Author Topic: Adobe quarters and years (Read 6829 times)

amabu · « **Reply #75 on:** October 01, 2024, 22:51 »

Quote from: Injustice for all on October 01, 2024, 15:52

Quote from: amabu on October 01, 2024, 12:32
Quote from: Injustice for all on October 01, 2024, 05:33
-255,3% sales number -189,7% earnings

Wow, you are terrible at math!

-100% would mean you had NO sales and NO earnings. You can't get lower than that.

-100% is simply the percentage you earned less than another figure....such as 9375894646853!

9375894646853 -100% = 0

Maybe you should spend mor time to investigate the "math system" instead of your imageined " adobe sales system" .

Injustice for all · « **Reply #76 on:** October 02, 2024, 03:49 »

Quote from: amabu on October 01, 2024, 22:51

Quote from: Injustice for all on October 01, 2024, 15:52
Quote from: amabu on October 01, 2024, 12:32
Quote from: Injustice for all on October 01, 2024, 05:33
-255,3% sales number -189,7% earnings

Wow, you are terrible at math!

-100% would mean you had NO sales and NO earnings. You can't get lower than that.

-100% is simply the percentage you earned less than another figure....such as 9375894646853!

9375894646853 -100% = 0

Maybe you should spend mor time to investigate the "math system" instead of your imageined " adobe sales system" .

You really don't know when it's time to end it,right?

I understand that you mean 100% as the total value.

I,on the other hand,say that in September 2023 I earned 189% more,so I write -189% this September 2024.

Is it clearer now?Am I somehow more to your liking this way?

about my "imaginary sales system"

perhaps you can explain to me why in 9 months this year I had the same and identical number of sales for 3 months and another 2 months with a difference of 1 and two sales,with a max difference of 8 sales in 9 months.

in your opinion it is a pure coincidence that every month,since the beginning of this year,I have practically the same number of sales every month!

but do you realize how likely something like this is to happen by chance,in a library of over half a billion contents,among hundreds of thousands of contributors?

In your opinion,how is it possible that in such a context there can be such evident stability?

synthetick · « **Reply #77 on:** October 02, 2024, 05:38 »

Do you have any other case studies of contributors experiencing this sort of evident stability? It's not my own personal experience on AS.

Injustice for all · « **Reply #78 on:** October 02, 2024, 06:45 »

Quote from: synthetick on October 02, 2024, 05:38

Do you have any other case studies of contributors experiencing this sort of evident stability? It's not my own personal experience on AS.

no and it's all purely based on my experience.

but does it really matter?

I don't know your number of sales per month for at least 1 or 2 years,but even if you have a higher variation,it doesn't mean much.

How do you think I can have the same number of sales every month for nine months?

is it a pure coincidence?

come on,it's impossible!

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #79 on:** October 02, 2024, 10:49 »

Quote from: synthetick on October 02, 2024, 05:38

Do you have any other case studies of contributors experiencing this sort of evident stability? It's not my own personal experience on AS.

Not mine.

My sales vary by season and because I have some seasonal items that do better from October to January.

Quote from: Injustice for all on October 02, 2024, 06:45

Quote from: synthetick on October 02, 2024, 05:38
Do you have any other case studies of contributors experiencing this sort of evident stability? It's not my own personal experience on AS.

no and it's all purely based on my experience.

but does it really matter?

How do you think I can have the same number of sales every month for nine months?

come on,it's impossible!

Yes it matters, that you only use the numbers from your sales and ignore the rest of the universe.

No it's not impossible, you have proven that by your own numbers.

The answer is you must have a good balance of content and diversity, your downloads stay fairly consistent. Nice work.

pancaketom · « **Reply #80 on:** October 02, 2024, 13:05 »

Quote from: Injustice for all on October 02, 2024, 03:49

Quote from: amabu on October 01, 2024, 22:51
Quote from: Injustice for all on October 01, 2024, 15:52
Quote from: amabu on October 01, 2024, 12:32
Quote from: Injustice for all on October 01, 2024, 05:33
-255,3% sales number -189,7% earnings

Wow, you are terrible at math!

-100% would mean you had NO sales and NO earnings. You can't get lower than that.

-100% is simply the percentage you earned less than another figure....such as 9375894646853!

9375894646853 -100% = 0

Maybe you should spend mor time to investigate the "math system" instead of your imageined " adobe sales system" .

You really don't know when it's time to end it,right?

I understand that you mean 100% as the total value.

I,on the other hand,say that in September 2023 I earned 189% more,so I write -189% this September 2024.

Is it clearer now?Am I somehow more to your liking this way?

about my "imaginary sales system"

perhaps you can explain to me why in 9 months this year I had the same and identical number of sales for 3 months and another 2 months with a difference of 1 and two sales,with a max difference of 8 sales in 9 months.

in your opinion it is a pure coincidence that every month,since the beginning of this year,I have practically the same number of sales every month!

but do you realize how likely something like this is to happen by chance,in a library of over half a billion contents,among hundreds of thousands of contributors?

In your opinion,how is it possible that in such a context there can be such evident stability?

I don't really understand how you come up with these percentages. Say in 2023 you earned 100$, then I would say -189% would be you lost $89 and +50% would mean you made $150.

It sounds like you are saying -189% means you earned 52.91. I would say that was -47% or that I earned 53% of 2023 income.

As far as variability goes, my earnings are nowhere near as consistent as yours. If there are lots of contributors chances are some are going to have very steady incomes and some will be very variable though. The larger the time period you look at, the smaller the variability should be. Humans can find all sorts of patterns in actual random events, and for various reasons, sales really aren't random.

Injustice for all · « **Reply #81 on:** October 02, 2024, 20:30 »

In September 2023 I earned 189% more than in September 2024.

and that's all,there's nothing else to add.

regarding the sales system,if you have a different opinion,I respect it but I don't share it.

from my point of view,it seems really strange that you cannot see this thing so obvious,clear as sunlight.

even just the fact that we all sell something every day,some more than others,but all of us,in the context in which we find ourselves,with over half a billion contents,and hundreds of thousands of contributors,just this is practically impossible,without a system that manages sales.

not to mention the stability with which we all sell,some more steadily,some less,but from what I've seen,we all have "a range of action" that tends to increase over time,as long as we continue to work.

If you don't see it,don't share it,think I'm crazy or whatever you want,I don't care.

I respect your opinions,I don't share them,but ok,it doesn't matter.

what matters to me is that next year I start earning more.

This week,it started with a different pace,a clear improvement,i hope it continues because I would like to continue this work.

I'm happy with the kind of work I've been doing since few months and it's starting to bear fruit.

I think it's best for me to focus on work and take a break from the forum.

I'll talk to you again in a little while,maybe a few months or weeks,I don't know.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts with me!

In the meantime I wish you all,really all of you,all the best!

The world is beautiful because it is varied,it's a shame we have little time to enjoy it!

cobalt · « **Reply #82 on:** October 03, 2024, 03:07 »

In September 24 you earned a lot less than in September 23?

How is that possible, you greatly increased the size of your port?

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #83 on:** October 03, 2024, 12:50 »

Quote from: pancaketom on October 02, 2024, 13:05

The larger the time period you look at, the smaller the variability should be. Humans can find all sorts of patterns in actual random events, and for various reasons, sales really aren't random.

Backwards from my perspective, correct, sales aren't random and they also aren't controlled. There needs to be a need, and that varies.

Yes, humans see patterns where there are none. Our brains are creative and make associations, sometimes coincidence can look like a pattern.

A larger sample of sales over a longer time, will show less variation.

Last one, which you and other may have answered. The longer that anyone is trying to earn money from Stock Photos, the more images you add, will not produce a proportional or steady gain in income, at the same rate that the earlier images did. Maybe for some people, if they learn and change, but just adding more, new and better, doesn't always equal the same return.

I don't want to be negative, but the facts are and have been and will be:

Microstock is not going to make a comeback. If someone has a RPI of $## for 100 images, they will not have 10 times the RPI for 1,000 images. There is no direct one to one correlation between the number of images and the earnings. The commissions and sales are dropping across the industry. The growth of the stock image industry has slowed or halted.

Images get old, and don't earn as much as they did when they were new.

I made more on SS or IS in a day, some days, 15 years ago, than I make in a month now. I have the same images and many more. How's that for growth? (note: IS did remove my Motorsports images). I made more in the first year at Alamy, for single image sales, than I do in a year for all my sales. I have thousands more images.

Adobe continues to grow for me, or has? But I'm pretty sure I've hit the wall there for income. Steady and holding is far better than anyplace else, as all the rest are making me less and less, every year.