Author Topic: Adobe Roulette Rejections @Raul.Ceron (Read 3078 times)

cobalt · « **Reply #50 on:** May 16, 2025, 23:46 »

@zeljok

the second image has people in it. they might also not like the visible artwork above the door.

illustrative editorial is a weird thing.

@wendy

again, thank you. the whole upload process is on istock is very painful compared to other places. but with the coming merger they should be able to increase sales, so habing content there should help my monthly income.

zeljkok · « **Reply #51 on:** **Yesterday** at 00:05 »

Quote from: cobalt on May 16, 2025, 23:46

the second image has people in it. they might also not like the visible artwork above the door.

illustrative editorial is a weird thing.

Possible; but I had images where people were more recognizable accepted on AS. Artwork - I had whole bunch from Sagrada Familia in Barcelona accepted (as Editorial). So it's not clear at all, at least to me.

This will be a test - conceptually almost identical, just different museum; now waiting for review

Likely rejected, lol

cobalt · « **Reply #52 on:** **Yesterday** at 00:54 »

Good luck!

I am still new to editorial. I do cover the local carnival and some political protests.

But illustrative editorial on adobe will take time to understand.

f8 · « **Reply #53 on:** **Yesterday** at 10:30 »

Quote from: cobalt on Yesterday at 00:54

But illustrative editorial on adobe will take time to understand.

I have lots of experience shooting editorial. Years worth. I have shot for some major magazines and too many inflight magazines to list. I know what editorial content is.

I upload my content of a niche subject matter that is editorial to multiple sites apart from Istock. Istock always rejects them based on needing a property release as they deem so, and their reason is so crystal clear that I don't even bother submitting that content to them. Again, crystal clear.

Enter Adobe "Illustrative Editorial". Their guidelines are very clear and concise and no people at all. The only problem is their roulette rejections are just that, a gamble of my time and effort. I get entire batches accepted, entire batches rejected, and some images from the same batch accepted and the rest rejected. The only common denominator for the rejection is my content does not meet their "Illustrative Editorial Guidelines". I never get similar rejections or quality issue rejections on editorial. Never.

Interestingly the content they do accept sells very well.

I would not waste too much of your time trying to understand Adobe and editorial.

zeljkok · « **Reply #54 on:** **Yesterday** at 14:23 »

Quote from: f8 on Yesterday at 10:30

The only common denominator for the rejection is my content does not meet their "Illustrative Editorial Guidelines".
I would not waste too much of your time trying to understand Adobe and editorial.

Agreed. It is interesting though, AS and IS almost on opposite ends - even silhouette of human 10km away would be recognizable on IS, while AS is generally much more lenient. This is why I uploaded that Reina Sofia shot with people, as it was consistent with my past experience what they would tolerate. IS will also not take any art even as Editorial, and has that Famous rejection reason "This kind of place usually requires tickets/paid access, and as such photography rights are restricted" (something like this).

I tried to understand Adobe "Illustrative Editorial Guidelines", and failed. I don't think their reviewers understand it either. Once I had Image rejected for not meeting guidelines, only to discuss publicly with Matt here, who also couldn't figure out why it was rejected, and accepted it himself (I had downloads later). So it quite senseless, and in line with overall Adobe vibe, specially lately.

P.S. Here is example of my accepted Illustrative Editorial that is getting plenty of downloads:

[San Jose, Costa Rica - January 18, 2019: Concentric Red Circles Abstract Art Detail and Spanish Colonial Architecture on Plaza De Las Artes (Arts Town Square) near City Center]

Note people, note artwork. Maybe I am just dumb, but I can't understand why this one would be ok and Reina Sofia (with people and banner artwork) not

WendyT · « **Reply #55 on:** **Yesterday** at 17:46 »

Quote from: cobalt on May 16, 2025, 23:46

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@wendy

again, thank you. the whole upload process is on istock is very painful compared to other places. but with the coming merger they should be able to increase sales, so habing content there should help my monthly income.

@cobalt
I do not like the ESP process, I find that using DeepMeta certainly streamlines the process.
Having content should definitely help.

zeljkok · « **Reply #56 on:** **Yesterday** at 20:52 »

Quote from: WendyT on Yesterday at 17:46

Quote from: cobalt on May 16, 2025, 23:46
[snip]

@wendy

again, thank you. the whole upload process is on istock is very painful compared to other places. but with the coming merger they should be able to increase sales, so habing content there should help my monthly income.

@cobalt
I do not like the ESP process, I find that using DeepMeta certainly streamlines the process.
Having content should definitely help.

IS submission process is brutal. Amateur platform design should be studied at software courses as example how NOT to do things. Managed keywords nonsense, Artificial Batches, list goes on and above all inability to edit Metadata once image has been submitted/accepted.

Small detail that really irritates me is when session is about to expire, but they don't warn you. So you spend time editing and when you hit "Save" or "Submit" it kicks you off to log back in, and of course work is lost. Every site out there that just do simple pop-up "Your session is about to expire in X minutes. Please save your work and log back in".

You can argue not to use Web Front end for submissions, but if Web Front End is officially supported, this should be fixed

cobalt · « **Reply #57 on:** **Today** at 01:53 »

Their submission torture chamber has not really changed in 20 years.

If the merger allows content from pond5 to be mirrored on istock/getty and has the same sales success as submitting via istock, then I will upload from pond5.

On the other hand in the current climate, the torture chamber helps to repel spammers.

Still, they should have improved their system a longtime ago. And being partnered with nvidia should give them enough software power to not just codevelop ai but also improve their system.

zeljkok · « **Reply #58 on:** **Today** at 13:48 »

I was uploading some photos from my Spain trip this weekend. Alamy / SS / DT / AS / IS. IS takes as much time as other 4 combined.
On the plus side, AS Roulette actually accepted some

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