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« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2025, 11:56 »
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maybe you should start selling less so maybe you understand that these new review favor first of all those who already earn well with images,like Cobalt,because now more than ever those who already sell well with commercial images are more difficult to reach.

and I'm talking about the review,I didn't question anything else,because I also think that there are definitely things that can be improved.

okay,you don't understand,and no one pays me to sit here trying to make you see reason,so go ahead and complain about everything,without first thinking carefully about why certain choices were made.



I have to agree with the previous comment, you express your thoughts in quite an incoherent manner, really hard to understand what are you trying to say.

ok,I'll try to be clear in some points:

-with these review the spam for AI commercial images is over.

-since AI spam is over,those who already have thousands of commercial images see reduced competition,if the review continued as before,the decline in sales would increase,for AI commercial images.

-It's not true that Adobe no longer communicates with us,and I'm telling you this from personal experience,have you tried asking some serious questions,other than the time of the review or the rejections?
If you ask serious questions about important issues,Adobe responds.

-these new review,which includes removing images as has been done,as well as restricting the accepted content,although very harsh,also aim to improve the overall quality of the Adobe library,which is a benefit for everyone.


then my personal opinion,certainly shared by many:

given the current state,AI commercial images can only be a secondary gain,commercial images can no longer be the main dish,better produce videos,illustrative editorials,and even vectors in my opinion,at least for now.


then as far as real commercial images are concerned,i don t know,the topic can be more or less the same,even if different perhaps in some points but I won't go into detail here about real commercial images,because at the moment I don't have direct experience,because I haven't produced real commercial images for some time.


« Reply #26 on: May 12, 2025, 11:56 »
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From 600 images, only around 90 has been accepted, and the rest have been rejected for Quality issue. 😆

my drone content which they only accepted around 10 from 250 .
:o :o :o

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« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2025, 12:36 »
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Funny how this is the communications business and Adobe fails at communication.

Adobe fails at communication because there is no communication.  Nobody has seen your post.   Raul is AiBot, used as fake account for serial announcements. That's all.

And in the meantime spammed shell portfolio is still alive and well.  Moved from page 1 to page 3, and more obvious similars getting accepted from that contributor.  It defies logic, really

https://stock.adobe.com/sg/search/images?creator_id=206533842


« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2025, 15:57 »
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Im still getting 99% approval rate for both photos and videos. Thus, not all Contributor s are experiencing this.

« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2025, 05:25 »
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I am super happy with Adobe and I see very few rejections. Over last 300 videos submitted to them, I think only 5 or 6 got rejected that too because of artefacts or noise or shake issues. I observed review happens on two levels, the first level is where some junior level staff reviews and approves and what he or she cannot decide upon, that is passed to next escalated level where a senior guy will inspect and decide the outcome of process. I have never seen unfair rejection. Adobe is one of the friendliest agencies to contributors and glad to see the legacy of Fotolia is being carried well.

Mir

« Reply #30 on: May 13, 2025, 08:00 »
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I started getting rejections on my vector files for quality issues, they most definitely don't have quality issues. Very discouraging since I create a small amount of vectors. I guess if people are generating images and uploading 300 a day(what I read on forums etc.) it's not a big thing to have half of them rejected, but when I spend a whole day to create a vector or two for them to be rejected is a big deal.

« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2025, 14:49 »
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I have normal reviews for camera video and no rejections for them.

But camera photos, ai photos and illustrations can get the annoying similar decline.

I am now using the ai declines as a basis for ai videos. Especially the people images that need more post processing time, might make their investment back this way.

I cannot comment on ai video yet, because I am still new to that.
« Last Edit: May 13, 2025, 16:00 by cobalt »

« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2025, 15:59 »
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There has been an abrupt change also affecting loads of camera photographers. It is all over the adobe forums and groups. Here an example from the public reddit group.

You see the same declines for camera content in many places.

This did not happen 8 weeks ago.

I sincerely  doubt that thousands of photographers around the globe have suddenly become idiots or no longer know how to use their camera when creating content.

At the same time some ports seem to have a favored status and seem to be able to get really low quality, underexposed crap in with a mind blowing amount of duplicates.

The lack of consistency is the real problem.
« Last Edit: May 13, 2025, 16:09 by cobalt »

« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2025, 16:14 »
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There has been an abrupt change also affecting loads of camera photographers. It is all over the adobe forums and groups. Here an example from the public reddit group.

You see the same declines for camera content in many places.

This did not happen 8 weeks ago.


This situation must be incredibly frustrating, especially given its scale.

My content is quite niche, which may be why my rejection rates are lowthere's simply less competition in Adobe's catalog in my area.

It appears that Adobe has implemented this new system because they were overwhelmed with submissions for content that is already well-represented in their library thanks to AI. As you've pointed out before, if we cannot upload new content, our sales will inevitably decline over time.

It's a really unfortunate situation.

I hope things improve soon for everyone.

zeljkok

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« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2025, 19:42 »
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I would buy into and even support all the "quality" and "unique" theories, if there wasn't for that ultra spammed, but alive and well shells port. Like someone above mentioned, preferential treatment with ability to sneak all kinds of crap in.   How many others like that one are around?

« Reply #35 on: May 14, 2025, 15:38 »
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That port is proof that whatever they are doing is simply not working.

The reviews have no constistency, every time a creator feels safe, the entire batch was approved, the next day it all gets declined again.

Sadly, it looks like they need to feel the burn from creators and customers leaving. But that shift is gradual and if the managers are tone deaf to what the creative community is shouting, then it will all take very long.

So the best thing to do is to go where we are wanted and my impression is that istock is currently making a real effort, not just with exclusives.

My RPD on istock is 64 cents, versus 83 cents on Adobe. So yes, it is less, but not a disaster.

My volume is still very low, but the old port is not yet activated.

« Reply #36 on: May 14, 2025, 17:35 »
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That port is proof that whatever they are doing is simply not working.

The reviews have no constistency, every time a creator feels safe, the entire batch was approved, the next day it all gets declined again.

Sadly, it looks like they need to feel the burn from creators and customers leaving. But that shift is gradual and if the managers are tone deaf to what the creative community is shouting, then it will all take very long.

So the best thing to do is to go where we are wanted and my impression is that istock is currently making a real effort, not just with exclusives.

My RPD on istock is 64 cents, versus 83 cents on Adobe. So yes, it is less, but not a disaster.

My volume is still very low, but the old port is not yet activated.



tell me again how 85/15% is a real effort by Istock for anyone other than them

« Reply #37 on: May 15, 2025, 06:03 »
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Adobe is an under 1 dollar agency.


The difference between rpd 64 cents and rpd 83 cents is..bearable...it is not 2 cents versus 2 dollars.


I am not saying it couldn't be higher, but Adobeis not midstock. You are not getting 10 dollars average on Adobe.


And at the moment  Adobe frustrates me deeply with random review roulette.


At least istock still wants my files.

On paper it is  15/20% for istock and 33/35% royalty from Adobe. But in absolut numbers the difference is less than what percentages suggest.


Adobe has the advantage of free creative suit software for a year with enough sales. And a much better upload system.

But if I cannot grow my port and my sales this year...


...so make istock great again is the result of the random review algo. That is what they wanted, wasn't it?


Why else deeply frustrate your own creator community, if not to make them go away?

Useless little creator ants, who needs them? Ai industrial production will soon replace them all...somebody is certainly thinking that way....
« Last Edit: May 15, 2025, 06:13 by cobalt »

« Reply #38 on: May 15, 2025, 07:09 »
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I would like to clarify that iStock's royalty is 15% on photos and 20% on vectors and videos. (Not saying this is good!) My iStock RPD is frequently above Adobe's for photos and vectors. Adobe is the winner for video RPD.

zeljkok

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« Reply #39 on: May 15, 2025, 12:39 »
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I can also not get over iStock 15% no matter what.  It is disrespectful.  In ideal world reasonable rate at any agency should be 50% at least (Keep dreaming) But it is true that Adobe is not midstock.   Most downloads are around a dollar.  Even SS can still surprise you on occasion.

Btw my reviews on IS are really lagging;  over a month now, and some new files reviewed sooner than older.  This could be related with my upload method:  I don't upload much (5-8 files / week on average) and I don't open new batch every time I upload - simply keep filling same batch until artificial 100 limit is reached.   

« Reply #40 on: May 15, 2025, 13:21 »
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Btw my reviews on IS are really lagging;  over a month now, and some new files reviewed sooner than older.  This could be related with my upload method:  I don't upload much (5-8 files / week on average) and I don't open new batch every time I upload - simply keep filling same batch until artificial 100 limit is reached.

Yes, it is related to your upload method - if you add anything to a batch that is waiting for review, you send the whole batch to the end of the review queue  ::)

zeljkok

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« Reply #41 on: May 15, 2025, 14:03 »
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Btw my reviews on IS are really lagging;  over a month now, and some new files reviewed sooner than older.  This could be related with my upload method:  I don't upload much (5-8 files / week on average) and I don't open new batch every time I upload - simply keep filling same batch until artificial 100 limit is reached.

Yes, it is related to your upload method - if you add anything to a batch that is waiting for review, you send the whole batch to the end of the review queue  ::)

Didn't know that, but if true makes sense.  Illustrates again how clumsy entire IS platform is.  Batches are redundant and completely unnecessary.  Each contributor should simply have 2 streams associated with them:  RF and Editorial,  then FIFO (Queue) review order.

« Reply #42 on: May 15, 2025, 16:57 »
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Btw my reviews on IS are really lagging;  over a month now, and some new files reviewed sooner than older.  This could be related with my upload method:  I don't upload much (5-8 files / week on average) and I don't open new batch every time I upload - simply keep filling same batch until artificial 100 limit is reached.

Yes, it is related to your upload method - if you add anything to a batch that is waiting for review, you send the whole batch to the end of the review queue  ::)

Oh...that explains it. I use "monthly" batches and just keep adding content.

« Reply #43 on: May 15, 2025, 17:31 »
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Btw my reviews on IS are really lagging;  over a month now, and some new files reviewed sooner than older.  This could be related with my upload method:  I don't upload much (5-8 files / week on average) and I don't open new batch every time I upload - simply keep filling same batch until artificial 100 limit is reached.

Yes, it is related to your upload method - if you add anything to a batch that is waiting for review, you send the whole batch to the end of the review queue  ::)

Oh...that explains it. I use "monthly" batches and just keep adding content.

As has been said if you add to a batch it goes back to the end of the queue. Only add to a batch after the current uploaded assets have been reviewed. It does not matter how many batches you have open. The other thing you can do is add assets to a batch and then when you have enough then finish the upload.
The main use of batches is that a "series" is uploaded together and then they will show up in the carousel for "more images from this series" (or whatever they say) ...

zeljkok

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« Reply #44 on: May 15, 2025, 19:21 »
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and in the meantime another brilliant "Quality" rejection



Royal Residential Palace, Madrid Spain
Canon EOS 6D
24-105L Canon Lens
ISO 125 (grain = 0)
F8
4sec exposure
Tripod (obviously)

Happy to show at 200% if anyone is interested

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« Last Edit: May 15, 2025, 23:54 by zeljkok »

« Reply #45 on: May 16, 2025, 07:14 »
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Btw my reviews on IS are really lagging;  over a month now, and some new files reviewed sooner than older.  This could be related with my upload method:  I don't upload much (5-8 files / week on average) and I don't open new batch every time I upload - simply keep filling same batch until artificial 100 limit is reached.

Yes, it is related to your upload method - if you add anything to a batch that is waiting for review, you send the whole batch to the end of the review queue  ::)

Oh...that explains it. I use "monthly" batches and just keep adding content.

As has been said if you add to a batch it goes back to the end of the queue. Only add to a batch after the current uploaded assets have been reviewed. It does not matter how many batches you have open. The other thing you can do is add assets to a batch and then when you have enough then finish the upload.
The main use of batches is that a "series" is uploaded together and then they will show up in the carousel for "more images from this series" (or whatever they say) ...

Again thanks.

I understand the use of a batch if I want to upload a complete series from a shooting. But there should be a simple way to upload mixed files daily.

Maybe I should open more batches by genre instead of monthly - food, travel, easter, xmas, people...

« Reply #46 on: May 16, 2025, 07:17 »
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Somewhere higher up in the chain someone has decided we are just useless little creator ants, probably soon to be replaced by ai software completely and our experience and frustrations don't matter at all.

Just as Shutterstock, contributors are just now "data set".  Once they've trained what they need the original source is no longer required and drains resources paying.
Adobe has quite literally bet the company on AI.  Its only headed one way.

zeljkok

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« Reply #47 on: May 16, 2025, 15:09 »
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Latest AS Review Brilliancy

Accepted as Illustrative Editorial

[Madrid, Spain - January 24, 2025: Famous Reina Sofia Contemporary National Art Museum Entrance. Modern Spanish Artwork Collection, including Pablo Picasso and Salvador Dali]


Same place, just a bit further down the stairs.  "Illustrative Editorial Issue" refusal


(People are too small to be "recognizable", at least by Adobe standards so far)

It is actually becoming entertaining

« Last Edit: May 16, 2025, 15:11 by zeljkok »

« Reply #48 on: May 16, 2025, 18:00 »
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[snip]

I understand the use of a batch if I want to upload a complete series from a shooting. But there should be a simple way to upload mixed files daily.

Maybe I should open more batches by genre instead of monthly - food, travel, easter, xmas, people...

using the batches in that way is probably a good way to do it. I personally just add to a batch in a day and upload, then start a new batch ... I have some batches that only had a couple of images in them. I preferred it when they just did FIFO reviews.

If you do have batches by genre just make sure you dont add to them before the ones already uploaded have been reviewed.

zeljkok

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« Reply #49 on: May 16, 2025, 23:41 »
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I personally just add to a batch in a day and upload, then start a new batch ... I have some batches that only had a couple of images in them. I preferred it when they just did FIFO reviews.

If you do have batches by genre just make sure you dont add to them before the ones already uploaded have been reviewed.

great clarifications Wendy.  Now that I think about it, it is the same as Alamy - each upload session is "batch" in Alamy Image Manager - except that you can't add to it so no confusion is possible.  From now on I will also do as you say, thanks.   Even if I find entire batch concept redundant and completely unnecessary.   


 

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