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Title: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: MatHayward on June 13, 2017, 13:48
Hi All,

I wanted to share some big news with you.

Adobe Stock announced today the availability of editorial content through partnerships with Reuters and USA TODAY Sports. In addition, a Premium collection partnership with Stocksy has been announced. 

We often get the question from our contributor community when we will accept editorial content, so I wanted to let you know that initially, Adobe Stock will be focusing on strategic content partners for the Editorial collection. A broader contributor program for editorial content may be possible at a later time.

There are several blog posts summarizing the changes and announcements here: https://blogs.adobe.com/creativecloud/

-Mat Hayward
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: kevinbrine on June 13, 2017, 13:54
Well that's disappointing.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: stockmn on June 13, 2017, 14:02
So basically nothing for most of us and a split of a split for Stocksy contributors.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: PinHead on June 13, 2017, 14:25
Bad news Mat :( ... So we are forced to sell (editorial) through an agency that is 100 % exclusive and not accepting applications as we speak.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: Stockmaan on June 13, 2017, 14:34
Thanks for sharing info Mat!  :)

Best
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: Dodie on June 13, 2017, 14:37
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Stock Like Only Adobe Can: Adobe Stock Brings New Search Features and Editorial Partnerships to Creatives Worldwide
https://blogs.adobe.com/creativecloud/stock-like-only-adobe-can/ (https://blogs.adobe.com/creativecloud/stock-like-only-adobe-can/)

Great title, indeed only AS can be that original.
So Stocksy is the AS premium collection and all those faithful FT exclusives are left to dry in the sun.

What's next? Only CC users can upload to AS?
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: PinHead on June 13, 2017, 14:42
It looks like I got it wrong, the big news is for Stocksy contributors. Sorry
Bad news Mat :( ... So we are forced to sell (editorial) through an agency that is 100 % exclusive and not accepting applications as we speak.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: StockPhotosArt.com on June 13, 2017, 15:09
A very, very large part of what I sell in all agencies are editorial images. It's very disappointing not to be able to have those images on Fotolia where I'm sure they would sell great.

In fact, some of the images that I can get accepted at Fotolia as commercial are in most cases not even near the best sellers I have of that same subject on the agencies that accepted the editorial photos.

Fotolia is missing a very large market by putting itself out of the Editorial section.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: Tyson Anderson on June 13, 2017, 16:05
No complaints, looks like a good opportunity.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on June 13, 2017, 16:37
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Stock Like Only Adobe Can: Adobe Stock Brings New Search Features and Editorial Partnerships to Creatives Worldwide
https://blogs.adobe.com/creativecloud/stock-like-only-adobe-can/ (https://blogs.adobe.com/creativecloud/stock-like-only-adobe-can/)

Great title, indeed only AS can be that original.
So Stocksy is the AS premium collection and all those faithful FT exclusives are left to dry in the sun.

What's next? Only CC users can upload to AS?

Stocksy is just one of a number of contributors to AS Premium.  We're really excited about it.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: Shelma1 on June 13, 2017, 17:27
Yay for half a dozen people! Why would you announce this here? It would be much better received at Stocksy forums (I'm assuming Stocksy has forums). For the rest of us it means editorial competition we are no part of.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: trek on June 13, 2017, 17:42
I'm eagerly looking forward to contributing editorial content when "a broader contributor program for editorial content" is available. 

Thanks to Mat for letting us know about policy changes.  Wish other agencies communicated as clearly. 
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: jonbull on June 13, 2017, 17:58
soon stocksy will be like another micro stock agency...clearly.
no sense in selling in adobe. disappointing.
also i sell most of my image as editorial in ss and alamy, disappointed to see no editorial , i'm sure it would have boosted my revenue.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: sharpshot on June 13, 2017, 18:06
Why would editorial buyers use a site that has limited content?  I also don't see how this fits in with the Stocksy ethos?  What cut do Stocksy contributors get after Adobe have taken their percentage?
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on June 13, 2017, 19:36
Yay for half a dozen people! Why would you announce this here? It would be much better received at Stocksy forums (I'm assuming Stocksy has forums). For the rest of us it means editorial competition we are no part of.

We've known about this for some time.  It was discussed extensively in our forums when the opportunity arose, and the terms and details got a very positive response from the contributor base.  We feel Adobe is a great company to partner with (especially given the options, lol). 
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: Shelma1 on June 13, 2017, 20:37
Well, that seems like the appropriate place to discuss it. Not exciting news at all for most of us here. Kind of has a certain "rub your nose in it" feel to it. Lol, as they say.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: michaeldb on June 13, 2017, 20:50
It is "exciting news". As that phrase has taken on a special meaning in microstock. Looks like Adobe is beginning to implement the sort of divisive and inexplicably self-destructive policies which allowed iStock to successfully blow the huge headstart it had in the industry while simultaneously alienating almost all of its suppliers. As the saying goes, history doesn't really repeat itself but it does rhyme.

The exciting news will be good news for Shutterstock and Adobe's other competitors - who will enjoy seeing Adobe shoot itself in the foot the way iStock did so often - and Stocksy contributors.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: angelawaye on June 13, 2017, 21:03
I don't do editorial so I guess this news has nothing to offer me?
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: Chichikov on June 13, 2017, 23:04
Thank you Mat.
But this is far to be a good or exciting new for the most of us…
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: Justanotherphotographer on June 13, 2017, 23:50
Appreciate it being posted here. It is good to be kept in the loop even if it doesn't help most of us.

I am happy for stocksy contributors. I think it's great that there's an agency out there being run by its contributors even if I don't get to be in on it.

Keeping my fingers crossed for editorial being accepted from the rest of us in the long run.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: derek on June 14, 2017, 00:41
This is the kiss of death!!  truth is that stocksy probably needs extra business! and at the same time it seems Adobe will cash in??over the years I have got to know quite a few people at stocksy and they are not too happy. Editorial??  well Alamy have got billions of that. Whats the point of saturating, flooding the market even more?  I'm out of Adobe!  they should stick to what they do best, programs and softwares!
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: Dodie on June 14, 2017, 01:34
Stocksy is just one of a number of contributors to AS Premium.  We're really excited about it.
We've known about this for some time.  It was discussed extensively in our forums when the opportunity arose, and the terms and details got a very positive response from the contributor base.  We feel Adobe is a great company to partner with (especially given the options, lol). 


I assume when you say "we", you mean Stocksy members because I don't see the excitement elsewhere.
You probably know more details than we do about this partnership and contributors' (cooperators) commission. Probably they will not be payed with AS flat 33%.

Some people who really knows what stock is (http://arcurs.com/2015/10/a-closer-look-at-adobe-stock/) don't see AS contributors' future in such a bright light.

Of course, I wish all Stocksy colleagues much success.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on June 14, 2017, 02:48
Some people who really knows what stock is ([url]http://arcurs.com/2015/10/a-closer-look-at-adobe-stock/[/url]) don't see AS contributors' future in such a bright light.


MSG members discussed that quite extensively back when: http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-big-6/yuri-arcurs-comments-on-adobe-stock/ (http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-big-6/yuri-arcurs-comments-on-adobe-stock/)
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: everest on June 14, 2017, 03:20
This is the kiss of death!!  truth is that stocksy probably needs extra business! and at the same time it seems Adobe will cash in??over the years I have got to know quite a few people at stocksy and they are not too happy. Editorial??  well Alamy have got billions of that. Whats the point of saturating, flooding the market even more?  I'm out of Adobe!  they should stick to what they do best, programs and softwares!

Calm down. No kisses of death anywhere. Stocksy needs extra business as everybody else you and me included. And if you know "not happy" Stocksy contributors I know some that are happy. Right now they are by far the most contributor friendly agency around by far. "Adobe will cash in".... good for them, that's what's all about in the photostock world. The point of saturating the market ?¿?huh... Every agency is looking for good and varied content to offer to their buyers, and yes Adobe is great doing software and it is also trying to be better selling content. What's the big deal. A great move for them, great news to Stocksy contributors and maybe  every other contributor that shoots editorial if the finally open that door completely. No need for all the drama in your post.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: Dodie on June 14, 2017, 04:06
Some people who really knows what stock is ([url]http://arcurs.com/2015/10/a-closer-look-at-adobe-stock/[/url]) don't see AS contributors' future in such a bright light.


MSG members discussed that quite extensively back when: [url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-big-6/yuri-arcurs-comments-on-adobe-stock/[/url] ([url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-big-6/yuri-arcurs-comments-on-adobe-stock/[/url])

Thanks for the link, I didn't know about that thread. I quickly read a few posts, most of them envious.
Anyway, now after almost two years later and analyzing my own performance (better said decline) I don't see a bright feature at AS for myself. I have a feeling that I'm not alone.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: StockPhotosArt.com on June 14, 2017, 05:19
Editorial??  well Alamy have got billions of that. Whats the point of saturating, flooding the market even more?  I'm out of Adobe!  they should stick to what they do best, programs and softwares!

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Alamy does not compare directly to micro agencies since they accept EVERYTHING that's in focus and without dust spots, and Micro curates their collection, although not as tightly as before. Price points are also different with Alamy having a much higher average sale value, even if that has dramatically decreased in the last years.

Plus, I cannot see how Adobe would saturate the market by simply accepting editorial content already available everywhere else. After all their Commercial collection is nothing more than a replication of the same images seen at all other major agencies. What difference would it make to add an editorial section?

What I am certain is that Adobe is losing a lot of clients that also need Editorial content and go to other agencies where all of their needs are satisfied. After all why would a designer that needs editorial content stay with Adobe if they can find the same Commercial content, plus the Editorial one elsewhere?

Considering that Adobe is on the rise this would be a great move.

BTW, stop the over-inflated drama.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: jonbull on June 14, 2017, 06:30
Everything begin like this in any agency...some year of good motivation and pink glasses...then come the partnership and cut royalty in half....then come  lower price to attract more buyera...then come the cut of royalty to keep up with competition. Seen already in many places.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: jonbull on June 14, 2017, 06:32
Editorial??  well Alamy have got billions of that. Whats the point of saturating, flooding the market even more?  I'm out of Adobe!  they should stick to what they do best, programs and softwares!

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Alamy does not compare directly to micro agencies since they accept EVERYTHING that's in focus and without dust spots, and Micro curates their collection, although not as tightly as before. Price points are also different with Alamy having a much higher average sale value, even if that has dramatically decreased in the last years.

Plus, I cannot see how Adobe would saturate the market by simply accepting editorial content already available everywhere else. After all their Commercial collection is nothing more than a replication of the same images seen at all other major agencies. What difference would it make to add an editorial section?

What I am certain is that Adobe is losing a lot of clients that also need Editorial content and go to other agencies where all of their needs are satisfied. After all why would a designer that needs editorial content stay with Adobe if they can find the same Commercial content, plus the Editorial one elsewhere?

Considering that Adobe is on the rise this would be a great move.


On ten rise? I doubt.

BTW, stop the over-inflated drama.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: jjneff on June 14, 2017, 06:49
Adobe is playing a good game here, I for one am happy to support them with my video/photo. Keep in mind they are the 800lb. Gorilla not Getty! They treat the artist much better then Getty!!! and they will continue to grow. I love seeing these deals as buyers will go where the content is. I haven't been yanked around on my commissions there and the site is fast and clean with good search results.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: jonbull on June 14, 2017, 06:55
Adobe is playing a good game here, I for one am happy to support them with my video/photo. Keep in mind they are the 800lb. Gorilla not Getty! They treat the artist much better then Getty!!! and they will continue to grow. I love seeing these deals as buyers will go where the content is. I haven't been yanked around on my commissions there and the site is fast and clean with good search results.
sure but distributing files of a company who was born as anthisesis of micro stock is wrong both for stocksy contributor, i like stocksy agency, and fotolia contributor too.
everything is simply done to make more agency owner cash in more and more, and contributors less and less.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: Brightontl on June 14, 2017, 06:58
Matt,
thanks for communicating with us, as usual.
I suppose both these partnerships only apply for still images and not for video, is this correct?
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: Pauws99 on June 14, 2017, 07:27
Its not good news for me.....but credit to Matt for coming on here to tell us. Whether its good for adobe as far as I'm concerned is academic. But its hardly something hugely dramatic. I hope it doesn't slow any moves to get editorial on Abode...if they had this I'm sure they would be very close to being ahead of SS for me.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: StockPhotosArt.com on June 14, 2017, 07:56
On ten rise? I doubt.

Although I'm earning less than half of what I used to make in 2010, and hitting rock-bottom in 2013 (only 2007 was worse), the fact is that in 2016 I saw a rise of 55% when compared to 2014.

The truth is that since Adobe took over Fotolia I saw an immediate boost in sales and they have been steadily growing ever since. Even if I only send them a fraction of my photos and videos since they don't accept editorial.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: derby on June 14, 2017, 08:05
Everything begin like this in any agency...some year of good motivation and pink glasses...then come the partnership and cut royalty in half....then come  lower price to attract more buyera...then come the cut of royalty to keep up with competition. Seen already in many places.

I don't believe AS will fall this way.
There is main difference between Adobe and competitor agencies: sell mictostock is NOT Adobe core business.
They could simply pay contributors and give out images for free, just to give Adobe products customer a big service and advantage.
Software developmente is the core business for Adobe, so I don't believe they have any interest in lowering contributor rates and make them angry. Adobe simply don't need to make money with photos and videos.

This is only opinion of course, let's see what will happen.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: sharpshot on June 14, 2017, 08:50
Stocksy is just one of a number of contributors to AS Premium.  We're really excited about it.
We've known about this for some time.  It was discussed extensively in our forums when the opportunity arose, and the terms and details got a very positive response from the contributor base.  We feel Adobe is a great company to partner with (especially given the options, lol). 


I assume when you say "we", you mean Stocksy members because I don't see the excitement elsewhere.
You probably know more details than we do about this partnership and contributors' (cooperators) commission. Probably they will not be payed with AS flat 33%.

Some people who really knows what stock is ([url]http://arcurs.com/2015/10/a-closer-look-at-adobe-stock/[/url]) don't see AS contributors' future in such a bright light.

Of course, I wish all Stocksy colleagues much success.
It doesn't matter how well you know what stock is if you can't be unbiased.  Getty/istock exclusives are going to be biased.  They might still make some good points but you have to be able to separate them from the propaganda.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: ShadySue on June 14, 2017, 08:55
Stocksy is just one of a number of contributors to AS Premium.  We're really excited about it.
We've known about this for some time.  It was discussed extensively in our forums when the opportunity arose, and the terms and details got a very positive response from the contributor base.  We feel Adobe is a great company to partner with (especially given the options, lol). 


I assume when you say "we", you mean Stocksy members because I don't see the excitement elsewhere.
You probably know more details than we do about this partnership and contributors' (cooperators) commission. Probably they will not be payed with AS flat 33%.

Some people who really knows what stock is ([url]http://arcurs.com/2015/10/a-closer-look-at-adobe-stock/[/url]) don't see AS contributors' future in such a bright light.

Of course, I wish all Stocksy colleagues much success.
It doesn't matter how well you know what stock is if you can't be unbiased.  Getty/istock exclusives are going to be biased.  They might still make some good points but you have to be able to separate them from the propaganda.

Why introduce the concept of iS exclusives to this thread?
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: sharpshot on June 14, 2017, 09:01
Everything begin like this in any agency...some year of good motivation and pink glasses...then come the partnership and cut royalty in half....then come  lower price to attract more buyera...then come the cut of royalty to keep up with competition. Seen already in many places.

I don't believe AS will fall this way.
There is main difference between Adobe and competitor agencies: sell mictostock is NOT Adobe core business.
They could simply pay contributors and give out images for free, just to give Adobe products customer a big service and advantage.
Software developmente is the core business for Adobe, so I don't believe they have any interest in lowering contributor rates and make them angry. Adobe simply don't need to make money with photos and videos.

This is only opinion of course, let's see what will happen.
If it becomes harder to make profits from the software business, guess who they will be looking at taking money from.  If they really wanted to separate themselves from the other big microstock sites, they could pay us 50%.  Other smaller sites already do that and there's no reason why Adobe couldn't.  So I think they already need the money from microstock and there's a good chance they will want a bigger cut in the future.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: sharpshot on June 14, 2017, 09:05
Stocksy is just one of a number of contributors to AS Premium.  We're really excited about it.
We've known about this for some time.  It was discussed extensively in our forums when the opportunity arose, and the terms and details got a very positive response from the contributor base.  We feel Adobe is a great company to partner with (especially given the options, lol). 


I assume when you say "we", you mean Stocksy members because I don't see the excitement elsewhere.
You probably know more details than we do about this partnership and contributors' (cooperators) commission. Probably they will not be payed with AS flat 33%.

Some people who really knows what stock is ([url]http://arcurs.com/2015/10/a-closer-look-at-adobe-stock/[/url]) don't see AS contributors' future in such a bright light.

Of course, I wish all Stocksy colleagues much success.
It doesn't matter how well you know what stock is if you can't be unbiased.  Getty/istock exclusives are going to be biased.  They might still make some good points but you have to be able to separate them from the propaganda.

Why introduce the concept of iS exclusives to this thread?
Because he linked to an article about adobe stock by an iS exclusive and said "people who really knows what stock is".  I think it's worth pointing out that an article about adobe stock by someone who is exclusive with is/getty might not be unbiased.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: ShadySue on June 14, 2017, 09:53
Stocksy is just one of a number of contributors to AS Premium.  We're really excited about it.
We've known about this for some time.  It was discussed extensively in our forums when the opportunity arose, and the terms and details got a very positive response from the contributor base.  We feel Adobe is a great company to partner with (especially given the options, lol). 


I assume when you say "we", you mean Stocksy members because I don't see the excitement elsewhere.
You probably know more details than we do about this partnership and contributors' (cooperators) commission. Probably they will not be payed with AS flat 33%.

Some people who really knows what stock is ([url]http://arcurs.com/2015/10/a-closer-look-at-adobe-stock/[/url]) don't see AS contributors' future in such a bright light.

Of course, I wish all Stocksy colleagues much success.
It doesn't matter how well you know what stock is if you can't be unbiased.  Getty/istock exclusives are going to be biased.  They might still make some good points but you have to be able to separate them from the propaganda.

Why introduce the concept of iS exclusives to this thread?
Because he linked to an article about adobe stock by an iS exclusive and said "people who really knows what stock is".  I think it's worth pointing out that an article about adobe stock by someone who is exclusive with is/getty might not be unbiased.

Oh, fair enough. That Yuri article was indeed particularly bad.
As someone who is only uploading to Alamy nowadays, I'll stick my biassed oar in and say I don't see any advantage in another outlet for cheap editorial photos.
I think adobe might be quite desperate. I keep mishitting keys in the software and getting invites (generic, not personal lol)  to sell to or buy from Adobestock, also when I update, look for info etc.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: MatHayward on June 14, 2017, 11:19
Yay for half a dozen people! Why would you announce this here? It would be much better received at Stocksy forums (I'm assuming Stocksy has forums). For the rest of us it means editorial competition we are no part of.

I appreciate your feedback . It is important to me to communcate changes happening at Adobe Stock to you whenever I can in as timely a manner as possible. Some of the changes I announce will have an impact on you, others may not. Regardless, I think it's very important that our contributor community stays informed.

Thanks,

Mat 

Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: Shelma1 on June 14, 2017, 11:40
Maybe not start it off with "big news," then. Because the affected people already knew the news, and for the rest of us an announcement that hey, you've been asking Adobe to accept editorial images, and now Adobe IS accepting editorial images, just not from you, is maybe not so great.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: Brightontl on June 14, 2017, 12:45
I am not really sure about what is going on. Maybe someone more experienced than me may explain.

So, Adobe makes a deal first with Pond 5, then with Stocksy, to distribute their products, footage in the first case, stills in the second.
Ok, probably Adobe wins from this: it gets a cut of the sale from both agencies and increase the size and quality of its collection, on the way to become a one-stop shop (especially if it starts accepting editorial, Adobe BIG weak point so far).

Regarding Pond 5 and Stocksy I fail to see their interest: they get a reduced commission on sales that they would have had anyway. At the same time they contribute to make a competitor much, much stronger.
Maybe Adobe platform and marketing capabilities are scaring other companies to death...

In the meantime, the minnows (Dreamstime, 123 RF, DP, etc) have practically disappeared from the map.
Pond 5 since the announcement of the partnership has become a ghost town
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: Brightontl on June 14, 2017, 12:47
Are we going towards a 3 man market? (Adobe, SS and Getty)
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: jonbull on June 14, 2017, 13:17
I am not really sure about what is going on. Maybe someone more experienced than me may explain.

So, Adobe makes a deal first with Pond 5, then with Stocksy, to distribute their products, footage in the first case, stills in the second.
Ok, probably Adobe wins from this: it gets a cut of the sale from both agencies and increase the size and quality of its collection, on the way to become a one-stop shop (especially if it starts accepting editorial, Adobe BIG weak point so far).

Regarding Pond 5 and Stocksy I fail to see their interest: they get a reduced commission on sales that they would have had anyway. At the same time they contribute to make a competitor much, much stronger.
Maybe Adobe platform and marketing capabilities are scaring other companies to death...

In the meantime, the minnows (Dreamstime, 123 RF, DP, etc) have practically disappeared from the map.
Pond 5 since the announcement of the partnership has become a ghost town

dreamstime for me this month is back to good results, but all the minor big stock 123rf deposit and can stock account for maybe 3 dollar.
i agree for the rest.
highly volatile sell, one day good in all agency, then last three days appalling shutter stock...
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: jonbull on June 14, 2017, 13:20
Are we going towards a 3 man market? (Adobe, SS and Getty)

dreamstime for me can hit back if they change something. it has good customer base. this week i have more sales there than shutter stock so far and this never happened in last 4 years.
the rest can go bankrupt for what i care, they add 0,1 % to my total earning.
what surprise me mostly is the fact that stocksy is beginning the road to becoming another already seen company.
i waited for them to reopen the call to submit a 1000 files i have already prepared, but i think i will share them between offset and alamy rm.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: jodijacobson on June 15, 2017, 00:19
I hope ADOBE does wonderful. I own 700 shares of their stock. I'm thrilled to be exclusive and uploading as much editorial to Istock/Getty as I can shoot, and getting paid well for it. Those 2 cent sales are few and far between.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: MicroShmuck on June 15, 2017, 00:30
Sounds like ALL the stock agencies treat contributors like sh..t. Maybe I should relook at Istock exclusive. We are the reason the agencies exist but they don't give one F..k about us. None of them. Just worried about their own pockets.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: jonbull on June 15, 2017, 06:17
Sounds like ALL the stock agencies treat contributors like sh..t. Maybe I should relook at Istock exclusive. We are the reason the agencies exist but they don't give one F..k about us. None of them. Just worried about their own pockets.

i agree....for me this speaks a lot about stocksy future...they not have the results they thought and thy begin looking to deals...from selling to other agency to lowering the royalty and price is a second...we have already seen this in 500px for example, ok 500 px was not good like stocksy.
in my opinion while stocksy is very artistic and i like the mood of most of the photos, clearly a community of artist before than stock photographer. i think is a niche that can soon become obsolete. especially in travel they luck a lot cause 99% of photos are like instagram feed...desaturated look, grainy, pale colors...those kind of photos that make madagascar sea like canada sea for example.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: EnginKorkmaz on June 15, 2017, 11:58
This news could as well be sent via email to those whom it may concern. You could even call and tell them. If I was an editorial buyer, why would I bother to even think about searching images on such a picky and "elite" site? People need very diverse type of images; both editorial and commercial. Not only sparkling clear studio shots with perfect professional lighting. I myself needed a lot images that don't look stockie in the past and fotolia was not the right place to look.

News happen any time, anywhere and you never know who will need them, when and why they need them.

Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: jodijacobson on June 15, 2017, 13:46
This news could as well be sent via email to those whom it may concern. You could even call and tell them. If I was an editorial buyer, why would I bother to even think about searching images on such a picky and "elite" site? People need very diverse type of images; both editorial and commercial. Not only sparkling clear studio shots with perfect professional lighting. I myself needed a lot images that don't look stockie in the past and fotolia was not the right place to look.

News happen any time, anywhere and you never know who will need them, when and why they need them.
Well please keep an eye on my port, I shoot real life, real light, real people. Editorial and commercial,
Istockphoto.com/jodijacobson I have 22000 photo's online and add more everyday. I always have my camera on my shoulder. I also shoot on spec and put them up on Getty
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: cathyslife on June 15, 2017, 15:08
This news could as well be sent via email to those whom it may concern. You could even call and tell them. If I was an editorial buyer, why would I bother to even think about searching images on such a picky and "elite" site? People need very diverse type of images; both editorial and commercial. Not only sparkling clear studio shots with perfect professional lighting. I myself needed a lot images that don't look stockie in the past and fotolia was not the right place to look.

News happen any time, anywhere and you never know who will need them, when and why they need them.
Well please keep an eye on my port, I shoot real life, real light, real people. Editorial and commercial,
Istockphoto.com/jodijacobson I have 22000 photo's online and add more everyday. I always have my camera on my shoulder. I also shoot on spec and put them up on Getty


Seriously? An advert?  ::)
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on June 15, 2017, 15:12
Be careful when you post a portfolio link...  You never know what you'll get, lol.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: cobalt on June 15, 2017, 16:53
I hope this means that in a few months, when Adobe sees how editorial sells, that they will open up their plattform for all artists to submit editorial content.

Especially for video I find it certainly worth while and with the global reach of the fotolia community it would be a shame to neglect this important resource that can bring you fresh editorial content from around the world.

Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: 50% on June 16, 2017, 04:15
They are looking for real editorial content not the unretouched iPhone showing a Google search. They are aiming to be the next Getty why should they waste time with the lame pseudo-editorial content from microstockers. I understand the frustation but they obviously doing everything right!
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: cobalt on June 16, 2017, 11:29
Getty sells tons of iphone video.

How else do you think todays news market works? That every time something happens they fly out a team of 5 people, lay tracks or bring in the helicopter?

News has to be fast.

CNN just streamed the London fire disaster live from their iphone.

Besides, whole movies are being recorded on iphones these days.

Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: increasingdifficulty on June 16, 2017, 11:33
Getty sells tons of iphone video.

How else do you think todays news market works? That every time something happens they fly out a team of 5 people, lay tracks or bring in the helicopter?

News has to be fast.

CNN just streamed the London fire disaster live from their iphone.

Besides, whole movies are being recorded on iphones these days.

Sure, but that is not what 50% wrote... Read again.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: jodijacobson on June 16, 2017, 16:55
This news could as well be sent via email to those whom it may concern. You could even call and tell them. If I was an editorial buyer, why would I bother to even think about searching images on such a picky and "elite" site? People need very diverse type of images; both editorial and commercial. Not only sparkling clear studio shots with perfect professional lighting. I myself needed a lot images that don't look stockie in the past and fotolia was not the right place to look.

News happen any time, anywhere and you never know who will need them, when and why they need them.
Well please keep an eye on my port, I shoot real life, real light, real people. Editorial and commercial,
Istockphoto.com/jodijacobson I have 22000 photo's online and add more everyday. I always have my camera on my shoulder. I also shoot on spec and put them up on Getty


Seriously? An advert?  ::)
Yes Seriously! How serious are you about making money?
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: jodijacobson on June 16, 2017, 16:58
Be careful when you post a portfolio link...  You never know what you'll get, lol.
you mean like sales? lol or copy cats?
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on June 16, 2017, 18:59
Like a critique... :)
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: YadaYadaYada on June 16, 2017, 20:55
Yay for half a dozen people! Why would you announce this here? It would be much better received at Stocksy forums (I'm assuming Stocksy has forums). For the rest of us it means editorial competition we are no part of.

I appreciate your feedback . It is important to me to communcate changes happening at Adobe Stock to you whenever I can in as timely a manner as possible. Some of the changes I announce will have an impact on you, others may not. Regardless, I think it's very important that our contributor community stays informed.

Thanks,

Mat

Yes Mat I appreciate the news and maybe it's an indication that we might be able to upload Editorial some day. Since my name isn't Reuters or USA Today, it doesn't mean anything except some hope for the future.  :) As usual I'd rather hear from you and the agency and not someone who read someplace about a new deal that's not announced where Adobe made a new partner agreement.

Up front from Adobe and I like that.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: cathyslife on June 17, 2017, 04:06
This news could as well be sent via email to those whom it may concern. You could even call and tell them. If I was an editorial buyer, why would I bother to even think about searching images on such a picky and "elite" site? People need very diverse type of images; both editorial and commercial. Not only sparkling clear studio shots with perfect professional lighting. I myself needed a lot images that don't look stockie in the past and fotolia was not the right place to look.

News happen any time, anywhere and you never know who will need them, when and why they need them.
Well please keep an eye on my port, I shoot real life, real light, real people. Editorial and commercial,
Istockphoto.com/jodijacobson I have 22000 photo's online and add more everyday. I always have my camera on my shoulder. I also shoot on spec and put them up on Getty


Seriously? An advert?  ::)
Yes Seriously! How serious are you about making money?


You cant be that serious. This is a forum of mostly competitors. Serious would be if you pushed your port in places where buyers actually hang out. To me, this seems more like bragging.  ;)
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: jodijacobson on June 17, 2017, 16:19
The guy above me said he was a buyer so I posted that. But if you call it bragging...OK. I agree. With all my hard work over the last 30 years with slides at RM agencies and 10 at IS, never missing a day uploading and still making a living, I've earned my bragging rights. I'll brag that I work really hard at stock photography.
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: DiscreetDuck on June 17, 2017, 17:04
Besides, whole movies are being recorded on iphones these days.
iphones are of course the only smartphones able to capture videos...
Yes, and Apple invented the mouse, GUI with windows etc...  ::)
Title: Re: Adobe Stock announces availability of editorial content and Stocksy partnership
Post by: ShadySue on June 17, 2017, 17:04
The guy above me said he was a buyer so I posted that.
No, he didn't, he said, "If I was an editorial buyer, why would I ..." and "I ... needed"