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Just two weeks after crossing the 13 million mark, the genAI collection is now over 14 million - 14,062,823

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on August 10, 2023, 08:02

Just two weeks after crossing the 13 million mark, the genAI collection is now over 14 million - 14,062,823

Amazing! What would be interesting to know is for those selling AI images as stock, how do the $$$ work out? In other words what is the net revenue selling genAI stock vs. the cost of "membership" to the genAI websites?

On Midjourney it's 10$ (minimum) vs whatever you get from Adobe Stock and Dreamstime:
https://www.microstockgroup.com/37744/37744/msg590316/#msg590316

Every time I see some bizarre details and think..oh I will just leave that, nobody will notice...then I think: but wait!

What if Jo Ann finds it??

You are making me a better ai artist...

Quote from: wds on August 10, 2023, 08:26

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on August 10, 2023, 08:02

Just two weeks after crossing the 13 million mark, the genAI collection is now over 14 million - 14,062,823

Amazing! What would be interesting to know is for those selling AI images as stock, how do the $$$ work out? In other words what is the net revenue selling genAI stock vs. the cost of "membership" to the genAI websites?

On Midjourney it's 10$ (minimum) vs whatever you get from Adobe Stock and Dreamstime:
https://www.microstockgroup.com/37744/37744/msg590316/#msg590316

The plan pricing is confusing things like "3 jobs, 10 jobs waiting in queue". How does that translate into things like: "For $10 month, how many images can the user generate?"

Quote from: alijaber on August 10, 2023, 09:25

Quote from: wds on August 10, 2023, 08:26

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on August 10, 2023, 08:02

Just two weeks after crossing the 13 million mark, the genAI collection is now over 14 million - 14,062,823

Amazing! What would be interesting to know is for those selling AI images as stock, how do the $$$ work out? In other words what is the net revenue selling genAI stock vs. the cost of "membership" to the genAI websites?

On Midjourney it's 10$ (minimum) vs whatever you get from Adobe Stock and Dreamstime:
https://www.microstockgroup.com/37744/37744/msg590316/#msg590316

The plan pricing is confusing things like "3 jobs, 10 jobs waiting in queue". How does that translate into things like: "For $10 month, how many images can the user generate?"

You can generate few hundreds, but many of these won't be good enough for licensing.

From what they take or decline I would think this was a human decision. Doesn't look automated to me.

If you look at the stats below the forum we now often have over 2000 people online reading, although often just 20 active, registered users.

It used to be a few hundred, or maybe 500.

I think this is all due to ai. Millions of people trying to learn how to make and sell ai images.

Even if you just have a smartphone, you can be a great "photographer".

Can't blame them for trying.

They will soon realise that working with stock agencies is not as simple as the youtubers make it sound.

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on August 10, 2023, 08:02

Just two weeks after crossing the 13 million mark, the genAI collection is now over 14 million - 14,062,823

Amazing! What would be interesting to know is for those selling AI images as stock, how do the $$$ work out? In other words what is the net revenue selling genAI stock vs. the cost of "membership" to the genAI websites?

The content sells like any other content.

If you create something from a needed niche with the help of ai it sells just as great as if you had done a regular shoot.

If you upload stuff noone needs, you have no sales.

I have 637 accepted ai files on Adobe and 129 downloads. Made 114.83 USD so far with an rpd of .89. Most files have only sold once and only 1 file has more than 5 sales. None have 10. So no real bestsellers (yet).

But I have paid over 2000 dollars in credits for ai use (not using midjourney). Expect to reach 3k by end of the year. Includes 600 dollars from the last 4 years when I was just prompting for fun.

Next year I should spend a lot less, because my prompting is a lot better and because the prices to use ai commercially are coming down. Ideally I will work only with firefly, if the quality is good enough and if they offer producers a good deal (or maybe free use, with enough uploads).

It took me a lot of time to learn my way around ai. And every time I attempt a new series, I need a new set of prompts.

Prompts also "break down" frequently if I just change something simple, like pink instead of red or morning light instead of evening light. Suddenly I get unusable pixel mash.

I also post process my files a lot in photoshop, because so many details are broken when you zoom into 100%.

However�I think having ai content brings a lot of eyeballs to the port. I am certainly seeing a strong uptick in overall sales.

Midjourney probably gets you the best content with little post processing needs. Downside�everyone is using midjourney and you run the risk of having just another "metoo" port.

I try to minimize that by checking the interesting files after prompting. If I see 10 other near identical uploads, I discard mine.

Hoping to have 1200 files from different genres by end of the year. But I am already slowing down the prompting and doing more normal photography and especially more video.

Because the other big downside is that at the moment only Adobe has a real ai collection, so I don't have enough content for the other agencies.

This is my experience.

The youtubers are all screaming how easy it is to make thousands of dollars a month with ai.

So either I am doing the wrong content or the wrong genres or�strangers on the internet are not telling the truth�

We all benefit from sharing real information.

Also working with ai has taken away the fear that ai will replace me. Maybe in 10-20 years, but not now. It is a tool I can learn to use. Nothing more, nothing less.

Quote from: cobalt on August 12, 2023, 10:44

Made 114.83 USD so far
But I have paid over 2000 dollars in credits for ai use

If you are spending so much more than what you are earning that makes you a bad example how not to use AI for microstock.   

I've only spent $71.40 on AI and earned back a multiple of it. If I hadn't, I would stop spending money on AI.

My son spent the same exactly (71.4$) and earned 284$ in the last 5 months.

He uploaded a lot more files, didn�t he? 2000? I have 630.

Plus a lot of my content is seasonal, for christmas and now starting with easter, so the sales will come later. But for a good harvest you have to upload at least 6 months in advance.

And with the Adobe delay, maybe 9 months early. Hence�easter now, not October.

Everyone who is using midjourney doesn�t have my cost basis.

I am not recommending to do it my way.

But I am not planning to use midjourney and I will not upload too many files in one go.

I am building my port very slowly with intention.

But for sales it is exactly like I said. Upload needed content, you get sales.

Upload stuff just for fun, no sales.

Don�t worry, I will get my money back.

eta

unless you pay for the private room everything on midjourney is public. And we have an army of aggressive copycats on our heels.

and with ai files you will not be able to file a dmca takedown complaint. copycats are free to upload the exact same image, or with subtle variation without any consequences.

Everyone has to make their own decisions how to deal with that.

I have several thousand files good enough for processing and uploading. But I never upload a complete series in one go.

Not with photos or video or ai.

I would rather have a small port that is efficient.

But that is a personal choice.

The big problem is that millions of images are added monthly to the Ai collection, so quantity may serve you better. You may create some great quality images that got lost in the huge Ai collection. So, I'm afraid that time goes against your strategy.
As I said before, I always warn my son that this domain is changing so fast and he should not put big hopes on its future.

unless you pay for the private room everything on midjourney is public.

Isn�t that the same with Dall-E?
And with Stable Diffusion (unless you run it on your own computer)?