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« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2021, 06:22 »
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10 this time, up from 5, out 200 or so nominated.


« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2021, 12:49 »
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That was a very large second wave - total in the free section is 574,566 items, 529,156 of which are photos

July 16th, the total was just over 319k

Most of the other asset types stayed nearly the same as in July.

The quality is excellent - putting a Customer hat on I wouldn't see anything different from the main collection.

At the beginning, the stated approach was breadth, not depth, but with such a large free collection, the depth has noticeably increased (based on some test searches I did)

I hesitate to ask, because today's answer might be different in the future, but is there any notion of a maximum size of this collection?

All for $5

Not career building for sure, but great for corporate profit.


« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2021, 13:04 »
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Any via Wirestock already?

« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2021, 13:08 »
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There is no wirestock

« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2021, 13:32 »
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Mediocre photos now have a new chance. I think this is a good offer. Thanks Mat & Adobe!  :)

« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2021, 13:52 »
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Nothing in the first wave and 4 in the second wave. $20 gain.

« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2021, 03:23 »
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All good, I got $$$ and I'm satisfied. Thank you Adobe!

« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2021, 05:26 »
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Any news about Vectors ? not yet ?

« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2021, 10:39 »
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44 first wave, 80 second wave, I feels quite happy about that

« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2021, 11:07 »
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I had 39 the first time and 55 the second time so I am happy for those numbers :)

« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2021, 13:22 »
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20 first time 62 this time

« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2021, 14:21 »
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omg.. too many, killing the regular sales for sure. first i thought it is a good idea, now it`s horrible..

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That was a very large second wave - total in the free section is 574,566 items, 529,156 of which are photos

July 16th, the total was just over 319k

Most of the other asset types stayed nearly the same as in July.

The quality is excellent - putting a Customer hat on I wouldn't see anything different from the main collection.

At the beginning, the stated approach was breadth, not depth, but with such a large free collection, the depth has noticeably increased (based on some test searches I did)

I hesitate to ask, because today's answer might be different in the future, but is there any notion of a maximum size of this collection?

All for $5

Not career building for sure, but great for corporate profit.

« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2021, 14:24 »
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Data to prove it is killing your sales? 

« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2021, 17:39 »
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Data to prove it is killing your sales?

I have not seen any sign that it's killing my sales. I actually think they're up since my first free "nominees" were accepted.
« Last Edit: August 12, 2021, 17:43 by marthamarks »

« Reply #39 on: August 12, 2021, 18:00 »
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Data to prove it is killing your sales?

I have not seen any sign that it's killing my sales. I actually think they're up since my first free "nominees" were accepted.

same here. Most of my selected free images were fading away anyway thus didn't hurt my new sales.

« Reply #40 on: August 13, 2021, 01:48 »
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to prove what will happen in the near future? no, how could i?
Data to prove it is killing your sales?

« Reply #41 on: August 13, 2021, 08:55 »
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to prove what will happen in the near future? no, how could i?
Data to prove it is killing your sales?

without factual data there is no proof. Selling off our non selling images for 12 months should not kill our sales. If the selected image was sold permanently than maybe and that's a maybe at best.  I've sold images on Dreamstime, some of my best sellers, for $500 accepting the risk of future income on that particular image.

« Reply #42 on: August 13, 2021, 10:12 »
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without factual data there is no proof.

That's if you only want to rely on empirical data, without trying to understand the medium/long-term logical consequences of these actions. We can safely predict that the night follows day, without having to wait for the dark.  ;)

Such a large collection of good quality free assets is rather likely to deter buyers from buying more stuff, instead of stimulating them to buy more.
That's because nothing beats free, especially when the quality is sufficient for the purpose.

So when your work is offered for free, even if you got your precious $5, you will kill potential sales not necessarily from you, but rather from your fellow contributors who are competing in the same category.
In return, their free stuff will kill your sales in other categories, very likely beyond your precious $5.

The bigger this collection becomes, the bigger the losses will be for the contributor's community.

Too bad that many of us are wearing horse blinders, seeing only a narrow and individual short-term interest, instead of seeing how fast we are cutting the branch we all are sitting on!
« Last Edit: August 13, 2021, 11:41 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #43 on: August 13, 2021, 10:30 »
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without factual data there is no proof.

That's if you only want to rely on empirical data, without trying to understand the medium/long-term logical consequences of these actions. We can safely predict that the night follows day, without having to wait for the dark.  ;)

Such a large collection of good quality free assets is rather likely to deter buyers from buying more stuff, instead of stimulating them to buy more.
That's because nothing beats free, especially when the quality is sufficient for the purpose.

So when your work is offered for free, even if you got your precious $5, you will kill potential sales not necessarily from you, but rather from your fellow contributors who are competing in the same category.
In return, their free stuff will kill your sales in other categories, very likely beyond your precious $5.

The bigger this collection becomes, the bigger the losses will be for the contributor's community.

Too bad that many of us are wearing horse blinders, seeing only their narrow and individual short-term interest, instead of seeing how fast we are cutting the branch we all are sitting on!

okay, say you're right. Wouldn't this kill Adobe as well? For Adobe to do the second wave they must have seen their sales (not free) go up as well right?

« Reply #44 on: August 13, 2021, 10:32 »
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I agree 100% with Zero Talent. The free image collections will kill this industry in long term.

For Real, selling stock images is not the main source of income, they sell software.

« Reply #45 on: August 13, 2021, 10:42 »
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without factual data there is no proof.

That's if you only want to rely on empirical data, without trying to understand the medium/long-term logical consequences of these actions. We can safely predict that the night follows day, without having to wait for the dark.  ;)

Such a large collection of good quality free assets is rather likely to deter buyers from buying more stuff, instead of stimulating them to buy more.
That's because nothing beats free, especially when the quality is sufficient for the purpose.

So when your work is offered for free, even if you got your precious $5, you will kill potential sales not necessarily from you, but rather from your fellow contributors who are competing in the same category.
In return, their free stuff will kill your sales in other categories, very likely beyond your precious $5.

The bigger this collection becomes, the bigger the losses will be for the contributor's community.

Too bad that many of us are wearing horse blinders, seeing only their narrow and individual short-term interest, instead of seeing how fast we are cutting the branch we all are sitting on!

okay, say you're right. Wouldn't this kill Adobe as well? For Adobe to do the second wave they must have seen their sales (not free) go up as well right?

Adobe is gambling with our (future) money. It's rather likely that they will also be losing money, indeed.
Rest assured that other sites will have no option left but to compete against Adobe, offering even more stuff for free, thus hurting Adobe, the same way we are hurting each other at the contributor's level (instead of competing fairly)

The vicious circle will continue, now that Pandora's box is open.
« Last Edit: August 13, 2021, 10:51 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #46 on: August 13, 2021, 12:49 »
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without factual data there is no proof.

That's if you only want to rely on empirical data, without trying to understand the medium/long-term logical consequences of these actions. We can safely predict that the night follows day, without having to wait for the dark.  ;)

Such a large collection of good quality free assets is rather likely to deter buyers from buying more stuff, instead of stimulating them to buy more.
That's because nothing beats free, especially when the quality is sufficient for the purpose.

So when your work is offered for free, even if you got your precious $5, you will kill potential sales not necessarily from you, but rather from your fellow contributors who are competing in the same category.
In return, their free stuff will kill your sales in other categories, very likely beyond your precious $5.

The bigger this collection becomes, the bigger the losses will be for the contributor's community.

Too bad that many of us are wearing horse blinders, seeing only their narrow and individual short-term interest, instead of seeing how fast we are cutting the branch we all are sitting on!

okay, say you're right. Wouldn't this kill Adobe as well? For Adobe to do the second wave they must have seen their sales (not free) go up as well right?

Adobe is gambling with our (future) money. It's rather likely that they will also be losing money, indeed.
Rest assured that other sites will have no option left but to compete against Adobe, offering even more stuff for free, thus hurting Adobe, the same way we are hurting each other at the contributor's level (instead of competing fairly)

The vicious circle will continue, now that Pandora's box is open.

Adobe is not gambling with your future at all. They are a corporation motivated by profit. However any small expendable minion that gives away work for next to nothing is guaranteeing their extinction. I am perplexed why so many are jumping for joy to give their work away for next to nothing to promote a corporation.


« Reply #47 on: August 13, 2021, 15:17 »
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I agree 100% with Zero Talent. The free image collections will kill this industry in long term.

For Real, selling stock images is not the main source of income, they sell software.

predicting a future event, as Zero does, is not the same as DECLARING it's killing sales - yet another solecism from Hellou in which someone else is blamed - to even make a case we'd need to know size of portfolio and how many sales over a year or more

and too many are confusing individual returns with the health of an industry - no evidence thus far that offering free images hurt the bottom line.  offering something for free is a long established software tactic - from the days of shareware to winzip, pdf converters and much other software w option to upgrade.  same here - AS is offering free images that are a tiny % of their total library.

for artists, getting $5 for an image that hasn't earned 1/4 that amount in the last year should be a no-brainer (and, of course) up to the individual to choose)
« Last Edit: August 13, 2021, 15:25 by cascoly »

« Reply #48 on: August 13, 2021, 15:27 »
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..., the same way we are hurting each other at the contributor's level (instead of competing fairly)

how is it unfair when competitors all have the chance to opt in/out?

« Reply #49 on: August 13, 2021, 17:49 »
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Adobe is not gambling with your future at all. They are a corporation motivated by profit. However any small expendable minion that gives away work for next to nothing is guaranteeing their extinction. I am perplexed why so many are jumping for joy to give their work away for next to nothing to promote a corporation.

Yes, of course.

What I'm saying is that they hope to earn more than they have invested in these free photos and make a profit. This hope to win by betting that a new model will work, when it goes against common sense logic, can be called gambling.
And I say that our future earnings are gambled, because we give up better future earnigs against petty gains today.


 

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