the past couple years.

I have a portfolio of 9000+ videos and Ive always though that I have a wide variety of high quality videos, but Ive never had 625 sales in a year.

It also doesnt help that my sales have been going down pretty significantly since last October.

I upload 90% videos and 10% images, but i'm in the same boat...after a bit of math i think that
i'll have about 4500 points at the end of the year. At this point i think that i'll invest more time on
affinity suite for vector and raster (or other alternatives) and i'll go with the bonus for After Effects.
'Thanks' to lockdown i have time to learn Bmd Fusion...my plan-B :)
I know that 60/month are nothing if you are in the business, but MS is a different beast...earnings
are like a rollercoaster, so i think that it's a wise choice to invest time on alternatives.
Said that, thanks Mat and thanks to Adobe for the offer!

« Reply #36 on: March 30, 2020, 16:31 »
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I only submit videos footage and my first thought is thats a really high number, especially compared to the bonus programs of the past couple years.

I have a portfolio of 9000+ videos and Ive always though that I have a wide variety of high quality videos, but Ive never had 625 sales in a year.

It also doesnt help that my sales have been going down pretty significantly since last October.

I upload 90% videos and 10% images, but i'm in the same boat...after a bit of math i think that
i'll have about 4500 points at the end of the year. At this point i think that i'll invest more time on
affinity suite for vector and raster (or other alternatives) and i'll go with the bonus for After Effects.
'Thanks' to lockdown i have time to learn Bmd Fusion...my plan-B :)
I know that 60/month are nothing if you are in the business, but MS is a different beast...earnings
are like a rollercoaster, so i think that it's a wise choice to invest time on alternatives.
Said that, thanks Mat and thanks to Adobe for the offer!

If you have a Mac, try Motion 5... it's about $50 and very good alternative to After Effects.

« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2020, 01:17 »
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If you have a Mac, try Motion 5... it's about $50 and very good alternative to After Effects.

I'm on pc, but thanks anyway :)

Chichikov

« Reply #38 on: March 31, 2020, 02:57 »
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Good new!

« Reply #39 on: March 31, 2020, 03:12 »
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5000 is a good level to set it to I think. Most people who do this full time should be able to get around that. It would be very hard for anyone doing this a as a part time gig, but it's a big reward so that's fine.

The 150 target is nice and generous.

« Reply #40 on: March 31, 2020, 04:44 »
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Out of curiosity - does anyone mind sharing what their average yearly number of downloads are? Based on most of the comments, Is 5000 an easy goal for most?

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

Last year I had 45 video downloads... so that puts me at 360 downloads with the x8 for videos. Should make the 150 without too much trouble, but definitely not the 5000.

I can make the 150 downloads, but I have and need the full Creative Cloud (animations, so AE, PS, Ill, etcetera) so what could I do with the single CC subscription?

« Reply #41 on: March 31, 2020, 04:57 »
+1
By now, you should have received an email about the 2020 bonus program for Adobe Stock artists. We are switching the program up this year.

Instead of the number of uploads being the qualifier, it's going to be the number of downloads. Contributors with more than 150 downloads between Jan 1 and Dec 31, 2020 will receive a bonus code for their chose of Creative Cloud Photography plan or a single app which yes, one of those apps to choose from is Illustrator if you are a vector artist or Premiere if you are a video producer.

For those of you that have 5,000 or more downloads this year we'll be providing you with a code for the all-apps Creative Cloud. Still images count as 1 download, video licenses count as 8 downloads by the way.

You can see all the details here for additional information: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/royalty-details.html

Let me know if you have any questions,

Mat Hayward

Wow, a 1 year plan of Adobe Illustrator CC? That one worth about USD300. And I only need to have 150 downloads in the whole year? That's pretty achievable, right? Have I interpret the whole thing wrongly?

« Reply #42 on: March 31, 2020, 05:34 »
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5000 is a good level to set it to I think. Most people who do this full time should be able to get around that. It would be very hard for anyone doing this a as a part time gig, but it's a big reward so that's fine.

The 150 target is nice and generous.

And I checked my downloads.. and yes, I have already qualified it. Waiting for the code next year.  :D

« Reply #43 on: March 31, 2020, 09:44 »
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I think it's easier for photographer to hit the target rather than videographer...

Gcarter08

  • Diversity Stock Photographer
« Reply #44 on: March 31, 2020, 11:53 »
+1
Out of curiosity - does anyone mind sharing what their average yearly number of downloads are? Based on most of the comments, Is 5000 an easy goal for most?

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

Last year I had 45 video downloads... so that puts me at 360 downloads with the x8 for videos. Should make the 150 without too much trouble, but definitely not the 5000.

I can make the 150 downloads, but I have and need the full Creative Cloud (animations, so AE, PS, Ill, etcetera) so what could I do with the single CC subscription?
Thank you all for sharing! I mainly contribute to premium and just this year started contributing to the micro/core collection. I might not make the goal but think it's cool for those that can!

I've been paying for the full adobe suite so long I'm just used to it

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SpaceStockFootage

  • Space, Sci-Fi and Astronomy Related Stock Footage

« Reply #45 on: March 31, 2020, 12:49 »
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I think it's easier for photographer to hit the target rather than videographer...

Yep... I mean 625 video downloads in a year, that's about $20K in earnings. I'm guessing 5000 photo downloads is a lot less.

« Reply #46 on: March 31, 2020, 17:59 »
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I think it's easier for photographer to hit the target rather than videographer...

Yep... I mean 625 video downloads in a year, that's about $20K in earnings. I'm guessing 5000 photo downloads is a lot less.

yes,you're right!!!
they could even place steps...from 150/1000 credits one program from 1000/2000 two programs and so on...

AnS

« Reply #47 on: April 01, 2020, 02:36 »
+1
Hi!

First of all: thanks for listening and taking our opinions into consideration! It's a great change that this time we will be able to choose our preferred software - vector artists can choose Illustrator, for example, yay!  :D

Counting videos as 8x regular downloads and basing the bonus more on downloads rather than uploads is also nice. I personally find that this program is more well-thought-out and for the first time is also including me (never used the bonus before, because Photoshop isn't useful for me at all, but this year I already qualify easily for Illustrator and with some hard work and luck, who knows, maybe even for all-aps).

georgep7

« Reply #48 on: April 01, 2020, 03:22 »
+1
Let's thank all those people spreading everywhere those

"how to get FREE adobe cloud LEGALLY for a whole year"

to the web and social for a few clicks, likes and
"wow man you rock keep them coming".

Like paying a small fee was that bad for most people.

Thanks Adobe and Mat for stepping up the game.

« Reply #49 on: April 01, 2020, 03:42 »
+4
Matt may i ask you ,why a videographer needs to earn around 20000k  to get all plan apps and a photographer needs around 2000$(depending on rpd)???
It's huge difference..
Btw i really appreciate the bonus..

« Reply #50 on: April 01, 2020, 05:01 »
+5
Matt may i ask you ,why a videographer needs to earn around 20000k  to get all plan apps and a photographer needs around 2000$(depending on rpd)???
It's huge difference..
Btw i really appreciate the bonus..

I also only upload video (full time job) and got to say that 625 downloads is an impossible (or extremely unrealistic) target. Maybe film factories can easily do it but one man bands is near impossible. Now I've got to figure out if I'd prefer After Effects or Premiere?

Noedelhap

  • www.colincramm.com

« Reply #51 on: April 02, 2020, 03:44 »
+4
Matt may i ask you ,why a videographer needs to earn around 20000k  to get all plan apps and a photographer needs around 2000$(depending on rpd)???
It's huge difference..
Btw i really appreciate the bonus..

I also only upload video (full time job) and got to say that 625 downloads is an impossible (or extremely unrealistic) target. Maybe film factories can easily do it but one man bands is near impossible. Now I've got to figure out if I'd prefer After Effects or Premiere?

Exactly. The first year we needed $500 in video downloads, now it's the equivalent of about $18k in video sales...That's hard if not impossible to achieve, especially considering the impact of the corona outbreak on stock sales.
« Last Edit: April 02, 2020, 03:47 by Noedelhap »

KeremGo3D

  • Master Of My Fate + Captain Of My Soul
« Reply #52 on: April 05, 2020, 07:22 »
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Hello friends, my question is how can I see my sales on the dashboard between the dates of  Jan 1 and Dec 31, 2020 ?

Thank you in advance!

« Reply #53 on: April 05, 2020, 08:32 »
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Hello friends, my question is how can I see my sales on the dashboard between the dates of  Jan 1 and Dec 31, 2020 ?

Thank you in advance!

On the dashboard at the top left corner is a time frame box. I've been selecting This Year as I'm assuming it's from Jan 1 to Dec 31.

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #54 on: April 05, 2020, 11:44 »
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Hello friends, my question is how can I see my sales on the dashboard between the dates of  Jan 1 and Dec 31, 2020 ?

Thank you in advance!

On the dashboard at the top left corner is a time frame box. I've been selecting This Year as I'm assuming it's from Jan 1 to Dec 31.

https://contributor.stock.adobe.com/en/portfolio

Dashboard

Lifetime, Week, Month, This Year


PZF

« Reply #55 on: April 08, 2020, 03:09 »
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Deleted comment. Issue addressed elsewhere.
« Last Edit: April 08, 2020, 06:34 by PZF »

« Reply #56 on: August 18, 2020, 04:52 »
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Hi,
My redeemed code expire 21. August  :-\ When we get new codes?

« Reply #57 on: August 18, 2020, 05:13 »
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Hi,
My redeemed code expire 21. August  :-\ When we get new codes?

I think you can find the answer in the very first post in this thread: Probably early next year since they need to determine you total downloads for 2020 first.

« Reply #58 on: September 24, 2020, 06:28 »
+1
Hi Mat,
 I crossed the 5,000 mark yesterday. Any idea when I'll get the code?

Thanks

« Reply #59 on: September 24, 2020, 10:59 »
+2
Hi Mat,
 I crossed the 5,000 mark yesterday. Any idea when I'll get the code?

Thanks

Codes for the 2020 bonus program will be distributed in February, 2021. If you have a gap between when your last subscription expired and the distribution of the new code, you will need to pay for the months in between.

Kind regards,

Mat Hayward

« Reply #60 on: September 24, 2020, 13:02 »
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For people shooting a mix of photos and vidoes how do i find these seperately so i can use the weighted sum to get my download count?

5000 downloads is steep, guess I've got my work cut out

« Reply #61 on: September 24, 2020, 19:21 »
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For people shooting a mix of photos and vidoes how do i find these seperately so i can use the weighted sum to get my download count?

5000 downloads is steep, guess I've got my work cut out

5,000 is definitely an achievable goal but will take effort for sure. Unfortunately, there is no way to filter by asset type in the statistics at this time.

-Mat


« Reply #63 on: December 01, 2020, 03:43 »
+1
Hi Everyone,

A friendly reminder in case you have met the download requirement to qualify for the bonus program using old content, but you haven't submitted any new content in 2020, you will not be receiving a bonus code.

The bonus is only available for "active" contributors. To be considered active, you must have uploaded (and had approved) at least two files in 2020. You've got about a month left to make it happen so get busy!

In case you missed the link with details on the bonus program before, here you go: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/royalty-details.html

Cheers!

Mat Hayward

Two files you said? Oh well, I guess I'll need to roll up my sleeves and get my hands dirty again...


 

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