Author Topic: Adobe / Fotolia sale - commissions unaffected (Read 18738 times)

Monty-m-gue · « **on:** September 01, 2015, 03:15 »

This just in from Adobe / Fotolia:

"As you know, Adobe acquired Fotolia earlier this year and later launched Adobe Stock, a stock image service integrated into Adobe Creative Cloud. As a result your images are now available to the world’s largest creative community.

We’re pleased with the early adoption of the product and we’re happy to see that many of you have already shared your feedback of increased sales.

We will be running a promotion from September 1st to September 20th to further ensure that your images are receiving the maximum amount of exposure to potential new clients and to accelerate awareness of the site.

For a limited time, we will be offering a 50% discount on all single images purchased, £2.99 per image instead of the usual £5.99.

We wanted to inform you that, regardless of this discount occurring, your commission will be unaffected and you will continue to generate royalties at the current rate.

Many thanks
Fotolia/Adobe Stock Team"

Dodie · « **Reply #1 on:** September 01, 2015, 03:42 »

I got it too.
Now that is what I call transparency and caring about your contributors. Other agencies should learn from this.
Thank you Adobe.

Monty-m-gue · « **Reply #2 on:** September 01, 2015, 03:45 »

Yep, it's September - the traditional time for initiatives and innovation. Adobe have put their cards on the table. Istock, you're up next...

weymouth · « **Reply #3 on:** September 01, 2015, 04:17 »

A splendid example of how an agency should treat their members! Wish some agencies read this, take it to heart and learn from it.

Thanks Adobe!

Red Dove · « **Reply #4 on:** September 01, 2015, 04:52 »

Nice move Adobe and decently done for a change.

Belish · « **Reply #5 on:** September 01, 2015, 05:23 »

Got the email too. I had a very strange feeling while reading it... For the first time in my life I felt that I'm working with not for somebody. And this somebody is treating me fair, not just exploiting my work and paying me pennies. I hope this tactics results in growing and they keep the policy!

cathyslife · « **Reply #6 on:** September 01, 2015, 05:39 »

Quote from: Cylonphoto on September 01, 2015, 05:23

Got the email too. I had a very strange feeling while reading it... For the first time in my life I felt that I'm working with not for somebody. And this somebody is treating me fair, not just exploiting my work and paying me pennies. I hope this tactics results in growing and they keep the policy!

Well, they are still doing that, but at least they got the other stuff right.

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #7 on:** September 01, 2015, 05:53 »

I didn't get the email, so thanks for posting. Very good news!

Deyan Georgiev Photography · « **Reply #8 on:** September 01, 2015, 07:28 »

This is the right business relationship, we invest in creating photos, they invest in marketing and sales. Each side have to bear its part of the commitment.
Correct and fairly on their part!

Sebastian Radu · « **Reply #9 on:** September 01, 2015, 07:32 »

I received the same email.
I hope that Adobe to maintain these strategies for both clients and photographers.

Cesar · « **Reply #10 on:** September 01, 2015, 07:41 »

you are simply naive, one download sales are small percentage of all sales. 5€ sales in europe, i should get 2-2,5€, will i get? no!

tickstock · « **Reply #11 on:** September 01, 2015, 08:50 »

Now we wait for all the other sites to lower pricing as well. Wooyay!

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #12 on:** September 01, 2015, 08:56 »

Just got the email.

ccbcc · « **Reply #13 on:** September 01, 2015, 09:05 »

This is a great gesture from Adobe. I wish they'd hurry up with including video into Adobe Stock so us video producers could join the fun. $:-\$

wordplanet · « **Reply #14 on:** September 01, 2015, 09:06 »

It's good to see them taking the sale losses out of their share. Haven't had too many sales since I joined the new Adobe Fotolia but I'm encouraged to upload the rest of my micro portfolio there as people seem to be seeing growth there.

I had asked a question in another thread about Fotolia Instant and haven't seen a response - anyone uploading smartphone photos there and any results? Just uploaded a handful the other day and wondering if I should keep uploading more?

tickstock · « **Reply #15 on:** September 01, 2015, 09:07 »

Quote from: ccbcc on September 01, 2015, 09:05

This is a great gesture from Adobe. I wish they'd hurry up with including video into Adobe Stock so us video producers could join the fun. $:-\$

Will you be saying that when they sell videos for $30 and offer them for sale for $15?

Digital66 · « **Reply #16 on:** September 01, 2015, 09:37 »

$:-\$ Such a huge discount... I don't like the consequences this might bring.

50% · « **Reply #17 on:** September 01, 2015, 09:43 »

This is not great! Actually this is the most normal thing we are just spoiled by the terrible treatment of other agencies, in comparison to these agencies it looks great but again most normal thing. Anyway thank you Adobe for reasonable fairness!

Dumc · « **Reply #18 on:** September 01, 2015, 10:03 »

Discount will only last 3 weeks, not forever.

cathyslife · « **Reply #19 on:** September 01, 2015, 10:04 »

Quote from: Digital66 on September 01, 2015, 09:37

$:-\$ Such a huge discount... I don't like the consequences this might bring.

What consequences...more buyers? The discount is coming out of their pocket, not ours.

Deyan Georgiev Photography · « **Reply #20 on:** September 01, 2015, 11:09 »

I got first EL for the month, i'm not sure if this offer cover the ELs too. If yes we can expect more in the next 20 days.

EmberMike · « **Reply #21 on:** September 01, 2015, 11:35 »

See, every-other-stock-company? It's not so hard to communicate with contributors and not be jerks.

Well played, Adobe.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #22 on:** September 01, 2015, 11:59 »

It would be very good news if I weren't on their blacklist - I've asked if, under new ownership, they'd allow me to contribute and after waiting a couple of months asked again and was told that there wasn't any answer yet, but the delay probably meant "no".

So forgive me for not joining in this celebration of the new contributor friendly Adobe owned Fotolia.

ccbcc · « **Reply #23 on:** September 01, 2015, 12:40 »

Quote from: tickstock on September 01, 2015, 09:07

Quote from: ccbcc on September 01, 2015, 09:05
This is a great gesture from Adobe. I wish they'd hurry up with including video into Adobe Stock so us video producers could join the fun. $:-\$
Will you be saying that when they sell videos for $30 and offer them for sale for $15?

No why would I?

DallasP · « **Reply #24 on:** September 01, 2015, 12:42 »

Quote from: Monty-m-gue on September 01, 2015, 03:15

This just in from Adobe / Fotolia:

"As you know, Adobe acquired Fotolia earlier this year and later launched Adobe Stock, a stock image service integrated into Adobe Creative Cloud. As a result your images are now available to the world’s largest creative community.

We’re pleased with the early adoption of the product and we’re happy to see that many of you have already shared your feedback of increased sales.

We will be running a promotion from September 1st to September 20th to further ensure that your images are receiving the maximum amount of exposure to potential new clients and to accelerate awareness of the site.

For a limited time, we will be offering a 50% discount on all single images purchased, £2.99 per image instead of the usual £5.99.

We wanted to inform you that, regardless of this discount occurring, your commission will be unaffected and you will continue to generate royalties at the current rate.

Many thanks
Fotolia/Adobe Stock Team"

Thanks!

Shelma1 · « **Reply #25 on:** September 01, 2015, 12:48 »

Quote from: tickstock on September 01, 2015, 08:50

Now we wait for all the other sites to lower pricing as well. Wooyay!

Sites have sales all the time. All the other sites don't lower their prices in response. And Adobe and SS still pay the same royalties when they have a sale -- unlike iS, who cut royalties along with prices. Of all the sites, iS should be paying the most attention to this. I wish they'd follow suit and keep paying us the same royalties...lord knows they're the lowest royalties in the industry.

tickstock · « **Reply #26 on:** September 01, 2015, 12:53 »

Quote from: ccbcc on September 01, 2015, 12:40

Quote from: tickstock on September 01, 2015, 09:07
Quote from: ccbcc on September 01, 2015, 09:05
This is a great gesture from Adobe. I wish they'd hurry up with including video into Adobe Stock so us video producers could join the fun. $:-\$
Will you be saying that when they sell videos for $30 and offer them for sale for $15?
No why would I?

I think you should expect prices to be lower than most everywhere else. My guess is in the 30-50 dollar range.

PixelBytes · « **Reply #27 on:** September 01, 2015, 14:09 »

So nice to read that Adobe us treating us as partners. My feelings already been said better by others, but just want to say THANK YOU to Adobe for the good communication, and for taking the financial hit from the sale from THEIR END of the earnings which is much larger then ours, as a good agent should do.

Unlike some sites which do sales and take from our 15-20% pittance to cover the cost of their marketing.

michaeldb · « **Reply #28 on:** September 01, 2015, 18:33 »

I got the email. I'm not doing new stock images any more, but I am buying some. So I went to Fotolia site to take advantage of the sale today, but could find no sign of it or any promotion for it. Is it available to all customers? $:-\$

Rose Tinted Glasses · « **Reply #29 on:** September 01, 2015, 18:47 »

Quote from: PixelBytes on September 01, 2015, 14:09

So nice to read that Adobe us treating us as partners. My feelings already been said better by others, but just want to say THANK YOU to Adobe for the good communication, and for taking the financial hit from the sale from THEIR END of the earnings which is much larger then ours, as a good agent should do.

Unlike some sites which do sales and take from our 15-20% pittance to cover the cost of their marketing.

Partners??? You might want to revisit that thought. It's a nice gesture for sure, but you are not a partner nor are they treating anyone as such.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #30 on:** September 01, 2015, 19:14 »

Quote from: michaeldb on September 01, 2015, 18:33

I got the email. I'm not doing new stock images any more, but I am buying some. So I went to Fotolia site to take advantage of the sale today, but could find no sign of it or any promotion for it. Is it available to all customers? $:-\$

The sale is at Adobe Stock, not Fotolia

https://stock.adobe.com/plans

PixelBytes · « **Reply #31 on:** September 02, 2015, 16:53 »

Quote from: Rose Tinted Glasses on September 01, 2015, 18:47

Quote from: PixelBytes on September 01, 2015, 14:09
So nice to read that Adobe us treating us as partners. My feelings already been said better by others, but just want to say THANK YOU to Adobe for the good communication, and for taking the financial hit from the sale from THEIR END of the earnings which is much larger then ours, as a good agent should do.

Unlike some sites which do sales and take from our 15-20% pittance to cover the cost of their marketing.

Partners??? You might want to revisit that thought. It's a nice gesture for sure, but you are not a partner nor are they treating anyone as such.

Nit picking. So you think one word changes the point I was trying to make. Looks like enough others understood what I mean.

Rose Tinted Glasses · « **Reply #32 on:** September 02, 2015, 17:51 »

Quote from: PixelBytes on September 02, 2015, 16:53

Quote from: Rose Tinted Glasses on September 01, 2015, 18:47
Quote from: PixelBytes on September 01, 2015, 14:09
So nice to read that Adobe us treating us as partners. My feelings already been said better by others, but just want to say THANK YOU to Adobe for the good communication, and for taking the financial hit from the sale from THEIR END of the earnings which is much larger then ours, as a good agent should do.

Unlike some sites which do sales and take from our 15-20% pittance to cover the cost of their marketing.

Partners??? You might want to revisit that thought. It's a nice gesture for sure, but you are not a partner nor are they treating anyone as such.

Nit picking. So you think one word changes the point I was trying to make. Looks like enough others understood what I mean.

I think nit picking would have been bringing to your attention your typo of "us" knowing full well you meant to say "is". It is also not about "one word" and the point you were trying to make, rather it is about a very clear sentence and the point you did make that states "so nice to read that Adobe is treating us as partners." (corrected for that typo). Not sure what you were trying to say, but being a fairly accurate language I would interpret what you said as you have read somewhere that Adobe is treating everyone as partners. That sentence is not even trying to say you read it, it is saying you read it.

michaeldb · « **Reply #33 on:** September 02, 2015, 19:59 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on September 01, 2015, 19:14

Quote from: michaeldb on September 01, 2015, 18:33
I got the email. I'm not doing new stock images any more, but I am buying some. So I went to Fotolia site to take advantage of the sale today, but could find no sign of it or any promotion for it. Is it available to all customers? $:-\$

The sale is at Adobe Stock, not Fotolia

https://stock.adobe.com/plans

Thanks!

PixelBytes · « **Reply #34 on:** September 02, 2015, 23:50 »

Quote from: Rose Tinted Glasses on September 02, 2015, 17:51

Quote from: PixelBytes on September 02, 2015, 16:53
Quote from: Rose Tinted Glasses on September 01, 2015, 18:47
Quote from: PixelBytes on September 01, 2015, 14:09
So nice to read that Adobe us treating us as partners. My feelings already been said better by others, but just want to say THANK YOU to Adobe for the good communication, and for taking the financial hit from the sale from THEIR END of the earnings which is much larger then ours, as a good agent should do.

Unlike some sites which do sales and take from our 15-20% pittance to cover the cost of their marketing.

Partners??? You might want to revisit that thought. It's a nice gesture for sure, but you are not a partner nor are they treating anyone as such.

Nit picking. So you think one word changes the point I was trying to make. Looks like enough others understood what I mean.

I think nit picking would have been bringing to your attention your typo of "us" knowing full well you meant to say "is". It is also not about "one word" and the point you were trying to make, rather it is about a very clear sentence and the point you did make that states "so nice to read that Adobe is treating us as partners." (corrected for that typo). Not sure what you were trying to say, but being a fairly accurate language I would interpret what you said as you have read somewhere that Adobe is treating everyone as partners. That sentence is not even trying to say you read it, it is saying you read it.

Well, first, let me apologize for any grammar or typing errors. I often use my phone or tablet to respond and make more typos then when using my computer keyboard. Reading this forum it is the rare person who never makes any typos or grammar mistakes.

Second, you specifically singled out the one word 'partners' when you said 'Partners?? You might want to revisit that thought. It's a nice gesture for sure, but you are not a partner nor are they treating anyone as such.'

I guess you thought I meant partners as in a joint legal entity. I meant partners more like in the 1st and 7th definitions here:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/partner

Basically trying to say they are treating us as tho we contributors are on the same team as Adobe and that they seem to understand they have a joint interest in sharing the fruits of our labours in a fair manner.

If you disagree, fine with me. I am allowed my opinion and looks like some others agree with me.

ccbcc · « **Reply #35 on:** September 03, 2015, 01:39 »

Quote from: tickstock on September 01, 2015, 12:53

Quote from: ccbcc on September 01, 2015, 12:40
Quote from: tickstock on September 01, 2015, 09:07
Quote from: ccbcc on September 01, 2015, 09:05
This is a great gesture from Adobe. I wish they'd hurry up with including video into Adobe Stock so us video producers could join the fun. $:-\$
Will you be saying that when they sell videos for $30 and offer them for sale for $15?
No why would I?
I think you should expect prices to be lower than most everywhere else. My guess is in the 30-50 dollar range.

I haven't checked out Adobe Stock very well, are the prices for photos lower compared to Fotolia? I would have expected them to remain the same.

tickstock · « **Reply #36 on:** September 03, 2015, 08:24 »

Quote from: ccbcc on September 03, 2015, 01:39

Quote from: tickstock on September 01, 2015, 12:53
Quote from: ccbcc on September 01, 2015, 12:40
Quote from: tickstock on September 01, 2015, 09:07
Quote from: ccbcc on September 01, 2015, 09:05
This is a great gesture from Adobe. I wish they'd hurry up with including video into Adobe Stock so us video producers could join the fun. $:-\$
Will you be saying that when they sell videos for $30 and offer them for sale for $15?
No why would I?
I think you should expect prices to be lower than most everywhere else. My guess is in the 30-50 dollar range.
I haven't checked out Adobe Stock very well, are the prices for photos lower compared to Fotolia? I would have expected them to remain the same.

Depending on your level Adobe could be 1/3 the price maybe less.

superdone · « **Reply #37 on:** September 04, 2015, 04:47 »

Interesting news

Justanotherphotographer · « **Reply #38 on:** September 04, 2015, 05:46 »

Matt, I hope you are reading this. Great to see the changes under way in contributor relations. I think it would be a huge gesture to the contributor community if Adobe considered allowing Jo Ann back on board. As you read these forums you know that she is around the two or three contributors that have done most to keep us all informed and is always fair and polite in her treatment of agency reps and so on. I think it would really help cement the feeling that things are changing for the better.

marthamarks · « **Reply #39 on:** September 04, 2015, 09:33 »

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on September 04, 2015, 05:46

Matt, I hope you are reading this. Great to see the changes under way in contributor relations. I think it would be a huge gesture to the contributor community if Adobe considered allowing Jo Ann back on board. As you read these forums you know that she is around the two or three contributors that have done most to keep us all informed and is always fair and polite in her treatment of agency reps and so on. I think it would really help cement the feeling that things are changing for the better.

Amen to that!

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