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« Reply #75 on: April 17, 2021, 06:03 »
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In a few years ... ist there a chance to get $0,00001 Sales?
I guess there is no accounting program dealing with this small numbers.
Its not the case that i have to deal with this small numbers now.
But in a few years with 600 Sales for $0,00001 each. I will need an update for the accounting program.


« Reply #76 on: April 17, 2021, 11:52 »
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I just informed Wirestock about it - I even had to write them about other things anyway. And I told them: Who knows, maybe Adobe allows Wirestock to opt out from that crap new idea? If yes: Wirestock might get many new contributors, who upload via wirestock instead of uploading themselves! Maybe deleting all images and upload via wirestock again to get fair prices from Adobe, which would be still higher with the 15% cut from wirestock.

AAAAH! ADOBE! AT LEASST we all know it but did not want to believe ourselves.

Dreamstime is for sure the next, but until then maybe our new favourite?

What is left?

As already often mentioned:

We should ALL close our accounts everywhere (Yay, SS, is, Adobe,123, Deposit, ...
and only sell on Alamy (RM without private use), Zoonar (take care on which partners there!), Photocase, and Pond5!
Then we can decide:
Best photos as explained above.
Typical stockphotos we do not really care about - to normal, nothing special: Still upload to the devils like SS and so on.

Customers then must search for the good photos on the fair agencies and on all others they will only find that crap normal photos - nothing special.

I really do not know, why we are not doing it!?
After Istock/Getty, shutterstock and NOW ADOBE:
What else do we need to wake up?

LETs SHOCK them all by leaving that unfair agencies!


« Reply #77 on: April 17, 2021, 13:04 »
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I unsubscribe yesterday.
i had all apps but i was just using it for after effects. I find Davinci real better for editing.
But now I am going to try Fusion. it seems very good,  its free and it's more used here for commercials and movies.
I think there is no point of spending 36,89 a month when i can get better for free now.

starting cut somewhere.
love you too adobe :-)

Capture One on trial here. It seems that now is the right time to stop using Creative Cloud. I certainly won't miss it. Thank you Adobe!

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« Reply #78 on: April 17, 2021, 13:12 »
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LETs SHOCK them all by leaving that unfair agencies!
'
Like everyone 'shocked' Shutterstock? Yeah, I bet they're still reeling from the less than 1% of their content that was removed (and replaced within a week) and the almost trebling of their share price. 

Clair Voyant

« Reply #79 on: April 17, 2021, 14:14 »
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LETs SHOCK them all by leaving that unfair agencies!
'
Like everyone 'shocked' Shutterstock? Yeah, I bet they're still reeling from the less than 1% of their content that was removed (and replaced within a week) and the almost trebling of their share price.

But we do have a choice of what software to use. Premiere or Da Vinci? Photoshop, Illustrator or Affinity?



« Reply #80 on: April 17, 2021, 14:59 »
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As graphic designer, I can't use another software, but I happily started deleting images I like best. Not to shock them, but because my dignity. Maybe I would wait and see if it was just change in earnings, but I won't give my work under extended license for cents or couple of dollars, no chance.

I hope that other contributors will do same thing, if not immediately, then after same time. It seems they prefer premium images anyway, so be it.

Thanks Adobe for helping me get rid of my stupid microstock addiction! Shutterstock started it, but you definitely finished it.
« Last Edit: April 18, 2021, 03:45 by Lina »

Clair Voyant

« Reply #81 on: April 17, 2021, 15:17 »
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As graphic designer, I can't use another software, but I happily started deleting images I like best. Not to shock them, but because my dignity. Maybe I would wait and see if it was just change in earnings, but I won't give my work under extended license for cents or couple of dollars, no chance.

I hope that other contributors will do same thing, if not immediately, than after same time. It seems they prefer premium images anyway, so be it.

Thanks Adobe for helping me get rid of my stupid microstock addiction! Shutterstock started it, but you definitely finished it.

Actually you can if you choose to. My long time graphic designer friend dropped Adobe for Affinity and loves the savings. He introduced my wife to Affinity and she too loves the savings and they both still design.

As mentioned above I dropped Premiere for Da Vinci. The program does more than I need or even what I am capable of in editing and the monthly/annual savings is noted.



« Last Edit: April 17, 2021, 15:22 by Clair Voyant »

« Reply #82 on: April 17, 2021, 15:36 »
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Actually you can if you choose to. My long time graphic designer friend dropped Adobe for Affinity and loves the savings. He introduced my wife to Affinity and she too loves the savings and they both still design.

As mentioned above I dropped Premiere for Da Vinci. The program does more than I need or even what I am capable of in editing and the monthly/annual savings is noted.

When I started doing video a few years ago, I checked out both Adobe's Premiere and Apple's Final Cut Pro.

Ultimately, I chose Final Cut Pro, because it was an old-fashioned one-and-done purchase (like Photoshop used to be), not an annual subscription. I've never regretted that decision. And I still do really like FCP.

Of course, I've since become rather fond of the free Photoshop/Lightroom combo that Adobe has been giving me in exchange for my meeting their sales requirements for that benefit.

It remains to be seen if I'll continue to meet those requirements going forward.

Nothing I've read here has made me any less disappointed in Adobe Stock than when Mat first dropped this exciting news on us.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2021, 15:40 by marthamarks »

« Reply #83 on: April 17, 2021, 15:48 »
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Actually you can if you choose to. My long time graphic designer friend dropped Adobe for Affinity and loves the savings. He introduced my wife to Affinity and she too loves the savings and they both still design.

As mentioned above I dropped Premiere for Da Vinci. The program does more than I need or even what I am capable of in editing and the monthly/annual savings is noted.

My biggest clients have CC subscription, we are sending files to each other all the time. So I really can't.

Mir

« Reply #84 on: April 17, 2021, 19:07 »
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Many people are changing to Affinity.

« Reply #85 on: April 17, 2021, 20:55 »
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Lina, I am sorry to ear your case. Probably you need to be in the same "page" as them.

Anyway just let you know that you can import psd files into Affinity and also convert to be open in photoshop.
There are tutorials around internet and youtube that can help you with that.

Oh! One other thing... Affinity is now 27,99/lifetime but you can try it for free too.
Maybe you can see if this can work for you. 


« Reply #86 on: April 17, 2021, 21:21 »
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Funny how things work sometimes, but just tonight (a Saturday night), I got an email notice of a 60% royalty payment from Pond 5 for one of my exclusive videos there.

That one payment is more than I've been getting from Adobe Stock in a couple of months.

So, hey, that quickly improved my attitude toward microstock. A lot!  :D

« Reply #87 on: April 17, 2021, 21:44 »
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Funny how things work sometimes, but just tonight (a Saturday night), I got an email notice of a 60% royalty payment from Pond 5 for one of my exclusive videos there.

That one payment is more than I've been getting from Adobe Stock in a couple of months.

So, hey, that quickly improved my attitude toward microstock. A lot!  :D
Congratulations!  :)

« Reply #88 on: April 17, 2021, 21:53 »
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Funny how things work sometimes, but just tonight (a Saturday night), I got an email notice of a 60% royalty payment from Pond 5 for one of my exclusive videos there.

That one payment is more than I've been getting from Adobe Stock in a couple of months.

So, hey, that quickly improved my attitude toward microstock. A lot!  :D
Congratulations!  :)


Thank you! 

It's nice to have a timely reminder that there are a variety of photo outlets out there, and that it's best not to get too attached to any one of them.

Also, I hadn't heard from Pond 5 in a while, so good to see that it's still alive and kicking.  ;)

« Last Edit: April 17, 2021, 22:26 by marthamarks »

« Reply #89 on: April 18, 2021, 00:23 »
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LETs SHOCK them all by leaving that unfair agencies!
'
Like everyone 'shocked' Shutterstock? Yeah, I bet they're still reeling from the less than 1% of their content that was removed (and replaced within a week) and the almost trebling of their share price.

But we do have a choice of what software to use. Premiere or Da Vinci? Photoshop, Illustrator or Affinity?

For Lightroom Luminar is a good alternative IF it runs smoothly on your computer. Sadly a lot of people are reporting technical problems with it. It was slow and used to crash quite often for me too when I used my older computer, but since it was overdo to be replaced and I have a new one, Luminar is now running smoothly. There is a free trial available, so to everyone looking into ditching Adobe products I recommend trying it out.

oky

« Reply #90 on: April 18, 2021, 02:26 »
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The microstock will shrink and shrink into atomstock

« Reply #91 on: April 18, 2021, 03:31 »
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Lina, I am sorry to ear your case. Probably you need to be in the same "page" as them.

Anyway just let you know that you can import psd files into Affinity and also convert to be open in photoshop.
There are tutorials around internet and youtube that can help you with that.

Oh! One other thing... Affinity is now 27,99/lifetime but you can try it for free too.
Maybe you can see if this can work for you.

Thank you for trying to help! :) I have Affinity Photo and Designer. Great software, only bad thing is that Affinity Photo doesn't support smart objects, at least it didn't last time I checked.

I am working mostly in InDesign. As far as I know, Affinity Publisher is still not on same level as InDesign and I am afraid to even think of all issues that could happen in conversion. And yes, I have to be on same page with my client so I can't work in other software and make conversions all the time.

It's OK, at least Adobe graciously allowed us to buy web subscription from beginning of this year, until now in my country we had only option to buy "For Teams" version which is expensive as hell (around 550$ for single app/year).
« Last Edit: April 18, 2021, 03:47 by Lina »

« Reply #92 on: April 19, 2021, 04:43 »
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The microstock will shrink and shrink into atomstock

Within a few years we're all gonna need CERN's particle accelerator to find out about our earnings.

Agencies claim they are there, yet still to be discovered by the contributors.

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #93 on: April 19, 2021, 08:54 »
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Has anyone actually seen a sale or payment or is this all pages of guesses and knee jerk reactions? No I don't expect I'll be "excited" and happy when I do, but people closing accounts, removing images and we haven't seen one bit of how much we actually will or won't get?

To alter slightly: "Microstock is no longer a viable professional option for 98% of contributors." And hasn't been for some years. Why is this a surprise?

Many people are changing to Affinity.

And liking it. I have my free CC photo subscription and I might not activate it.

So let me join the doom and gloom, hand wringing and misery. Adobe will buy Affinity Software and shut it down, as that will make them much more than it costs.  ;D

1) Please wait for the first payments, then react, based on what actually happens?
2) For people who are already removing their best images, don't come back and tell us how your income and sales have dropped. You did that yourself.
3) Agencies are not our friends, (not partners, not associates, not a charity) they are a business for their own profit.

I used to nod and agree when people called this Micropayment Stock. Then things got worse and worse, and now we are supplying NanoPayment NanoStock, which is 1 Billionth of a whole. iStock has a claim 2 cent minimum, but somehow blows smoke...  as the Connect sales are thousandths of a cent in some cases. SS has a 10 minimum which seems to be almost every sale. Video? I don't know I removed all mine years ago.

What did anyone expect? As the dominoes fall, one by one, tumbling the next one, the next agency to fall, did anyone actually think Abode would be a brick in the path and stop the progressive diminishing of payments that's everywhere? Oh yeah, the usual "this won't happen to me, it only happens to other people."

Microstock Is Dead, stop looking for the next big thing or some comeback or something new and improved that gives us more money. It's over, time to move on and find something else.


wds

« Reply #94 on: April 19, 2021, 09:17 »
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All valid points above, however there will be a point where major categories of saleable stock will become unavailable in the microstock world as payments approach "0". Have a look at the sites that are now literally not paying contributors anything. Yes, people still upload to these sites, but the content is pretty much devoid of major categories of stock...for example business people and scenarios.

« Reply #95 on: April 19, 2021, 09:34 »
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Has anyone actually seen a sale or payment

Who knows? As those sales cannot be distinguished from other "custom" sales (those have been there a long time already...), we just can't tell...

At least I haven't (yet) seen anything suspiciously low.
I can't imagine that this will have any positive impact.
How big the negative impact will be? Time will tell.

I'll do the same as I did with Shutterstock: Wait and see what happens and decide when I see results.
With Shutterstock it was bad enough that I deactivated everything after roughly six weeks.

Let's see how this one goes...
If I see massive amounts of tiny sales coming in (and have to assume an EL being granted for those), the likely outcome is I'll be gone from Adobe as well.

« Reply #96 on: April 19, 2021, 09:36 »
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Reading through, "33% royalties on the Adobe Stock revenue from Pro Edition downloads" is a much better deal than SS's pathetic percentage on used downloads (so an absolute BS percentage they can change whenever they like by changing download limits on packages) and IS's awful partner sales for pennies.

But, I'd like to see a minimum per dl, which would also motivate AS to police abuse of accounts to download huge amounts of content. AS/ FL is historically not good at that kind of thing (e.g. copyright infringement of artists work on the site) so I would have to see a structural reason for them to care rather than taking it on trust that they will.

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #97 on: April 19, 2021, 09:39 »
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All valid points above, however there will be a point where major categories of saleable stock will become unavailable in the microstock world as payments approach "0". Have a look at the sites that are now literally not paying contributors anything. Yes, people still upload to these sites, but the content is pretty much devoid of major categories of stock...for example business people and scenarios.

True, and maybe there is some hope that products that involve production, models, locations and professional qualities, will disappear from Microstock, except old stale uploads? Or people who actually have good, well thought out, unique images, will find a way to market elsewhere and Microstock will just be like the clearance section at Walmart.

Here's my official personal position about this change, just in case it's lost in the rest I wrote.

I'm in wait and see mode, look before you leap? I'll change nothing until I see an actual reason to change.

This is in opposition to "Lets hang them now and maybe next month have a fair trial to decide if it's as bad we suspected."

angelawaye

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« Reply #98 on: April 19, 2021, 09:46 »
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Don't these agencies realize the quality of stock photography will diminish greatly if photographers are only earning 10 cents an image which includes enhanced/extended licensing? Even the "new/pumped up generation" would probably not stay long at that royalty ...

Also, inflation is coming. They are reducing our pay while the cost of everything is going up.

wds

« Reply #99 on: April 19, 2021, 10:18 »
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Don't these agencies realize the quality of stock photography will diminish greatly if photographers are only earning 10 cents an image which includes enhanced/extended licensing? Even the "new/pumped up generation" would probably not stay long at that royalty ...

Also, inflation is coming. They are reducing our pay while the cost of everything is going up.

Seems many publicly owned businesses are short term focused these days....don't necessarily care about the long haul. The execs will be doing something else by then.


 

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