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« on: February 20, 2008, 15:19 »
Are you participating in this contest? It has 3 days left I guess. Who will win? :D

If I win, o boy, I will buy a new lens. Canon L 200mm f2.8. and maybe new camera - eos 40D, I will sell my 400D.

If not, well... I gues I have those images for sale.... nobody will loose. :)

« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2008, 15:32 »
Ahh, so they've got this stupid contest going where people throw tons of trash and see what sticks.  No wonder they decline every picture of mine, for "type of photograph reasons."  Never got a different type of rejection yet, but they take less than 25% of my shots.  DT takes more than 70% of them.  The few that they do take are typically the ones where I think "well, not my best, but technically sound", whereas when I think, "man, what a great shot" DT takes it, Fotolia declines it for type of shot.  Fotolia really doesn't want any pictures other than isolated objects, background textures, and fake smiling models, do they?  Someone musta forgot that a contest like this will bring in a lot of pictures, hence the need for server storage, thus they just reject everything.  Since shots are generally found on a keyword basis, if server space isn't an issue and people aren't keyword spamming, why is there a point in ever rejecting a photo for type of shot or overabundance.  It doesn't make the dababase better, it just makes it smaller, being harsher technically makes it better, type has little to do with quality.
« Last Edit: February 20, 2008, 15:38 by Waldo4 »

« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2008, 15:45 »
I dont know, they dont want family photos, casual outdoor.... that is not stock photography. They want hi quality smiling models and isolated images, because it sells well. Beautiful landscapes, no matter how beautiful it is will not sell better than for example isolated apple. They accept what they sell the best. They dont want images that wont sell well, whether they are beautiful or not.

Stock photo is not about art, it is about money and commerce, marketing, etc...

 As sooner photographers realize that, they will become successfull at stock market. If they dont realize that, well, than, go to some art galery and show off your beautiful images of landscapes, and people will say "whow, that image is beautiful", but I will continue to sell my poor little isolated apple that is not so beautiful as your landscape...

*your and mine terms are just example, I didnt mean on you or me literary! :)
« Last Edit: February 20, 2008, 15:50 by Chode »

« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2008, 15:57 »
I can tell from my own expirience, last summer, I was on vacation in Switzerland. Beautiful country. I made about 200 stock-like beautiful images. 100 accepted. For 6 months I sold about 4-5 images from that series.... that tells you smething.

On the other hand, I made over 100$ in 1 month on one single series (30 images), some isolated stuff....

That's why they reject images that are not true stock photography.
« Last Edit: February 20, 2008, 16:10 by Chode »

« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2008, 16:11 »
As an example, I tried with a shot of a stone lantern in a japanese garden, great shot, really screams relaxation in the way it was shot and processed.   They have some roughly similar shots in their database, 11 to be exact,  presented similar with regards to setting, though comp, angle, and style is different for each, mine would have stood out among them.  All but 2 have sold at least once.  Yet they have more than 1000 images of an isolated apple, less than half have sold once.  In fact a search for "isolated apple" yields more than 4x as many hits as "dahlia."  Seems that they don't need any more isolated apples.

I know I'd never get a Dahlia accepted, but they lack a single tagged shot of a semi-cactus Dahlia (flower shape), an "Arabian Nights" Dahlia, or a "Karma Sangria" Dahlia, well known cultivars.  If I was a designer and wanted a Dahlia shot (typically the people that would use them know their flowers), these are things that I would search for, not just generic Dahlia and waste hours hunting for the one I wanted.

Not that I'm a big flower shooter, just proving a point.  My fave topic is even more useless, abstract architecture.  Architects and architecture magazines take their own pictures.

But still, by only accepting certain types, they are not making themselves better, they are limiting their scope to only what sells the best, in essence saying "we don't have the server space for slower selling topics, instead we allocate every bit of it to better selling topics, though the chance that a shot actually sells once is actually less with the better selling topics than the slower selling topics because of overabundance."    With that buisiness mind, they are shutting out new markets of clients, if they become interested in browsing Fotolia's shots and aren't looking for their best selling stuff, they'll be skunked because Fotolia denied away all the photos because of type.  The wooden deck one at request at DT is a funny one.  No way Fotolia will accept some photos of a wooden deck on a house in the means they want it presented, they have 0 in their database and I'm sure that it will stay that way. 
« Last Edit: February 20, 2008, 16:37 by Waldo4 »

« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2008, 16:41 »
apple was only example....

You should know that they do not accept flowers or sunsets anymore (only if it is extraordinary photo), because they have too many of them.

I dont say, maybe your photo was good, maybe they made mistake, but most people (i dont talk about you now) submit some family photos or some snapshots from a street, and then complain about rejection... they even dont know what stock photo really is.

btw, this is not thread about fotolia rejection rate, it is about contest. :)


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