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« on: March 12, 2015, 09:04 »
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Has Adobe made any changes to Fotolia that benefits contributors?


« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2015, 09:07 »
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There is an Adobe logo on the web site.  I feel much better seeing it.  So that is an benefit.

objowl

« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2015, 09:13 »
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fotorob

  • I am a professional stock photographer

« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2015, 09:28 »
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So far it seems that the minimum price for an EL has increased from 20 to 30 Credits.

objowl

« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2015, 09:34 »
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My maximum price for an EL has increased from 50 to 60.

Beppe Grillo

« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2015, 09:39 »
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It would be interesting to know what Adobe has changed in marketing, advertising, communication about Fotolia.
« Last Edit: March 12, 2015, 09:45 by Beppe Grillo »

« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2015, 11:22 »
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It would be interesting to know what Adobe has changed in marketing, advertising, communication about Fotolia.

And fired a few people

Semmick Photo

« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2015, 11:38 »
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It would be interesting to know what Adobe has changed in marketing, advertising, communication about Fotolia.

And fired a few people

I sincerely hope (and believe) karma will do its work

« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2015, 12:21 »
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No news about The Chad being hung out to dry, then?

« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2015, 13:13 »
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Also review times change. Before they used to review my batches withing max. two days .i uploaded my last batch five days ago and it is still awaiting validation

« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2015, 13:40 »
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I'll tell you one thing; their payouts have slowed drastically.  I've just emailed them for the third time.  I've been waiting until today for my payout which i requested on 2/3... 37 days ago

This is unacceptable, after receiving timely payouts for almost 10 years already. 

« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2015, 15:23 »
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I was paid today, 12 days. 

« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2015, 17:04 »
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I got my money paid within 4 days.

« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2015, 23:35 »
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I'll tell you one thing; their payouts have slowed drastically.  I've just emailed them for the third time.  I've been waiting until today for my payout which i requested on 2/3... 37 days ago

This is unacceptable, after receiving timely payouts for almost 10 years already.

Try calling on the phone maybe?  There's something wrong here.  My payouts have been coming regular.

« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2015, 01:07 »
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Fotolia is the only agency where I have to regularly submit a ticket to support asking why my payment is late (again). Lately it got worse - so no improvement there with Adobe. If there is one thing any agency should not mess with it is payments. Timely payments are the least that they can do. Late payments are such a regular occurrence on Fotolia that I have a standard message on my computer which I simply copy and paste.

« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2015, 14:13 »
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I've got someone in customer service emailing the accounting dept for me, in addition to their regular support ticket.  There has to be something wrong here.  I've been with them since day one, a gold contributor; I mean why all of the sudden the delay?  It's not like the payout is an exceptionally large one, either.  Some sort of glitch or somebody may have dropped the ball.

« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2015, 16:53 »
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I have more sale since adobe change. But I made a payment request last week and I don't know when I'll get paid according to the issue of other membe here about their payment delay.

Rinderart

« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2015, 18:44 »
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No news about The Chad being hung out to dry, then?

Still there, Talked to him a few days ago. doing well.

« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2015, 20:20 »
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No news about The Chad being hung out to dry, then?

Still there, Talked to him a few days ago. doing well.

Next time you phone Chad could you ask if it's Benito Mussolini or Francisco Franco who was his most influential childhood idol?

« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2015, 05:29 »
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I'll tell you one thing; their payouts have slowed drastically.  I've just emailed them for the third time.  I've been waiting until today for my payout which i requested on 2/3... 37 days ago

This is unacceptable, after receiving timely payouts for almost 10 years already.

Payouts always been slow for me, but now the reviews are much slower too!

Dook

« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2015, 06:16 »
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I went to see my stats at two of my best performers, SS and Fotolia, with a lot of curiosity last night, since Fotolia is making some big changes now. After an initial  Fotolia boost last week, the things are back to normal, with SS winning. SS fought off another attack. Who is next?
« Last Edit: March 17, 2015, 06:24 by Dook »

Rinderart

« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2015, 19:09 »
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I went to see my stats at two of my best performers, SS and Fotolia, with a lot of curiosity last night, since Fotolia is making some big changes now. After an initial  Fotolia boost last week, the things are back to normal, with SS winning. SS fought off another attack. Who is next?

Just wait.

50%

« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2015, 04:28 »
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On the US-site Image Pack are now standard and shown as first, that means buyer pays credit prices contributor earns pennies subscription prices. Well done Adobe!  :P ::)

objowl

« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2015, 13:26 »
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On the US-site Image Pack are now standard and shown as first, that means buyer pays credit prices contributor earns pennies subscription prices. Well done Adobe!  :P ::)

I don't follow your logic, have you tested this?

Batman

« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2015, 11:35 »
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I went to see my stats at two of my best performers, SS and Fotolia, with a lot of curiosity last night, since Fotolia is making some big changes now. After an initial  Fotolia boost last week, the things are back to normal, with SS winning. SS fought off another attack. Who is next?

Just wait.

Just wait for lower pay, more profit for Adobbe? You double this month because FL couldn't go any lower for 2 years.

« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2015, 12:01 »
+3
I went to see my stats at two of my best performers, SS and Fotolia, with a lot of curiosity last night, since Fotolia is making some big changes now. After an initial  Fotolia boost last week, the things are back to normal, with SS winning. SS fought off another attack. Who is next?

Just wait.

Just wait for lower pay, more profit for Adobbe? You double this month because FL couldn't go any lower for 2 years.

You're right. Seriously, Adobe is now saying, "here's what we get from FT now, how do we get more moving forward?" There is really very little chance they will enact changes that up commissions. My guess is that they will use the go-to carrot everyone else uses: the infamous volume argument.

« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2015, 08:50 »
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I don't think they could pay less, they would lose most of their content.  The way to make more money is the way Shutterstock do it.  Make it viable for contributors to at least maintain their earnings and the site thrives.  Follow the Getty/istock strategy and profits will soon dry up.

« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2015, 10:52 »
+22
Will those who believe that the acquisition of any company by a bigger company is good news for anyone apart from those at the very top of the acquiring company, please form an orderly queue to have their blinkers and rose tinted spectacles removed.
Thankyou. :)

objowl

« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2015, 11:00 »
-1
I went to see my stats at two of my best performers, SS and Fotolia, with a lot of curiosity last night, since Fotolia is making some big changes now. After an initial  Fotolia boost last week, the things are back to normal, with SS winning. SS fought off another attack. Who is next?


Just wait.


Just wait for lower pay, more profit for Adobe? You double this month because FL couldn't go any lower for 2 years.


You're right. Seriously, Adobe is now saying, "here's what we get from FT now, how do we get more moving forward?" There is really very little chance they will enact changes that up commissions. My guess is that they will use the go-to carrot everyone else uses: the infamous volume argument.


You may have missed it, they have enacted changes that up commissions.   
http://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/credits-price-change/msg411547/?topicseen#new

« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2015, 16:10 »
+1
I went to see my stats at two of my best performers, SS and Fotolia, with a lot of curiosity last night, since Fotolia is making some big changes now. After an initial  Fotolia boost last week, the things are back to normal, with SS winning. SS fought off another attack. Who is next?


Just wait.


Just wait for lower pay, more profit for Adobe? You double this month because FL couldn't go any lower for 2 years.


You're right. Seriously, Adobe is now saying, "here's what we get from FT now, how do we get more moving forward?" There is really very little chance they will enact changes that up commissions. My guess is that they will use the go-to carrot everyone else uses: the infamous volume argument.


You may have missed it, they have enacted changes that up commissions.   
http://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/credits-price-change/msg411547/?topicseen#new


Does that tell how much you will get for a cloud download subscription sale? Didn't think so. Just wait means, bend over and get ready.

objowl

« Reply #30 on: March 29, 2015, 16:24 »
-2
I went to see my stats at two of my best performers, SS and Fotolia, with a lot of curiosity last night, since Fotolia is making some big changes now. After an initial  Fotolia boost last week, the things are back to normal, with SS winning. SS fought off another attack. Who is next?


Just wait.


Just wait for lower pay, more profit for Adobe? You double this month because FL couldn't go any lower for 2 years.


You're right. Seriously, Adobe is now saying, "here's what we get from FT now, how do we get more moving forward?" There is really very little chance they will enact changes that up commissions. My guess is that they will use the go-to carrot everyone else uses: the infamous volume argument.


You may have missed it, they have enacted changes that up commissions.   
http://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/credits-price-change/msg411547/?topicseen#new


Does that tell how much you will get for a cloud download subscription sale? Didn't think so. Just wait means, bend over and get ready.


Answering your own rhetorical questions is not going to help anybody, just another whinge.

« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2015, 05:03 »
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Will those who believe that the acquisition of any company by a bigger company is good news for anyone apart from those at the very top of the acquiring company, please form an orderly queue to have their blinkers and rose tinted spectacles removed.
Thankyou. :)

Will those who believe in doom and gloom and cant stop whining about it just leave (micro)stock and let others get on with business?
Thank you  ;)

« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2015, 08:56 »
+7
Will those who believe that the acquisition of any company by a bigger company is good news for anyone apart from those at the very top of the acquiring company, please form an orderly queue to have their blinkers and rose tinted spectacles removed.
Thankyou. :)

Will those who believe in doom and gloom and cant stop whining about it just leave (micro)stock and let others get on with business?
Thank you  ;)


Ah! Denial! A serious case too!
May things continue to go so well for you, but if you ever need it the queue is always there!
Thank you too. :) 

« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2015, 09:24 »
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Will those who believe that the acquisition of any company by a bigger company is good news for anyone apart from those at the very top of the acquiring company, please form an orderly queue to have their blinkers and rose tinted spectacles removed.
Thankyou. :)

Will those who believe in doom and gloom and cant stop whining about it just leave (micro)stock and let others get on with business?
Thank you  ;)

Doesnt sound like youve been in this business very long. And on msg very long as well. Its very difficult for many of us to just "pick up and leave". May be easy for you to say, much harder for many to do since the income plays a key role in their overall income.

Secondly, there is very rarely a thread where someone can proudly post that an agency, either through the goodness of their hearts or by acquisition, has come out to proclaim that this is a big win for contributors. The likes of IS, DP. FT (yes, your FT), 123, alamy have all enacted strategy (i call them schemes) to claw back as much commission as possible, footing their wealth on the backs of us. And you now come in here and say we are just complaining and if we dont like it leave? That adobe is somehow going to sprinkle fairy dust on our commission base and bring reasonable returns to the contributor? The fact that FT/adobe upped the extended license is meaningless. If every contributor does not have theirs set at the max allowed, they are contributing to the erosion of microstock. That change alone would not have affected me because all my work was set at 100. If Ft cared about our commissions, why not auto set el to the max instead of the other way around?

Sorry, but i believe that its wishful thinking that adobe is going to intentionally enact strategic activities around pleasing the contributor. Its all about the bottom line, not the top line, but the bottom line. And we effect the bottom line that is so important to the agencies and we are the easiest targets to get instant results. That mentality will never change.

« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2015, 09:54 »
+3
No news about The Chad being hung out to dry, then?

Still there, Talked to him a few days ago. doing well.

Well, that'll keep me away from the place then.

I don't know why people are giving you minuses for passing on the info.

« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2015, 10:32 »
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I tryed to covert my credits, and it says I have to wait 45 days from my first sale...?!.  And nowhere in payments info on site is written this fact...
Hope this methods dissappear with the Adobe. Some changes will/should occur.

Uncle Pete

« Reply #36 on: March 31, 2015, 09:43 »
+3
"Only fools dig for the treasure that was never buried"

Will those who believe in doom and gloom and cant stop whining about it just leave (micro)stock and let others get on with business?
Thank you  ;)

« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2015, 10:09 »
+1
Last week was awesome on sales ! This week nothing ... !

Dook

« Reply #38 on: March 31, 2015, 10:29 »
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Last week was awesome on sales ! This week nothing ... !
Cheer up, Julie! You look awesome this week, too!

« Reply #39 on: March 31, 2015, 10:59 »
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 ;D ;D ;D

Tryingmybest

  • Stand up for what is right
« Reply #40 on: March 31, 2015, 15:13 »
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There is an Adobe logo on the web site.  I feel much better seeing it.  So that is an benefit.

The Adobe logo means we're going to start to need to pay Fodobe $20/month to submit our work. But that includes immediate upgrades for review times.

OM

« Reply #41 on: April 02, 2015, 20:08 »
+2
No news about The Chad being hung out to dry, then?

Still there, Talked to him a few days ago. doing well.

Next time you phone Chad could you ask if it's Benito Mussolini or Francisco Franco who was his most influential childhood idol?

It wasn't so bad when he was just 'Chad' but when he started appearing on the forums as 'THE CHAD', I thought.."Oh, dearie me, this is the future of FT!". ;D

OM

« Reply #42 on: April 02, 2015, 20:11 »
+1
Last week was awesome on sales ! This week nothing ... !

Yep. Me too. Weird dat innit?

Noedelhap

  • www.colincramm.com

« Reply #43 on: April 10, 2015, 09:02 »
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Very few sales this week indeed. I wonder if the Adobe takeover has anything to do with that.

No Free Lunch

« Reply #44 on: April 10, 2015, 09:10 »
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Just curious what are some of the overall ranks to better judge if that has merit on sales- I know my overall rank isn't very good thus explaining so my low sales- I bet folks would ranks of less than 2,000 are making big bucks! Someday I will reach the 2,000 or less club - someday...



« Reply #45 on: April 10, 2015, 10:40 »
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Just curious what are some of the overall ranks to better judge if that has merit on sales- I know my overall rank isn't very good thus explaining so my low sales- I bet folks would ranks of less than 2,000 are making big bucks! Someday I will reach the 2,000 or less club - someday...

I'm in that club and my sales have slowed this week.  Not too worried yet, as the week after Easter is never great one due to some people taking holidays.

« Reply #46 on: April 10, 2015, 16:44 »
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Yep, Europe is Fotolia's biggest market, and many people in Europe take advantage of the long Easter weekend by adding extra holiday days so they get the whole week off.  Not surprised FT is slightly slower this week.

« Reply #47 on: April 22, 2015, 12:59 »
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There is an Adobe logo on the web site.  I feel much better seeing it.  So that is an benefit.


4 months and we get a logo, nothing?

"It's premature to outline the exact type of integration and pricing we could offer, however we do anticipate this will be a value-add service and there will be extra cost associated with using it for Creative Cloud members," Adobe said. Fotolia is largely a European company, but Adobe plans to increase its profile in the US, the company said.

"As we integrate Fotolia, we believe our members will use Creative Cloud as the place to discover and buy great content -- and also as a place where they can sell and showcase their work," said David Wadhwani, general manager of Adobe's digital media business, in a blog post.

http://www.cnet.com/news/adobe-buys-into-stock-art-business-lures-software-subscribers/

« Reply #48 on: April 27, 2015, 19:50 »
+5
Every so often I search Twitter and Google to find any developments.

Today, I found a month-old job listing.

Quote
Customer service representative to provide support in North America for stock photography, integrated as a key part of Adobe's Creative Cloud (www.fotolia.com).




« Reply #49 on: April 28, 2015, 16:10 »
+1
Adobe can't lower prices, because all professionals in Microstock market uses Adobe Software. They can't because that would cause an image problem for Adobe.
Payouttime is still the same as ever (too long, 3 weeks in averrage).

In my case something changed a lot! The balance between credit- and subscription sales changed from 1:2 to nearly 2:1. At a level of roundabout 200 sales at month this change can completely change my strategy with all other agencies.

Will say, more pictures exclusively to FT, less effort with others, more earnings at FT. Some years ago i owned position 118 in overall ranking.

Maybe, FT has duped their contributors and also Adobe by announcing more subscription sales than there are. After the acquisition it is unusual that Adobe does a change, it has to be done by the old management.
If i had the new numbers and earnings in the past, i hadn't gave so much pictures at so much other players.

Hope this will getting a consist status.


50%

« Reply #50 on: April 28, 2015, 17:28 »
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Adobe can't lower prices, because all professionals in Microstock market uses Adobe Software. They can't because that would cause an image problem for Adobe.
Payouttime is still the same as ever (too long, 3 weeks in averrage).

In my case something changed a lot! The balance between credit- and subscription sales changed from 1:2 to nearly 2:1. At a level of roundabout 200 sales at month this change can completely change my strategy with all other agencies.

Will say, more pictures exclusively to FT, less effort with others, more earnings at FT. Some years ago i owned position 118 in overall ranking.

Maybe, FT has duped their contributors and also Adobe by announcing more subscription sales than there are. After the acquisition it is unusual that Adobe does a change, it has to be done by the old management.
If i had the new numbers and earnings in the past, i hadn't gave so much pictures at so much other players.

Hope this will getting a consist status.
99% of their customers are not producing stock most of them use stock and they want it as dirt cheap as possible. Adobe gives a * about the 1% that is producing stock!

« Reply #51 on: April 28, 2015, 17:33 »
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? 99% interisting number, tell me more

Batman

« Reply #52 on: April 28, 2015, 18:49 »
+2
There is an Adobe logo on the web site.  I feel much better seeing it.  So that is an benefit.


4 months and we get a logo, nothing?

"It's premature to outline the exact type of integration and pricing we could offer, however we do anticipate this will be a value-add service and there will be extra cost associated with using it for Creative Cloud members," Adobe said. Fotolia is largely a European company, but Adobe plans to increase its profile in the US, the company said.

"As we integrate Fotolia, we believe our members will use Creative Cloud as the place to discover and buy great content -- and also as a place where they can sell and showcase their work," said David Wadhwani, general manager of Adobe's digital media business, in a blog post.

http://www.cnet.com/news/adobe-buys-into-stock-art-business-lures-software-subscribers/


I want to sell and showcase my work on Adobe Cloud, and in America. I'd come back to FT for that.

ultimagina

« Reply #53 on: April 30, 2015, 10:50 »
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I can see a sharp increase for my US sales, from 10% in November and 13% 2 months ago, up to 30% in April.
The first graph shows the trend for all my FT earnings, while the second one shows the trend for my US earnings.

Is it only for me or it's Adobe related?

« Last Edit: April 30, 2015, 13:54 by ultimagaina »

« Reply #54 on: April 30, 2015, 11:17 »
+1
Ft is my no.2 in terms of $ since July 2014. From Nov 2014 onwards I earned 100% more on FT than on IS even though my earnings on IS have slightly increased.

« Reply #55 on: April 30, 2015, 13:22 »
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As my first month as an independent I am really surprised positively at Fotolia even more than Shutterstock. I think those two will be leading the race in a short time as Istock has collapsed as expected and all the other agencies are much weaker. Right now I am out of DPC as I really think it can damage my credit sales.

Rinderart

« Reply #56 on: May 04, 2015, 23:57 »
+4
FT is red Hot For me.

« Reply #57 on: May 05, 2015, 14:10 »
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FT is red Hot For me.


Yep.  Making almost double there what I made same time last year.  I f only SS and ISP would do the same.

ultimagina

« Reply #58 on: May 05, 2015, 14:50 »
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« Last Edit: May 05, 2015, 14:53 by ultimagaina »

gillian vann

  • *Gillian*
« Reply #59 on: May 05, 2015, 18:55 »
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when did they change the website? I logged in today after I saw an email saying I'd earned 50credits for a sale, and I wondered how much that meant for me ($10) and the site has been revamped. looks better, but their stat page is still the same silly system, rather than just giving a big useful graph like DT does.  edit: just saw the other thread about this.

and I've read (here) that they increased prices, do we have to manually change our prices or have they automatically increased?

« Reply #60 on: May 20, 2015, 17:50 »
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Every so often I search Twitter and Google to find any developments.

Today, I found a month-old job listing.

Quote
Customer service representative to provide support in North America for stock photography, integrated as a key part of Adobe's Creative Cloud (www.fotolia.com).




https://www.linkedin.com/job/fotolia-jobs/?trk=jserp_search_button_execute

Adobe recently listed more new Fotolia jobs. Makes me think the creative cloud integration is still a few months away.


Quote
This role is part of an exciting new team at Adobe. We are building the worlds most complete platform for buying and selling creative assets. You will play a critical role in building this product and business that will empower millions of users and professionals, alike. We are looking for a web front end developer who to build great innovative web based application for stock photography on the Creative Cloud.


Quote
Adobe is looking for a Content Sourcing Specialist to help source and acquire content such as stock photos, illustrations, videos, etc.  This position will help strategize and implement Marketing, Branding and Partnership activities with the photography community, drive all functions related to contributors management, content moderation and content management.  A passion for the Internet and photography is a must!

« Reply #61 on: May 20, 2015, 21:00 »
+5
Adobe payments seem to come a lot faster than Fotolia payments don't they?  My last one was in about 3 days and Fotolia often left me hanging 3 weeks!


 

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