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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2022, 11:18 »
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Thank you Matt!
I have to say that this last year was absolutely good at Adobe, sales are growing up and the free section had without doubt no negative impact in my sales.
I can understand someone is angry for the new video subscription offer, I see it in the other thread, but... I think that's the market. And also I can't see any other agency so clear and respectful while talking to contributors.
Many thanks

MxR

« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2022, 11:28 »
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How do I make it so that the ones that were free last year are not renewed? I do not want to add anything to free and I do not want the old photos that I put free a year ago to be free another year

« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2022, 11:52 »
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The Photos which were for free in 2022 and Adobe wants to keep them for free in 2023: Do contributors get another time 5 USD per image?
Credit = USD?

« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2022, 12:29 »
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Oh boy... it can bring me 245 euros if I nominate them all, and if they all get chosen. Tempting, but I am definitely not gonna give away my best sellers.
I am pretty sure some of the photos nominated wouldnt make 5 euros across all agencies in one year, maybe even in few years, but one probably needs to think about
it in such a way, that the photos involved are pretty much finished when it comes to sales after the free collection period expires, and that will probably apply also to sales on other agencies. If I can ask you people, how were your photos from free collection doing on other agencies?
I only had a handful last year because my port was (and kind of still is) small, so I dont have any relevant data.

« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2022, 12:36 »
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How do I make it so that the ones that were free last year are not renewed? I do not want to add anything to free and I do not want the old photos that I put free a year ago to be free another year

If you do not want to participate again @MxR then no action is required on your part. You must opt-in to nominate your eligible photos. That includes anything that is currently available in the Free collection. Please note that next year (2023) this will be different.

-Mat Hayward

« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2022, 12:37 »
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The Photos which were for free in 2022 and Adobe wants to keep them for free in 2023: Do contributors get another time 5 USD per image?
Credit = USD?

In the 'fine print'...

Adobe will have the right to keep your content in the free collection for additional 12-month periods, subject to (1) giving you notice and an opportunity to opt out and (2) paying you an upfront payment for each additional 12-month period that your content stays in the free collection.

« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2022, 12:38 »
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The Photos which were for free in 2022 and Adobe wants to keep them for free in 2023: Do contributors get another time 5 USD per image?
Credit = USD?

Yes, if you are paid in USD in your Adobe Stock contributor account, then you will be paid $5 USD for each photo approved for the Free collection this year. That includes photos that were approved last year and are currently in the Free collection.

Thanks for the question,

Mat Hayward

« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2022, 12:40 »
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The Photos which were for free in 2022 and Adobe wants to keep them for free in 2023: Do contributors get another time 5 USD per image?
Credit = USD?

In the 'fine print'...

Adobe will have the right to keep your content in the free collection for additional 12-month periods, subject to (1) giving you notice and an opportunity to opt out and (2) paying you an upfront payment for each additional 12-month period that your content stays in the free collection.

Yes, I've called this out specifically in most, if not all of my announcement posts. The updated addendum will allow for content in the Free collection at this time next year to be automatically nominated for the Free collection again. You will have the opportunity to opt out if you so choose. If the files are approved again for the Free collection, you would receive an additional payment.

Please be sure to let me know if you have any additional questions about this.

Thank you,

Mat Hayward

SVH

« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2022, 12:46 »
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The Photos which were for free in 2022 and Adobe wants to keep them for free in 2023: Do contributors get another time 5 USD per image?
Credit = USD?

In the 'fine print'...

Adobe will have the right to keep your content in the free collection for additional 12-month periods, subject to (1) giving you notice and an opportunity to opt out and (2) paying you an upfront payment for each additional 12-month period that your content stays in the free collection.

Yes, I've called this out specifically in most, if not all of my announcement posts. The updated addendum will allow for content in the Free collection at this time next year to be automatically nominated for the Free collection again. You will have the opportunity to opt out if you so choose. If the files are approved again for the Free collection, you would receive an additional payment.

Please be sure to let me know if you have any additional questions about this.

Thank you,

Mat Hayward
There seems no possibility to denominate a photo (or nominate it for that matter) that was in the free collection last year. How to solve that?

Edit: Never mind, I just see that it's now possible to nominate or denominate them as well. Good testing guys, before the release :) But still quick action to fix the bug.
« Last Edit: June 07, 2022, 13:35 by SVH »

SVH

« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2022, 12:49 »
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Oh boy... it can bring me 245 euros if I nominate them all, and if they all get chosen. Tempting, but I am definitely not gonna give away my best sellers.
I am pretty sure some of the photos nominated wouldnt make 5 euros across all agencies in one year, maybe even in few years, but one probably needs to think about
it in such a way, that the photos involved are pretty much finished when it comes to sales after the free collection period expires, and that will probably apply also to sales on other agencies. If I can ask you people, how were your photos from free collection doing on other agencies?
I only had a handful last year because my port was (and kind of still is) small, so I dont have any relevant data.
I think you are right. If the photo doesn't sell anywhere else as well then it might be an interesting offer. If it sells good on other agencies it can become risky to let clients get it for free at Adobe.
So that's how I see it and act on it.

« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2022, 12:52 »
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« Last Edit: June 07, 2022, 13:03 by Dumc »

« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2022, 13:00 »
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I did a quick check on what was eligible for nomination in my portfolio and I don't understand why items that have been downloaded within the last month and have lots of downloads are eligible.

Last time around, I thought it was only things that hadn't been downloaded in a certain amount of time that were eligible.

I'm not assuming; I checked several against my recent downloads list (by hand I would add; there are no ways to see downloads by date for a given image).

Have the rules for what assets can be included changed this time?

SVH

« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2022, 13:02 »
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I'm just curious, I have 450 files eligible for free collection, but I'm pretty sure, I have more photos than that? How are eligible files selected?
Last year they selected photos that have had downloads but not more then three or something like that. Although this time around I have photos that did not have a download and was still selected.

« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2022, 13:03 »
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Hello, can you tell me if there's a way to select the images we'd like to nominate versus nominating all eligible assets? It says we can adjust individual files until the 23rd and I just wanted to make sure before I click on it that there's a way to deselect some images. Thanks so much.

« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2022, 13:18 »
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only an extension of last year's files (and only photos in my case) .. not one uploaded this year, for example?
« Last Edit: June 07, 2022, 13:22 by biibii »

wds

« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2022, 13:27 »
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I did a quick check on what was eligible for nomination in my portfolio and I don't understand why items that have been downloaded within the last month and have lots of downloads are eligible.

Last time around, I thought it was only things that hadn't been downloaded in a certain amount of time that were eligible.

I'm not assuming; I checked several against my recent downloads list (by hand I would add; there are no ways to see downloads by date for a given image).

Have the rules for what assets can be included changed this time?

Yes, seems strange. Some pretty good sellers are eligible.

« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2022, 13:29 »
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...If I can ask you people, how were your photos from free collection doing on other agencies?
I only had a handful last year because my port was (and kind of still is) small, so I dont have any relevant data.

impossible to say for sure, esp'ly with large portfolios - you're asking for proof of a negative.  how would you measure any influence when there are so many other factors involved? and when sales at other agencies are falling for other reasons & and sales of almost any particular image are random.

meanwhile, many of us have long maintained that sales at one agency don't affect those at other agencies & no one has offered evidence to the contrary
« Last Edit: June 07, 2022, 18:40 by cascoly »

MxR

« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2022, 13:42 »
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How do I make it so that the ones that were free last year are not renewed? I do not want to add anything to free and I do not want the old photos that I put free a year ago to be free another year



If you do not want to participate again @MxR then no action is required on your part. You must opt-in to nominate your eligible photos. That includes anything that is currently available in the Free collection. Please note that next year (2023) this will be different.

-Mat Hayward

Thanks Matt, when I first saw the photos that were already free from the previous year I didn't see the select free tab

« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2022, 13:46 »
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Thank you! If all mine are chosen (but I know they won't be based on last year's experience), I'd get a little over $7,000. My sales never suffered last year and I'm nominating all of them. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush...

wds

« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2022, 13:52 »
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This may have been asked already, but do the download numbers in the assets that have been free for the last year reflect all downloads or only payed downloads?

« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2022, 13:56 »
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This may have been asked already, but do the download numbers in the assets that have been free for the last year reflect all downloads or only payed downloads?

If you look at Adobe's FAQ they say that you can't see how many downloads an asset in the free section has, so I have to assume that any numbers you see are paid downloads.

« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2022, 14:38 »
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I did a quick check on what was eligible for nomination in my portfolio and I don't understand why items that have been downloaded within the last month and have lots of downloads are eligible.

Last time around, I thought it was only things that hadn't been downloaded in a certain amount of time that were eligible.

I'm not assuming; I checked several against my recent downloads list (by hand I would add; there are no ways to see downloads by date for a given image).

Have the rules for what assets can be included changed this time?

This is still the same Jo Ann. If a file was a top seller in the past 12 months it would not be eligible for nomination. In my account, I have some files eligible with hundreds of downloads in the lifetime of the image, but only a couple in the past year. The files that are eligible for nomination were determined last week, so it's likely there will be a few odd exceptions in which an image went on a download spree the past week and is still available for nomination. Please know that in those rare cases, when the nomination process is complete and the final selections are being made, those images will not be accepted. It's not in any of our best interest to pull content from the paid collection if it is trending towards consistent sales.

If you have a file or files, Jo Ann that seem to not align with what I just wrote, please send me an email with the specific file numbers and I'll look up their sales history to check them out.

Thank you,

Mat Hayward

« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2022, 14:40 »
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Hello, can you tell me if there's a way to select the images we'd like to nominate versus nominating all eligible assets? It says we can adjust individual files until the 23rd and I just wanted to make sure before I click on it that there's a way to deselect some images. Thanks so much.

Sure thing, Xirae. You can do it one of two ways. If you think you'll be nominating most eligible files, I recommend you click to nominate them all and then go through your dashboard and deselect those you do not want to include.

If you think you will be nominating a minority of what is eligible, then the process will likely be quicker to go through and click to nominate the individual files.

Let me know if you have any additional questions about this.

Thanks,

Mat Hayward

« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2022, 14:42 »
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This may have been asked already, but do the download numbers in the assets that have been free for the last year reflect all downloads or only payed downloads?

Only paid downloads are reflected in your portal statistics @wds. Downloads from the Free collection are not counted in the portal.

Thanks for the question,

Mat Hayward

« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2022, 14:43 »
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Matt,
Will selected assets count as sales towards getting a free subscription? 

« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2022, 14:44 »
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Matt,
Will selected assets count as sales towards getting a free subscription?

Good question, but no. Downloads in the Free collection do not count toward your statistics.

-Mat Hayward

« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2022, 15:17 »
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Matt,
Will selected assets count as sales towards getting a free subscription?

Good question, but no. Downloads in the Free collection do not count toward your statistics.

-Mat Hayward

Not even the initial $5 sale to Adobe? It would certainly serve as a great incentive to submit more to the free collection. I submitted only a small portion of those selected. I would submit more knowing they count for at least one sale.   

« Reply #28 on: June 07, 2022, 15:59 »
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Looks that we are not getting bonus for subscription anymore so it doesn't really matter.

« Reply #29 on: June 07, 2022, 16:48 »
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Happy to see that my eligible images have increased by around 50% over last year. Hopefully those accepted will also increase by 50%.

zeljkok

  • Non Linear Existence
« Reply #30 on: June 07, 2022, 17:06 »
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[Downloads in the Free collection do not count toward your statistics.

-Mat Hayward

That would be my suggestion for improvement.  Of course, free DLs should not count towards free subscription, but it would be helpful to know the stats.   I.e  I nominated photo last yr, got 5 credits,  and now I see that photo had 10 free DLs over last 12 months.  So maybe I would not re-nominate same photo this time around estimating it has potential to earn more as "not free".  On the other side,  photo with 0-5 DLs in free collection is probably good candidate for re-nomination.


« Reply #31 on: June 07, 2022, 17:34 »
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I think it helps with visibility, so I nominated a few.

« Reply #32 on: June 07, 2022, 18:44 »
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.... but it would be helpful to know the stats.   I.e  I nominated photo last yr, got 5 credits,  and now I see that photo had 10 free DLs over last 12 months.  So maybe I would not re-nominate same photo this time around estimating it has potential to earn more as "not free".....

you're assuming that 10 free DL would have translated to 10 paid DL

zeljkok

  • Non Linear Existence
« Reply #33 on: June 07, 2022, 20:03 »
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you're assuming that 10 free DL would have translated to 10 paid DL

Yes, and that is big 'if'.  But it would give insight how certain assets are doing & help decide if they can make more than 5 dollars over 12 months

« Reply #34 on: June 08, 2022, 02:34 »
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Is it for photos only?or also for illustration and vector?

« Reply #35 on: June 08, 2022, 05:25 »
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I did a quick check on what was eligible for nomination in my portfolio and I don't understand why items that have been downloaded within the last month and have lots of downloads are eligible.

Last time around, I thought it was only things that hadn't been downloaded in a certain amount of time that were eligible.

I'm not assuming; I checked several against my recent downloads list (by hand I would add; there are no ways to see downloads by date for a given image).

Have the rules for what assets can be included changed this time?

This is still the same Jo Ann. If a file was a top seller in the past 12 months it would not be eligible for nomination. In my account, I have some files eligible with hundreds of downloads in the lifetime of the image, but only a couple in the past year. The files that are eligible for nomination were determined last week, so it's likely there will be a few odd exceptions in which an image went on a download spree the past week and is still available for nomination. Please know that in those rare cases, when the nomination process is complete and the final selections are being made, those images will not be accepted. It's not in any of our best interest to pull content from the paid collection if it is trending towards consistent sales.

If you have a file or files, Jo Ann that seem to not align with what I just wrote, please send me an email with the specific file numbers and I'll look up their sales history to check them out.

Thank you,

Mat Hayward

Hi Mat,

several of my eligable files were only uploaded this year (2022), so they werent even online for 12 months... I dont remember that being the case last year. So, did the rules (4 or less sales withing the last 12 months) change after all?

« Reply #36 on: June 08, 2022, 05:38 »
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Thanks so much for clarifying, Mat.  :)

« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2022, 06:56 »
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Wasn't the last time a counter that showed you how many files you've selected?

wds

« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2022, 07:28 »
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[Downloads in the Free collection do not count toward your statistics.

-Mat Hayward

That would be my suggestion for improvement.  Of course, free DLs should not count towards free subscription, but it would be helpful to know the stats.   I.e  I nominated photo last yr, got 5 credits,  and now I see that photo had 10 free DLs over last 12 months.  So maybe I would not re-nominate same photo this time around estimating it has potential to earn more as "not free".  On the other side,  photo with 0-5 DLs in free collection is probably good candidate for re-nomination.

Where do you see that stats that shows the number of free downloads an asset has gotten?

« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2022, 07:44 »
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So, did the rules (4 or less sales withing the last 12 months) change after all?

There rule absolutely did change. I have images up for selection to the free gallery with just one or even 0 sales and not just a few, but actually several hundreds.

« Reply #40 on: June 08, 2022, 09:19 »
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So, did the rules (4 or less sales withing the last 12 months) change after all?

There rule absolutely did change. I have images up for selection to the free gallery with just one or even 0 sales and not just a few, but actually several hundreds.

Hi Firn,

Can you confirm if they had several hundred downloads in the past 12 months? Most likely, as in my account, the vast majority of those downloads happened more than a year ago. If I'm mistaken, please email me the file number(s) directly so I can take a look: [email protected]

Thanks,

Mat Hayward

« Reply #41 on: June 08, 2022, 09:20 »
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[Downloads in the Free collection do not count toward your statistics.

-Mat Hayward

That would be my suggestion for improvement.  Of course, free DLs should not count towards free subscription, but it would be helpful to know the stats.   I.e  I nominated photo last yr, got 5 credits,  and now I see that photo had 10 free DLs over last 12 months.  So maybe I would not re-nominate same photo this time around estimating it has potential to earn more as "not free".  On the other side,  photo with 0-5 DLs in free collection is probably good candidate for re-nomination.

Where do you see that stats that shows the number of free downloads an asset has gotten?

Download statistics from the Free collection are not available.

-Mat Hayward

« Reply #42 on: June 08, 2022, 09:21 »
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I did a quick check on what was eligible for nomination in my portfolio and I don't understand why items that have been downloaded within the last month and have lots of downloads are eligible.

Last time around, I thought it was only things that hadn't been downloaded in a certain amount of time that were eligible.

I'm not assuming; I checked several against my recent downloads list (by hand I would add; there are no ways to see downloads by date for a given image).

Have the rules for what assets can be included changed this time?

This is still the same Jo Ann. If a file was a top seller in the past 12 months it would not be eligible for nomination. In my account, I have some files eligible with hundreds of downloads in the lifetime of the image, but only a couple in the past year. The files that are eligible for nomination were determined last week, so it's likely there will be a few odd exceptions in which an image went on a download spree the past week and is still available for nomination. Please know that in those rare cases, when the nomination process is complete and the final selections are being made, those images will not be accepted. It's not in any of our best interest to pull content from the paid collection if it is trending towards consistent sales.

If you have a file or files, Jo Ann that seem to not align with what I just wrote, please send me an email with the specific file numbers and I'll look up their sales history to check them out.

Thank you,

Mat Hayward

Hi Mat,

several of my eligable files were only uploaded this year (2022), so they werent even online for 12 months... I dont remember that being the case last year. So, did the rules (4 or less sales withing the last 12 months) change after all?

No changes in the selection process that I am aware of. Do those new files have a large number of downloads?

-Mat Hayward

« Reply #43 on: June 08, 2022, 09:40 »
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So, did the rules (4 or less sales withing the last 12 months) change after all?

There rule absolutely did change. I have images up for selection to the free gallery with just one or even 0 sales and not just a few, but actually several hundreds.

Hi Firn,

Can you confirm if they had several hundred downloads in the past 12 months? Most likely, as in my account, the vast majority of those downloads happened more than a year ago. If I'm mistaken, please email me the file number(s) directly so I can take a look: [email protected]

Thanks,

Mat Hayward

No, Mat, you misunderstood, or maybe I worded it poorly, sorry: I meant that I have several hundred images up for selection that only had one download or no download at all. And last year no imges with zero downloads were nominated,  but are nominated now, so something has changed in the nomination process, at least for me.

« Reply #44 on: June 08, 2022, 10:56 »
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So, did the rules (4 or less sales withing the last 12 months) change after all?

There rule absolutely did change. I have images up for selection to the free gallery with just one or even 0 sales and not just a few, but actually several hundreds.

Hi Firn,

Can you confirm if they had several hundred downloads in the past 12 months? Most likely, as in my account, the vast majority of those downloads happened more than a year ago. If I'm mistaken, please email me the file number(s) directly so I can take a look: [email protected]

Thanks,

Mat Hayward

No, Mat, you misunderstood, or maybe I worded it poorly, sorry: I meant that I have several hundred images up for selection that only had one download or no download at all. And last year no imges with zero downloads were nominated,  but are nominated now, so something has changed in the nomination process, at least for me.

Oh, got it. I don't know what the exact criteria is to qualify other than they cannot be assets with good sales in the past 12 months. It sounds like your eligible files meet that criteria.

-Mat Hayward

« Reply #45 on: June 08, 2022, 11:57 »
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photos selected only. will there be a selection round-2 again?

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Oh, got it. I don't know what the exact criteria is to qualify other than they cannot be assets with good sales in the past 12 months. It sounds like your eligible files meet that criteria.
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SVH

« Reply #46 on: June 08, 2022, 12:10 »
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So, did the rules (4 or less sales withing the last 12 months) change after all?

There rule absolutely did change. I have images up for selection to the free gallery with just one or even 0 sales and not just a few, but actually several hundreds.

Hi Firn,

Can you confirm if they had several hundred downloads in the past 12 months? Most likely, as in my account, the vast majority of those downloads happened more than a year ago. If I'm mistaken, please email me the file number(s) directly so I can take a look: [email protected]

Thanks,

Mat Hayward

No, Mat, you misunderstood, or maybe I worded it poorly, sorry: I meant that I have several hundred images up for selection that only had one download or no download at all. And last year no imges with zero downloads were nominated,  but are nominated now, so something has changed in the nomination process, at least for me.

Oh, got it. I don't know what the exact criteria is to qualify other than they cannot be assets with good sales in the past 12 months. It sounds like your eligible files meet that criteria.

-Mat Hayward

I think it's strange to that photos without any downloads are being nominated. How is Adobe deciding that a photo without any download is nominable?
Did we miss a sale or does Adobe see lots of views (which we don't know of) that would make the photo interesting for their free collection?
« Last Edit: June 08, 2022, 12:25 by SVH »

« Reply #47 on: June 08, 2022, 12:18 »
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...I have images up for selection to the free gallery with just one or even 0 sales and not just a few, but actually several hundreds.
... I meant that I have several hundred images up for selection that only had one download or no download at all. And last year no imges with zero downloads were nominated,  but are nominated now, so something has changed in the nomination process, at least for me.

I have a few 0 download images that are eligible for nomination and I can't guess why they would be included - not uploaded in the past year. Most 0 download images are not included.

I have two recently uploaded images, each with 2 downloads. The one uploaded Feb 15th is eligible but the one uploaded March 7th is not.

This has no bearing on my decision - I do not wish to offer my images for free - but I think there are some very odd choices the system has made.

« Reply #48 on: June 08, 2022, 12:19 »
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« Last Edit: June 08, 2022, 12:22 by Dumc »

« Reply #49 on: June 08, 2022, 12:25 »
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Matt,  You confirmed that downloads of free images do not count towards getting a free subscription.   But if I have 100 images accepted and Adobe pays $5 for each of those images, would it count as 100 sales toward a free subscription?

« Reply #50 on: June 08, 2022, 12:25 »
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I did a quick check on what was eligible for nomination in my portfolio and I don't understand why items that have been downloaded within the last month and have lots of downloads are eligible.

Last time around, I thought it was only things that hadn't been downloaded in a certain amount of time that were eligible.

I'm not assuming; I checked several against my recent downloads list (by hand I would add; there are no ways to see downloads by date for a given image).

Have the rules for what assets can be included changed this time?

This is still the same Jo Ann. If a file was a top seller in the past 12 months it would not be eligible for nomination. In my account, I have some files eligible with hundreds of downloads in the lifetime of the image, but only a couple in the past year. The files that are eligible for nomination were determined last week, so it's likely there will be a few odd exceptions in which an image went on a download spree the past week and is still available for nomination. Please know that in those rare cases, when the nomination process is complete and the final selections are being made, those images will not be accepted. It's not in any of our best interest to pull content from the paid collection if it is trending towards consistent sales.

If you have a file or files, Jo Ann that seem to not align with what I just wrote, please send me an email with the specific file numbers and I'll look up their sales history to check them out.

Thank you,

Mat Hayward

Hi Mat,

several of my eligable files were only uploaded this year (2022), so they werent even online for 12 months... I dont remember that being the case last year. So, did the rules (4 or less sales withing the last 12 months) change after all?

No changes in the selection process that I am aware of. Do those new files have a large number of downloads?

-Mat Hayward

No, they have less than 4 downloads - but they are only online 5 months or less. I was under the impression that they needed to be online at least 1 year to be eligable.

« Reply #51 on: June 08, 2022, 13:35 »
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Matt,  You confirmed that downloads of free images do not count towards getting a free subscription.   But if I have 100 images accepted and Adobe pays $5 for each of those images, would it count as 100 sales toward a free subscription?

No, the Free program has no connection to the bonus program in any way.

Thanks,

Mat Hayward

Me


« Reply #52 on: June 09, 2022, 03:48 »
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Matt,  You confirmed that downloads of free images do not count towards getting a free subscription.   But if I have 100 images accepted and Adobe pays $5 for each of those images, would it count as 100 sales toward a free subscription?

If you get $500 use that to pay for the annual sub

« Reply #53 on: June 09, 2022, 03:53 »
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First of all, I would like to thank Mat for the good information and communication. I appreciate it very much!

Nevertheless, the alarm bells generally go off when I read the word "free". Because in my view, it triggers completely the wrong thoughts in the minds of customers.

I have 1,485 files at AS.

For the free collection, 160 files are eligible - just under 11% of all my files. So if all 160 files were selected by Adobe, I could - theoretically - get $800. However, probably only a small portion of them would be selected. I don't know, of course, but it would bring maybe $200 if I released the images for the free collection.

My RPD at AS is $1.17.
Of the 160 files, there is not one with 0 downloads. The image with the most downloads has been purchased 115 times. Together, the 160 images have sold 865 times so far (which is actually 2% of my total downloads - so AS picked really poorly performing images). The revenue for the 160 images so far is $1,012 - calculation based on my average RPD. From May 08 to June 08, these images brought $41.50. If I extrapolate that, I come up with $500 in a year for these files.

One should really think about whether this is worth it, from my point of view. Especially since a couple of the images suggested by AS have counterparts in my portfolio that might not get bought then either. And some of the images are doing quite well at other agencies. Maybe they would not be bought there anymore, if they are available for free at AS.
« Last Edit: June 09, 2022, 08:41 by Wilm »

SVH

« Reply #54 on: June 09, 2022, 06:43 »
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@Mat,
Three final questions if I may:
1) How come some photos without any downloads are eligible?
2) How come some photos that were recently uploaded are eligible?
3) In the addendum in point 10 it says:
"For Works first placed in the Free Collection after the Effective Date: before a Free Period expires, Adobe will give you prior notice and an opportunity to opt-out of including Works in the Free Collection during the next Renewal Period;"
Does this mean that Adobe can keep it in the free collection as long as you do not fully opt-out of the free collection or are we still able to select and de-select individual photos that have been in the free collection in the previous period? Because I read it as you can only fully opt-out if you do not want a certain photo to be in the free collection anymore after the period expires.

« Reply #55 on: June 09, 2022, 10:03 »
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@Mat,
Three final questions if I may:
1) How come some photos without any downloads are eligible?
2) How come some photos that were recently uploaded are eligible?
3) In the addendum in point 10 it says:
"For Works first placed in the Free Collection after the Effective Date: before a Free Period expires, Adobe will give you prior notice and an opportunity to opt-out of including Works in the Free Collection during the next Renewal Period;"
Does this mean that Adobe can keep it in the free collection as long as you do not fully opt-out of the free collection or are we still able to select and de-select individual photos that have been in the free collection in the previous period? Because I read it as you can only fully opt-out if you do not want a certain photo to be in the free collection anymore after the period expires.

Thanks for the questions. I don't have insight available to share as to the specific selection process for what makes an image eligible or not. That takes care of questions 1 and 2. Sorry, I know it's not what you want to hear, but I dont have any information to share on this and I do not anticipate that changing.

Yes, your interpretation of the updated addendum is correct. If an asset is approved for the Free collection this year, by default it will be opted in for nomination to be considered for the Free collection next year. If approved again, another payment would result automatically. You will have the opportunity to "un-nominate" all or some eligible files for a reasonable time period that will be specified at a later date but unlike this year, that will be a manual process on your end. If you want to keep the files eligible, then no action would be required.

-Mat Hayward 

SVH

« Reply #56 on: June 09, 2022, 10:24 »
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@Mat,
Three final questions if I may:
1) How come some photos without any downloads are eligible?
2) How come some photos that were recently uploaded are eligible?
3) In the addendum in point 10 it says:
"For Works first placed in the Free Collection after the Effective Date: before a Free Period expires, Adobe will give you prior notice and an opportunity to opt-out of including Works in the Free Collection during the next Renewal Period;"
Does this mean that Adobe can keep it in the free collection as long as you do not fully opt-out of the free collection or are we still able to select and de-select individual photos that have been in the free collection in the previous period? Because I read it as you can only fully opt-out if you do not want a certain photo to be in the free collection anymore after the period expires.

Thanks for the questions. I don't have insight available to share as to the specific selection process for what makes an image eligible or not. That takes care of questions 1 and 2. Sorry, I know it's not what you want to hear, but I dont have any information to share on this and I do not anticipate that changing.

Yes, your interpretation of the updated addendum is correct. If an asset is approved for the Free collection this year, by default it will be opted in for nomination to be considered for the Free collection next year. If approved again, another payment would result automatically. You will have the opportunity to "un-nominate" all or some eligible files for a reasonable time period that will be specified at a later date but unlike this year, that will be a manual process on your end. If you want to keep the files eligible, then no action would be required.

-Mat Hayward 

Thanks for the answers. Pitty we cannot have insight and understanding on the first two but they are not so important anyway, just strange.

Just for all clarity because maybe I was not clear.
If I have 100 photos I would nominate now and they all get accepted then next year, by default, they will be nominated again. Which is fine. But let's say I want 90 to continue and 10 not. Will I be able to deselect those 10 images only and let the other 90 go through? Or is my only option, to prevent those 10 photos from going to the free collection again, opting out all together of the free collection? So then none of my images will go to the free collection and none will receive the 5 credit payment.
So, does this sentence: "opportunity to opt-out of including Works in the Free Collection during the next Renewal Period" applies to single/individual photos or the option to make use of this program as a whole?

« Reply #57 on: June 09, 2022, 14:30 »
0
@Mat,
Three final questions if I may:
1) How come some photos without any downloads are eligible?
2) How come some photos that were recently uploaded are eligible?
3) In the addendum in point 10 it says:
"For Works first placed in the Free Collection after the Effective Date: before a Free Period expires, Adobe will give you prior notice and an opportunity to opt-out of including Works in the Free Collection during the next Renewal Period;"
Does this mean that Adobe can keep it in the free collection as long as you do not fully opt-out of the free collection or are we still able to select and de-select individual photos that have been in the free collection in the previous period? Because I read it as you can only fully opt-out if you do not want a certain photo to be in the free collection anymore after the period expires.

Thanks for the questions. I don't have insight available to share as to the specific selection process for what makes an image eligible or not. That takes care of questions 1 and 2. Sorry, I know it's not what you want to hear, but I dont have any information to share on this and I do not anticipate that changing.

Yes, your interpretation of the updated addendum is correct. If an asset is approved for the Free collection this year, by default it will be opted in for nomination to be considered for the Free collection next year. If approved again, another payment would result automatically. You will have the opportunity to "un-nominate" all or some eligible files for a reasonable time period that will be specified at a later date but unlike this year, that will be a manual process on your end. If you want to keep the files eligible, then no action would be required.

-Mat Hayward 

Thanks for the answers. Pitty we cannot have insight and understanding on the first two but they are not so important anyway, just strange.

Just for all clarity because maybe I was not clear.
If I have 100 photos I would nominate now and they all get accepted then next year, by default, they will be nominated again. Which is fine. But let's say I want 90 to continue and 10 not. Will I be able to deselect those 10 images only and let the other 90 go through? Or is my only option, to prevent those 10 photos from going to the free collection again, opting out all together of the free collection? So then none of my images will go to the free collection and none will receive the 5 credit payment.
So, does this sentence: "opportunity to opt-out of including Works in the Free Collection during the next Renewal Period" applies to single/individual photos or the option to make use of this program as a whole?

You would be able to opt out the 10 photos you do not want to be nominated for consideration while leaving the remaining 90 as nominated for consideration.

Thanks,

Mat Hayward

« Reply #58 on: June 09, 2022, 14:40 »
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Dear Mat, thank you. Everything is clear. Have a great day!  ;)

SVH

« Reply #59 on: June 09, 2022, 15:01 »
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You would be able to opt out the 10 photos you do not want to be nominated for consideration while leaving the remaining 90 as nominated for consideration.

Thanks,

Mat Hayward

Thanks again for clearing that up.

« Reply #60 on: June 09, 2022, 18:35 »
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Matt 
A suggestion for consideration. Adobe could introduce free photos for free subscriptions.   In exchange for an X amount of new exclusive accepted submissions, a contributor gets a free subscription.  Adobe becomes the copyrights owner and such photos are not linked to the photographer unless the photographer opts in to have them visible in their portfolio.  20 photos per year seem a fair number to me. 

« Reply #61 on: June 09, 2022, 18:45 »
+1
Matt 
A suggestion for consideration. Adobe could introduce free photos for free subscriptions.   In exchange for an X amount of new exclusive accepted submissions, a contributor gets a free subscription.  Adobe becomes the copyrights owner and such photos are not linked to the photographer unless the photographer opts in to have them visible in their portfolio.  20 photos per year seem a fair number to me.

Thanks for the suggestion. We are not interested in taking over the copyright of the work of photographers however.

Keep in mind, if you have 20 photos approved for Free, we would pay you $100 (assuming you are paid in USD). The cost of the Creative Cloud Photography plan is $9.99 so you could use that $100 to pay for the first 10 months of the subscription. If you had 24 files approved for the Free collection, you could pay for the entire year. This way, the many thousands of contributors who have already received a complimentary Creative Cloud for their successful contribution to Adobe Stock can choose to spend the money they receive on something else.

Thanks again,

Mat Hayward 

« Reply #62 on: June 09, 2022, 21:26 »
+1

Keep in mind, if you have 20 photos approved for Free, we would pay you $100 (assuming you are paid in USD). The cost of the Creative Cloud Photography plan is $9.99 so you could use that $100 to pay for the first 10 months of the subscription. If you had 24 files approved for the Free collection, you could pay for the entire year. This way, the many thousands of contributors who have already received a complimentary Creative Cloud for their successful contribution to Adobe Stock can choose to spend the money they receive on something else.

Thanks again,

Mat Hayward

So does this means there will not be any CC bonus program this year?

« Reply #63 on: June 10, 2022, 09:36 »
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Keep in mind, if you have 20 photos approved for Free, we would pay you $100 (assuming you are paid in USD). The cost of the Creative Cloud Photography plan is $9.99 so you could use that $100 to pay for the first 10 months of the subscription. If you had 24 files approved for the Free collection, you could pay for the entire year. This way, the many thousands of contributors who have already received a complimentary Creative Cloud for their successful contribution to Adobe Stock can choose to spend the money they receive on something else.

Thanks again,

Mat Hayward




I do not like the concept of my assets being available for free and would rather give 20 new ones and keep it a secret.  Assets selected by Adobe have in common that they already sell, on this and or other sites.  With the current selecton process for the free collection, clients who paid for an image and subsequently see it for free, that does not result into happy customers.  By building the free collection from fresh exclusive images, this would be avoided.  If I get paid $500 for 100 images, that is because Adobe will make money also, without taking much risks, they are safe bets. Adobe could take risks with the free collection.
I got free subscriptions and used Adobe during that period.  Last year,
I did not qualify and reverted to using other software. Getting a free subscription served as a great incentive to grow and promote my Adobe portfolio and to use the suite. That made me a defacto brand ambassador.     If I was to buy an Adobe subscription, I would look at the special offers I receive from various sources. Adobe does not have a discount rate for its contributors. Maybe something to consider.

« Reply #64 on: June 10, 2022, 10:04 »
+6

Keep in mind, if you have 20 photos approved for Free, we would pay you $100 (assuming you are paid in USD). The cost of the Creative Cloud Photography plan is $9.99 so you could use that $100 to pay for the first 10 months of the subscription. If you had 24 files approved for the Free collection, you could pay for the entire year. This way, the many thousands of contributors who have already received a complimentary Creative Cloud for their successful contribution to Adobe Stock can choose to spend the money they receive on something else.

Thanks again,

Mat Hayward

So does this means there will not be any CC bonus program this year?

That's not at all what he said.

« Reply #65 on: June 10, 2022, 12:59 »
+1
That's not at all what he said.

No... he said that we can spend our money on CC, among other things. Truly enlightening.

« Reply #66 on: June 11, 2022, 10:55 »
+1

Keep in mind, if you have 20 photos approved for Free, we would pay you $100 (assuming you are paid in USD). The cost of the Creative Cloud Photography plan is $9.99 so you could use that $100 to pay for the first 10 months of the subscription. If you had 24 files approved for the Free collection, you could pay for the entire year. This way, the many thousands of contributors who have already received a complimentary Creative Cloud for their successful contribution to Adobe Stock can choose to spend the money they receive on something else.

Thanks again,

Mat Hayward

So does this means there will not be any CC bonus program this year?

I don't have any information on a 2022 bonus program available yet. As soon as I do, I'll be posting in MSG for sure.

Thanks,

Mat Hayward

« Reply #67 on: June 19, 2022, 02:56 »
+2
Happy to see this coming again. Last year money i got Was real financial help for me and fact that it's basically "renting" assets for a year is really fair offer for contributors. Fact that I'm in control of my own work is refreshing in sea of agencies basically taking advantage of our hard work. I got a lot for my free asset last year and my downloads did not suffer. Adobe is my best performed agency since then. Thank you Adobe for not being greedy towards us like others are.

FiledIMAGE

  • Freelance Photgrapher based in Melbourne Australia

« Reply #68 on: June 22, 2022, 23:12 »
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Its a little hard to judge how much our earnings were affected as hard to compare. Previous years no free images for subscribers. What has happened im sure is Adobe Stock picked up a load of new subscribers. They arent paying $5 out of the kindness of their hearts. I do believe everyone kind of wins here. I only saw sales go up in the last year and I believe Adobe Stock is killing it now. Its a genius plan


« Reply #70 on: June 23, 2022, 12:17 »
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Thanks Mat & Adobe! It's great that there is still one company left that values its contributors.

« Reply #71 on: June 23, 2022, 12:26 »
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Can't wait for results. Last year I got selected 54 from about 600. And my sales haven't suffered at all, I'm making about 30% more this year than last year.  This year I have eligible 451 photos.

One question, will this year also be more waves, or is this one time thing?

« Reply #72 on: June 23, 2022, 13:13 »
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Can't wait for results. Last year I got selected 54 from about 600. And my sales haven't suffered at all, I'm making about 30% more this year than last year.  This year I have eligible 451 photos.

One question, will this year also be more waves, or is this one time thing?

I can't say for sure right now with photos. I expect another wave with vector files down the road when the 12 month anniversary comes up for those. I'll be sure to post information when I have it available.

Thanks,

Mat

« Reply #73 on: Today at 03:57 »
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Matt, when can we expect the first batch to be approved? This month's sales is down the drain and some extra funds would be great to begin the summer slump.


 

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