Author Topic: Adobe Stock Sales are so slow this days (Read 15253 times)

For Real · « **Reply #50 on:** November 24, 2021, 20:40 »

Quote from: Wilm on November 24, 2021, 16:52

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on November 24, 2021, 04:53
On course for BME on Adobestock, but then again I stopped giving SS any new work (SS work at least a year older than on AS). in the 2-3000 dls/month on AS range

Excuse me, but I didn't understand your statement at all. Maybe it's because English is not my native language, but even with translation software I didn't understand it.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it will be your best month at AS, but the rest is unclear to me.

I think he stated his is having a best month ever with Adobe due to his continuation of submitting images to them where he no longer submits images to SS. He's not surprised by this stat as well since he works harder with Adobe.

Pacesetter · « **Reply #51 on:** November 25, 2021, 00:38 »

Quote from: For Real on November 24, 2021, 12:51

Quote from: Pacesetter on November 24, 2021, 03:52
Free things for all

Come on! That's worth at least a $.10

Thought it might of been worth $0.33

Wilm · « **Reply #52 on:** November 25, 2021, 02:36 »

Quote from: For Real on November 24, 2021, 20:40

Quote from: Wilm on November 24, 2021, 16:52
Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on November 24, 2021, 04:53
On course for BME on Adobestock, but then again I stopped giving SS any new work (SS work at least a year older than on AS). in the 2-3000 dls/month on AS range
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Excuse me, but I didn't understand your statement at all. Maybe it's because English is not my native language, but even with translation software I didn't understand it.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it will be your best month at AS, but the rest is unclear to me.

I think he stated his is having a best month ever with Adobe due to his continuation of submitting images to them where he no longer submits images to SS. He's not surprised by this stat as well since he works harder with Adobe.

Thank you for the explanation.

2-3000 Dls/month only with AS is really impressive. Even though I don't know how big Justanotherfotographer's portfolio is. But it must be good.

Microstockphoto · « **Reply #53 on:** November 25, 2021, 03:41 »

sales are dropping, no shiiiiit sherlock, you are all selling your images for 5 dollar and now adobe takes all sales, how could not have seen this coming???

thijsdegraaf · « **Reply #54 on:** November 25, 2021, 04:44 »

Quote from: Microstockphoto on November 25, 2021, 03:41

sales are dropping, no shiiiiit sherlock, you are all selling your images for 5 dollar and now adobe takes all sales, how could not have seen this coming???

On average, my sales in a year with Adobe are not $5. If they had accepted all the suggested photos for 5 dollars I would have made more profit than otherwise
I didn't participate because I think it's going the wrong way when so much is given away for free to customers. It seems to me that with such a large offer, a customer will first look at the free photos and only if there is nothing there that he likes, at the other photos. As a result, fewer of them will be sold.
A store also tries to lure customers with bargains (not for free) in the hope that they will buy more and stay customers. That will also be the intention here, but I wonder if you can compare this with a store.

Pacesetter · « **Reply #55 on:** November 25, 2021, 07:18 »

Never participated in the program either, despite during a time when I needed more money while moving home. I think it's fine agencies offer a few freebies here and there, they all do anyway. But this went way over the top. But maybe, just maybe, sales will return once the freebie giveaway comes to an end, or new customers start buying.

For Real · « **Reply #56 on:** November 25, 2021, 10:25 »

"2-3000 Dls/month only with AS is really impressive. Even though I don't know how big Justanotherfotographer's portfolio is. But it must be good."

I know some that has 6,000 DLs for $8,000 this year thus 2,000 to 3,000 DLs per month should bring in $32,000 to $48,000 per year! So, yes their portfolio is very good

Lowls · « **Reply #57 on:** November 26, 2021, 14:03 »

Adobe has become a ghost ship. Tripled portfolio size on last year and the sales have dropped off a cliff for several weeks. I've had 2 sales in the last month despite being on page 1 of quite a few images. Ive seen my portfolio shuffling about with images rising to the top and sitting there but nothing gets bought. Then they drift down again. I know what that looks like to me.

Dumc · « **Reply #58 on:** November 26, 2021, 15:38 »

With two sales in the last month I'm guessing you tripled your portoflio from 10 to 30 images?

Level6 · « **Reply #59 on:** November 26, 2021, 17:11 »

I am not able to start a new thread as my account is new, I am an editorial video producer so no on Adobe or doing photos but every agency seems to be in the race to the bottom, the race to give YOUR work away for free or nearly free or maybe even for "incremental income" or at a huge discount to customers who "normally don't buy stock" in the hopes of conversions (startup speak).

Ya'll are delusional if you think you can still make a living at this or even keep it going as a paying hobby.

Compared the stock agencies to the market-makers in the stock market, if you day or swing trade ya'll know about algorithms, market makers and things that work against the little guy but make the rich very rich.

I get it that the agencies need to make money, most are startups so they have investors or shareholders plus massive overhead, that's business but why all the deals, partner programs, free stuff and more programs to "make you more....incremental income"?.

This industry has become a SCAM, you are being ripped off and there isn't much you can do about it, nothing I can do about it either as I head toward bankruptcy myself. Why? because you can't compete with free.

What you can do is be VERY selective on which agency you sell through and opt out of all these programs and free stuff but even then, they hold your content on their servers with zero transparency, it's going out the back door by the truckload to "trusted global partners" while you struggle to sell your videos and photos legally in the storefront.

What I am going is learning day and swing trading, it's a long learning curve but when 14-20 year olds are making $3000 to $20,000 a day you'll want to learn, start by following some of them on twitter and learn the language and then learn to trade carefully.

A starting point would be @pbinvesting, @mm_flooded, @mini_tradez, @stxrboy999 these four are 18 and under and make more in a day than any of us will make in stock, there's many more and they also host these Twitter spaces and you can listen in and just start to learn the language.

I plan to keep stock as a hobby, at least I think I do but it's time to tell the agencies to take it and shove it in a dark place.

Sales aren't slow these days, they are slow for US, the agencies are all in business so product is selling, COVID is far from over, travel is expensive and there are rules in every country so stock is being used more and more vs in-person crews, if anything, COVID times should have been boom times for us.

More specifically abut the "free collection", WHY?, oh, it's for customers who don't normally buy stock?, really?, Can't think of any other business that gives their product away for free to customers who don't normally buy from them but I do need a new phone so if Apple or Samsung are reading this maybe give me a free phone so I will become a paying customer in the future?.

Inflation?, it's going to the moon, this industry?, prices dropping and free free free.

We gettin scammed real good here.

cascoly · « **Reply #60 on:** November 26, 2021, 17:35 »

Quote from: thijsdegraaf on November 25, 2021, 04:44

Quote from: Microstockphoto on November 25, 2021, 03:41
sales are dropping, no shiiiiit sherlock, you are all selling your images for 5 dollar and now adobe takes all sales, how could not have seen this coming???

On average, my sales in a year with Adobe are not $5. If they had accepted all the suggested photos for 5 dollars I would have made more profit than otherwise
I didn't participate because I think it's going the wrong way when so much is given away for free to customers. It seems to me that with such a large offer, a customer will first look at the free photos and only if there is nothing there that he likes, at the other photos. As a result, fewer of them will be sold.
A store also tries to lure customers with bargains (not for free) in the hope that they will buy more and stay customers. That will also be the intention here, but I wonder if you can compare this with a store.

i participated in the $5 event - with NO effect on my other sales - AS earning have been stable over the last 3 years

marthamarks · « **Reply #61 on:** November 26, 2021, 21:39 »

Quote from: Level6 on November 26, 2021, 17:11

I am not able to start a new thread as my account is new, I am an editorial video producer so no on Adobe or doing photos but every agency seems to be in the race to the bottom, the race to give YOUR work away for free or nearly free or maybe even for "incremental income" or at a huge discount to customers who "normally don't buy stock" in the hopes of conversions (startup speak).

Ya'll are delusional if you think you can still make a living at this or even keep it going as a paying hobby.

Compared the stock agencies to the market-makers in the stock market, if you day or swing trade ya'll know about algorithms, market makers and things that work against the little guy but make the rich very rich.

I get it that the agencies need to make money, most are startups so they have investors or shareholders plus massive overhead, that's business but why all the deals, partner programs, free stuff and more programs to "make you more....incremental income"?.

This industry has become a SCAM, you are being ripped off and there isn't much you can do about it, nothing I can do about it either as I head toward bankruptcy myself. Why? because you can't compete with free.

What you can do is be VERY selective on which agency you sell through and opt out of all these programs and free stuff but even then, they hold your content on their servers with zero transparency, it's going out the back door by the truckload to "trusted global partners" while you struggle to sell your videos and photos legally in the storefront.

What I am going is learning day and swing trading, it's a long learning curve but when 14-20 year olds are making $3000 to $20,000 a day you'll want to learn, start by following some of them on twitter and learn the language and then learn to trade carefully.

A starting point would be @pbinvesting, @mm_flooded, @mini_tradez, @stxrboy999 these four are 18 and under and make more in a day than any of us will make in stock, there's many more and they also host these Twitter spaces and you can listen in and just start to learn the language.

I plan to keep stock as a hobby, at least I think I do but it's time to tell the agencies to take it and shove it in a dark place.

Sales aren't slow these days, they are slow for US, the agencies are all in business so product is selling, COVID is far from over, travel is expensive and there are rules in every country so stock is being used more and more vs in-person crews, if anything, COVID times should have been boom times for us.

More specifically abut the "free collection", WHY?, oh, it's for customers who don't normally buy stock?, really?, Can't think of any other business that gives their product away for free to customers who don't normally buy from them but I do need a new phone so if Apple or Samsung are reading this maybe give me a free phone so I will become a paying customer in the future?.

Inflation?, it's going to the moon, this industry?, prices dropping and free free free.

We gettin scammed real good here.

So, as I understand what you're saying…

You just joined this forum today, just posting your 2nd comment on somebody else's thread because you're not qualified yet to start your own.

You say we're all going to hell in a handbasket and the solution is — WAIT FOR IT!!! — to follow you down a rathole of "learning day and swing trading", just as you say you are. "A starting point would be @pbinvesting, @mm_flooded, @mini_tradez, @stxrboy999 these four are 18 and under and make more in a day than any of us will make in stock, there's many more and they also host these Twitter spaces and you can listen in and just start to learn the language."

And then you end with this: "We gettin scammed real good here."

Methinks (suspects) that you may be the self-same scammer you're warning us about.

What say you about that???

marthamarks · « **Reply #62 on:** November 26, 2021, 21:41 »

Quote from: cascoly on November 26, 2021, 17:35

i participated in the $5 event - with NO effect on my other sales - AS earning have been stable over the last 3 years

Same here.

YadaYadaYada · « **Reply #63 on:** November 26, 2021, 22:23 »

Quote from: cascoly on November 26, 2021, 17:35

Quote from: thijsdegraaf on November 25, 2021, 04:44
Quote from: Microstockphoto on November 25, 2021, 03:41
sales are dropping, no shiiiiit sherlock, you are all selling your images for 5 dollar and now adobe takes all sales, how could not have seen this coming???

On average, my sales in a year with Adobe are not $5. If they had accepted all the suggested photos for 5 dollars I would have made more profit than otherwise
I didn't participate because I think it's going the wrong way when so much is given away for free to customers. It seems to me that with such a large offer, a customer will first look at the free photos and only if there is nothing there that he likes, at the other photos. As a result, fewer of them will be sold.
A store also tries to lure customers with bargains (not for free) in the hope that they will buy more and stay customers. That will also be the intention here, but I wonder if you can compare this with a store.

i participated in the $5 event - with NO effect on my other sales - AS earning have been stable over the last 3 years

Same for me no loss change, sales are more and up.

Findura · « **Reply #64 on:** November 28, 2021, 12:09 »

I am very happy with my sales on Adobe Stock.
This month is the best of all.
Likewise with Shutterstock, I'm having my best month ever there too.
I'm uploading new media almost every day.

flywing · « **Reply #65 on:** November 29, 2021, 05:58 »

Last year, it was SS that gave me the highest income. However, since the introduction of the free collection, AS has mostly (9 out of 12 months, and it's 4 months straight now) been my biggest source of microstock income. I've not participated in the free collection. But it may attract enough new visitors to make it more popular enough to cause the difference. This month is an OK, certainly far better than SS.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #66 on:** November 29, 2021, 15:41 »

Quote from: Lowls on November 26, 2021, 14:03

Adobe has become a ghost ship. Tripled portfolio size on last year and the sales have dropped off a cliff for several weeks. I've had 2 sales in the last month despite being on page 1 of quite a few images. Ive seen my portfolio shuffling about with images rising to the top and sitting there but nothing gets bought. Then they drift down again. I know what that looks like to me.

Interesting, so you are personal proof that being on page one, doesn't really mean automatic downloads and more money? I always thought page one was a prize.

You have personally seen your images get a boost, as new or just some other reason, and then go down into the average area? Does AS have a new image boost? I never took the time to do research and make notes for verification.

HalfFull · « **Reply #67 on:** November 30, 2021, 08:26 »

Quote from: cascoly on November 26, 2021, 17:35

Quote from: thijsdegraaf on November 25, 2021, 04:44
Quote from: Microstockphoto on November 25, 2021, 03:41
sales are dropping, no shiiiiit sherlock, you are all selling your images for 5 dollar and now adobe takes all sales, how could not have seen this coming???

On average, my sales in a year with Adobe are not $5. If they had accepted all the suggested photos for 5 dollars I would have made more profit than otherwise
I didn't participate because I think it's going the wrong way when so much is given away for free to customers. It seems to me that with such a large offer, a customer will first look at the free photos and only if there is nothing there that he likes, at the other photos. As a result, fewer of them will be sold.
A store also tries to lure customers with bargains (not for free) in the hope that they will buy more and stay customers. That will also be the intention here, but I wonder if you can compare this with a store.

i participated in the $5 event - with NO effect on my other sales - AS earning have been stable over the last 3 years

Exactly... if anything, they went up a bit.

The problem with some of the percentages being quoted in terms of increase/decreasess in sales / earnings is knowing what is a normal sales month. If you sell 100 a month, it's very easy to see big swings one way or the other.... 500 a month is better but even at 1500 I see spikes and look back to the same month over previous years to get a feel as to the average. Swings and round-a-bouts. One month down and another goes up. Best to focus on producing the best content you can.

Diana Herrmann · « **Reply #68 on:** November 30, 2021, 09:17 »

Quote from: Uncle Pete on November 29, 2021, 15:41

Quote from: Lowls on November 26, 2021, 14:03
Adobe has become a ghost ship. Tripled portfolio size on last year and the sales have dropped off a cliff for several weeks. I've had 2 sales in the last month despite being on page 1 of quite a few images. Ive seen my portfolio shuffling about with images rising to the top and sitting there but nothing gets bought. Then they drift down again. I know what that looks like to me.

Interesting, so you are personal proof that being on page one, doesn't really mean automatic downloads and more money? I always thought page one was a prize.

You have personally seen your images get a boost, as new or just some other reason, and then go down into the average area? Does AS have a new image boost? I never took the time to do research and make notes for verification.

Images on Adobestock have a 30 day ranking time and then are set by then.

cascoly · « **Reply #69 on:** November 30, 2021, 12:53 »

Quote from: HalfFull on November 30, 2021, 08:26

The problem with some of the percentages being quoted in terms of increase/decreasess in sales / earnings is knowing what is a normal sales month. If you sell 100 a month, it's very easy to see big swings one way or the other.... 500 a month is better but even at 1500 I see spikes and look back to the same month over previous years to get a feel as to the average. Swings and round-a-bouts. One month down and another goes up. Best to focus on producing the best content you can.

right! and many of the reports of no/fewer sales are from those with dozens, not hundreds of sales.

i use a 4 mo running avg which smooths the month-month variations, but still not a smooth curve.

yet another problem with yr to yr comparisons is it doesnt account for the world changing - recessions, covid, etc

Pacesetter · « **Reply #70 on:** December 08, 2021, 20:59 »

Finally got a larger sale of $22.40 after a little over 3 months of average $0.33 to $1.50 sales.

ETA a second $22.40 sale has just come in minutes after the last. WTH?!

Keep going Adobe Stock, don't stop now!

I want more.

MORE!

MOAR!!!!!!

Level6 · « **Reply #71 on:** December 08, 2021, 22:57 »

Quote from: Pacesetter on December 08, 2021, 20:59

Finally got a larger sale of $22.40 after a little over 3 months of average $0.33 to $1.50 sales.

ETA a second $22.40 sale has just come in minutes after the last. WTH?!

Keep going Adobe Stock, don't stop now!

I want more.

Probably the same customer for same type of license for both. I had that happen on Newsflare.com back in August, FOUR fireball red sunset shots sold, all in about 25 minutes, I made about $780 that evening and it was the same customer, sales on Newsflare are about as rare as Pond5 but it was one nice evening that's for sure!.

It also reminded me to upload every frame of video, never know, it might sell or might not but it 100% won't sell if it's on your drive at home.

MORE!

MOAR!!!!!!

Souf10 · « **Reply #72 on:** January 17, 2022, 15:51 »

I think there is a relationship between periodically uploading content and between sales
Is this true for you ?

cascoly · « **Reply #73 on:** January 18, 2022, 14:00 »

Quote from: Souf10 on January 17, 2022, 15:51

I think there is a relationship between periodically uploading content and between sales
Is this true for you ?

nope - no noticeable difference on any agency - i've gone for 1-3 months w/o uploads and no change. it would be a big hassle to track every potential image on a search wrt to last upload. and why would an agency bother when they dont really care what a particular artist is doing?

Camillo · « **Reply #74 on:** January 18, 2022, 18:00 »

Quote from: Uncle Pete on November 29, 2021, 15:41

Quote from: Lowls on November 26, 2021, 14:03
Adobe has become a ghost ship. Tripled portfolio size on last year and the sales have dropped off a cliff for several weeks. I've had 2 sales in the last month despite being on page 1 of quite a few images. Ive seen my portfolio shuffling about with images rising to the top and sitting there but nothing gets bought. Then they drift down again. I know what that looks like to me.

Interesting, so you are personal proof that being on page one, doesn't really mean automatic downloads and more money? I always thought page one was a prize.

You have personally seen your images get a boost, as new or just some other reason, and then go down into the average area? Does AS have a new image boost? I never took the time to do research and make notes for verification.

Adobe is slow to adapt and learn. Its like a giant corporation that gets it until its late in the game. They're problem is the same problem they have with adobe CC, its called regionalization. Every image and customer is regional. For instance If youre in Central America, some countries there cant buy any adobe stock images, you just cant subscribe to them or the CC cloud for adobe software. So theres a lot of customers that can't buy stuff from all over the world. All they do is search for references and either shoot the images or get them from somewhere else.

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