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« on: October 06, 2021, 11:31 »
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Hi
My Adobe Stock Sales are so slow this 2 weeks ..
just me ?


« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2021, 12:09 »
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normal

« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2021, 13:10 »
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Hi
My Adobe Stock Sales are so slow this 2 weeks ..
just me ?

Yeah man, I only sold one image in one month! This free convention seams to have backfired...

« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2021, 13:59 »
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Yeah man, I only sold one image in one month! This free convention seams to have backfired...

I'm no fan of the Free section (which started out at 70,000 a year ago and is now over 878,000), but I have not noticed it eating into my sales.

Not sure what type of media you license - mine is almost all photos - but that might make a difference. People from some countries have seen big drops after Adobe started handling "regions" differently and excluding large chunks of the collection - there's a thread about that here if you want to read the details).

Looking at my September 2021 compared to Sept 2020, Adobe stock sales were up 37%; even if you compare 2021 to 2019 (i.e. pre-pandemic), my sales were up 32%. My portfolio hasn't grown much (i.e. this isn't about a vast increase in size).

Long term, I think the free section is a very bad thing for contributors, especially of photos. Short term, I'm doing OK.

« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2021, 14:11 »
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September way my third best month this year, first 6 days of October so far comparable to first 6 days for September, I don't see any reduction in sales so far.

« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2021, 14:50 »
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I havent sold a single pic for 8 days now.
That is very very unusual - I usually sell like 10 or 15 pics in 8 days....


« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2021, 16:25 »
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Very nice to re-check.  :-*

While I'm not seeing anything of parcicular concern on my end, I am interested in le
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-Mat Hayward

« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2021, 21:47 »
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Fairly big crash and burn on AS for me here - earnings are down to about a 2 year low and its been sudden.

Thats with about 16k photos and 2k video.  Thats with new content every 2 weeks or so on average (1500 or so new assets this year)
« Last Edit: October 06, 2021, 21:49 by gnirtS »

« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2021, 04:29 »
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same here, but same on other agencies as well

I have about 9k images and 1k videos

« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2021, 04:34 »
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Adobe is actually - FINALLY - doing well for me again.

Adobe sales have been on a decline or stagnating for me for months - in opposite to other agencies where sales rose the more images I added to my port. But starting maybe 3 weeks ago they finally got better again. But I must say that as Halloween season approches, my sales improve on all agencies as I have many photos suitable for Halloween in my ports, so maybe my Adobe sales are just part of that.

« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2021, 06:21 »
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For me too

I went from 400/500 $ month to 250/300 $ month (4.000 images) after the publication of the free collection that I didn't join.

There are very few extended license sales and the average per photo is too low ... (rpd from 1,17$ to 0,94$ - 2020 -> 2021).

Shutterstock sells for 10 cents ... but sells far more licenses over $ 50.

« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2021, 06:22 »
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August was my BME in over two years of being on the platform. September was slower than average and October has started very slow.

« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2021, 07:23 »
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For me too

I went from 400/500 $ month to 250/300 $ month (4.000 images) after the publication of the free collection that I didn't join.

There are very few extended license sales and the average per photo is too low ... (rpd from 1,17$ to 0,94$ - 2020 -> 2021).

Shutterstock sells for 10 cents ... but sells far more licenses over $ 50.

yes, also didn't join to free collection, I knew it will devastate regular sales.

I reply just because of your last part... I never get high custom licences at AS that I get on SS. 90-110+ USD, sometimes even more then 125USD for single image sale.

Got some extended licences on AS but far too few.

I think they should concentrate effort on providing individual custom licence deals with their buyers that are good both from buyers and contributors, because obviously there are buyers that don't care much about price if image is right.




« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2021, 08:44 »
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Yeah, I miss those higher earning licenses on Adobe too. Apart from occasional EL's I only had two bigger sales in 7 years. One for 94 and one for, I think it was 40 or 50. The rest are less than 10, and those are also rare.

« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2021, 15:05 »
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My Adobe Stock Sales are so slow this 2 weeks ..
just me ?
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Yeah man, I only sold one image in one month! This free convention seams to have backfired...
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My sales are also slow on Adobe, Shutterstock and Wirestock
It's probably a seasonal thing.

« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2021, 10:55 »
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While I'm not seeing anything of parcicular concern on my end, I am interested in learning more about your experience. Would those of you that are reporting a decline in sales be willing to share some additional information? Ideally, a link to your portfolio. If you prefer anonymity, that's OK too. I would like to know the following:

  • How many files are in your portfolio?
  • Primary asset type (photo, video, vector?
  • Date of your most recently (approved) submission?
  • Number of files you have uploaded in 2021 so far
  • Total number of downloads in September, 2020, compared with total number of downloads in September, 2021
  • Subject you specialize in? Food, Lifestyle, Landscapes, et?

Thanks in advance for the information!

-Mat Hayward

Well, year 2021 on AdobeStock is just...weird. I doubled my portfolio (which is mostly Aerials, Lifestyle and Food footage) and yet, my earnings has dropped significantly. Till now, I have earned half of what I've earned last year, with significantly smaller portfolio! (then: 800 videos, now: more than 1500).
And to avoid "maybe your portfolio is bad" I will just mention, that on SS with doubling my portfolio I've doubled my earnings already, and there are still 2 months, to make some money...


« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2021, 22:58 »
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yes, big slowdown for me.  Sept- October is usually one of my best periods too so depressing.  None of my best photos are in the free section but they are not selling on AS but are elsewhere.   Overall I do think free section is hurting sales.  AS used to be one of my best venues but since the free stuff is there, it is sliding to almost worst in terms of sales.  Shocking. Big portfolio and upload continually.

« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2021, 23:11 »
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I'll offer an addendum to my earlier post - about the value of "custom" sales over time. Not all that surprisingly, the royalty amounts are dropping compared to 2020 and 2019 even though the volume of custom sales is rising.

It's not easy to look at details because Adobe Stock has very few stats tools for contributors, but I did a little checking on my royalties and saw that the double-digit custom sales have disappeared in 2021 (in 2019 I had a couple of $60+ royalties on custom sales) and the $9.x or $8.x custom royalties are largely a thing of the past too.

Custom sales volume was up about 60% in 2020 over 2019 and 50% in 2021 (so far) over all of 2020. However the royalties that were $4 and up in 2019, $2 and up in 2020, are $1.80 and below in 2021 (seeing lots more recently in the $1.5x range).

I realize that there's price pressure because of competition, various free collections (including Adobe's own), a weak economy because of the pandemic and a huge supply of content. But when you look at a bundle of 20 custom royalties in 2019 that netted me $95 and compare that with a 2020 bundle of 20 that netted me $36, it makes it really clear how much royalty erosion there has been in just a couple of years.

« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2021, 00:32 »
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I'll offer an addendum to my earlier post - about the value of "custom" sales over time. Not all that surprisingly, the royalty amounts are dropping compared to 2020 and 2019 even though the volume of custom sales is rising.

It's not easy to look at details because Adobe Stock has very few stats tools for contributors, but I did a little checking on my royalties and saw that the double-digit custom sales have disappeared in 2021 (in 2019 I had a couple of $60+ royalties on custom sales) and the $9.x or $8.x custom royalties are largely a thing of the past too.

Custom sales volume was up about 60% in 2020 over 2019 and 50% in 2021 (so far) over all of 2020. However the royalties that were $4 and up in 2019, $2 and up in 2020, are $1.80 and below in 2021 (seeing lots more recently in the $1.5x range).

I realize that there's price pressure because of competition, various free collections (including Adobe's own), a weak economy because of the pandemic and a huge supply of content. But when you look at a bundle of 20 custom royalties in 2019 that netted me $95 and compare that with a 2020 bundle of 20 that netted me $36, it makes it really clear how much royalty erosion there has been in just a couple of years.

Excellent analysis as usual, Jo Ann. Thanks for taking the time to think it through and spell everything out so clearly.

With my custom sales on AS, I'm seeing the same things you describe. Still a high proportion of such sales compared to the basic subs, but they don't bring in what they did before.

This is no surprise, given everything you mention that's driving prices down. It's a reality we can't deny, and it's not only because AS has a big new free section. Lots of other factors are in play here now.

SpaceStockFootage

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« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2021, 04:05 »
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Interesting. For video, my custom sales are usually priced at less than the regular ones. Not always, but more often than not.

« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2021, 10:26 »
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I was doing quite well. Better than expected given port size but in september it began slowing down. To a stop. I have a very small port but the payout's are better, when they come. But since during august I had sporadic sales. Last sale September 6th and again yesterday.

« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2021, 10:12 »
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For weeks complete dead

Because i am busy with other things, i have uploaded little

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2021, 11:07 »
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I'll offer an addendum to my earlier post - about the value of "custom" sales over time. Not all that surprisingly, the royalty amounts are dropping compared to 2020 and 2019 even though the volume of custom sales is rising.

It's not easy to look at details because Adobe Stock has very few stats tools for contributors, but I did a little checking on my royalties and saw that the double-digit custom sales have disappeared in 2021 (in 2019 I had a couple of $60+ royalties on custom sales) and the $9.x or $8.x custom royalties are largely a thing of the past too.

Custom sales volume was up about 60% in 2020 over 2019 and 50% in 2021 (so far) over all of 2020. However the royalties that were $4 and up in 2019, $2 and up in 2020, are $1.80 and below in 2021 (seeing lots more recently in the $1.5x range).

I realize that there's price pressure because of competition, various free collections (including Adobe's own), a weak economy because of the pandemic and a huge supply of content. But when you look at a bundle of 20 custom royalties in 2019 that netted me $95 and compare that with a 2020 bundle of 20 that netted me $36, it makes it really clear how much royalty erosion there has been in just a couple of years.

Yes, and we get paid a percentage of the sold price, not some made up magic number. Good point, they must be selling licenses for less. Not easy to look at stats is way understated.  ;) I don't track volume, so I wouldn't see anything if it did happen.

Proof of nothing department, because we're all different, but for some others. One of my free images on Adobe, sold twice on another site, this month. Odd because it was one of those, "hasn't made a dollar in over two years" examples.

And for sales up or down, which for me has nothing to do with some irrelevant free images, Oct-Nov, I have the most sales since any time or year in the past on Adobe. The note is, they are mostly Holiday Images. I'm glad I took the time to add more of those over the last two years.


« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2021, 11:39 »
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First 15 days of this month by far the best this year. If it keeps up with this pace it might be best month.

« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2021, 11:59 »
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No to much so far but it was selling, images only on my side.

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« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2021, 12:06 »
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Unfortunately, Adobe are at risk of being awarded the coveted Turd of the Month Award (November 2021) for me...

« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2021, 12:34 »
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This month is currently performing at just 6.5% of my average monthly sales at Adobe (average over past 1.5 years) and we're half way through the month.

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2021, 09:30 »
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First 15 days of this month by far the best this year. If it keeps up with this pace it might be best month.

Same for me. Interesting how just between the people on the forum, we get such a difference.

Unfortunately, Adobe are at risk of being awarded the coveted Turd of the Month Award (November 2021) for me...

For example.  ;D

« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2021, 09:57 »
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Unfortunately, Adobe are at risk of being awarded the coveted Turd of the Month Award (November 2021) for me...

Your style of images don't bode well for Adobe like they do on the more artistic companies. 

SpaceStockFootage

  • Space, Sci-Fi and Astronomy Related Stock Footage

« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2021, 05:24 »
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On target to make about half of what I did last month.

« Reply #31 on: November 18, 2021, 05:29 »
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For weeks complete dead

Because i am busy with other things, i have uploaded little
Last days, a couple of nice sales :)
Last weekend i had time to upload.

So i think it is import to upload frequently

« Reply #32 on: November 18, 2021, 08:44 »
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Yes, Same Situation on my side too.
Sales are Low, I frequently Upload the vectors and illustration.

May be one of the Worst Month or May be one of Best Month (If my huge stock got selected in Free Collection).
LOL

« Reply #33 on: November 19, 2021, 10:45 »
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Sales on Adobe have just about stopped for me.  Looks like less than a third of normal.

« Reply #34 on: November 22, 2021, 11:31 »
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Adobe stock has given me zero sales for about a month now. Shutter is doing better than it was before, but Adobe has taken a huge plunge ever since this free stuff and regional sales started.

« Reply #35 on: November 22, 2021, 12:00 »
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Adobe stock has given me zero sales for about a month now. Shutter is doing better than it was before, but Adobe has taken a huge plunge ever since this free stuff and regional sales started.

Two weeks of nothing, then a week of four sales (0.66, 0.40, 033, 0.33). At least better than nothing, but it's not much.  :-[

« Reply #36 on: November 22, 2021, 12:19 »
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Adobe stock has given me zero sales for about a month now. Shutter is doing better than it was before, but Adobe has taken a huge plunge ever since this free stuff and regional sales started.

Two weeks of nothing, then a week of four sales (0.66, 0.40, 033, 0.33). At least better than nothing, but it's not much.  :-[

Yeah agree its something hehe good thing is I got around 500 plus pics and footage I've manage to do that have to key word and upload but am not done editing some videos but am almost there...

« Reply #37 on: November 22, 2021, 13:57 »
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Hmmmmm... receiving $5 dollars for giving your work away for free to promote a multi billion dollar corporation... What could possibly go wrong?

Seriously folks... those who participated in this con get what you deserve, and the rest of us pay the price. I look at the free collection and it's a no brainer why sales are down. Why would anyone pay for content that is free?








« Reply #38 on: November 22, 2021, 14:30 »
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Hmmmmm... receiving $5 dollars for giving your work away for free to promote a multi billion dollar corporation... What could possibly go wrong?

Seriously folks... those who participated in this con get what you deserve, and the rest of us pay the price. I look at the free collection and it's a no brainer why sales are down. Why would anyone pay for content that is free?

Indeed, I have thought of joining. I might have earned more from it than I do now. But it didn't feel right. All those free photos aren't doing the market any good, even if you get paid for them.

« Reply #39 on: November 22, 2021, 15:33 »
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Adobe Stock Sales are so slow this days that even my grass grows faster in my yard  8)

« Reply #40 on: November 24, 2021, 03:52 »
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Free things for all

« Reply #41 on: November 24, 2021, 04:53 »
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On course for BME on Adobestock, but then again I stopped giving SS any new work (SS work at least a year older than on AS). in the 2-3000 dls/month on AS range

« Reply #42 on: November 24, 2021, 12:51 »
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Free things for all

Come on! That's worth at least a $.10  8)

SVH

« Reply #43 on: November 24, 2021, 13:23 »
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I think they reshuffled the order recently. At least that what I see from a small sample. But what do I know?

No agency is willing to make public how they determine in which order the possible hits on a search are being displayed.

« Reply #44 on: November 24, 2021, 14:01 »
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I think they reshuffled the order recently. At least that what I see from a small sample. But what do I know?

No agency is willing to make public how they determine in which order the possible hits on a search are being displayed.

Did a quick check on my best sellers there. They are still ranked high. I somethings believe the location plays into the search as well.

SVH

« Reply #45 on: November 24, 2021, 14:35 »
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Did a quick check on my best sellers there. They are still ranked high. I somethings believe the location plays into the search as well.

When changing the region for some countries I see that one of my best sellers, which was in the first three lines of photos, for all those countries, has dropped to the following lines on the first page:
26 Netherlands
15 USA
18 Great Brittain
22 Germany

Still first page, but still it hurts sales pretty badly actually. Buyers are lazy I guess. They almost never look further then the fifth line or so, let alone a next page. Unless they are looking for something really specific maybe. Otherwise placement is everything I think.

Oh well, it was fun as it lasted  8)


« Reply #46 on: November 24, 2021, 15:02 »
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Did a quick check on my best sellers there. They are still ranked high. I somethings believe the location plays into the search as well.

When changing the region for some countries I see that one of my best sellers, which was in the first three lines of photos, for all those countries, has dropped to the following lines on the first page:
26 Netherlands
15 USA
18 Great Brittain
22 Germany

Still first page, but still it hurts sales pretty badly actually. Buyers are lazy I guess. They almost never look further then the fifth line or so, let alone a next page. Unless they are looking for something really specific maybe. Otherwise placement is everything I think.

Oh well, it was fun as it lasted  8)

Cool stats on your by country. I would say UK, US are two countries that you really want to be high on the rank due to the amount of $$ spent on marketing.

« Reply #47 on: November 24, 2021, 15:40 »
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When changing the region for some countries ... one of my best sellers ... has dropped  ...


That made me curious. I have an image that sells well this time of year and I checked its position for the countries you checked, plus a couple: Netherlands,  USA, UK, Canada, Germany, Spain, France, Italy, Russia. It was in the same position for all countries.

I tried a different search (non-seasonal images) where I have several images that are generally high on the first page and there I did see a difference by country. The images were all shot in the US, but have very high positions in the other countries too - but which ones are higher varies, and although there were many of the same images showing up, the results were more varied that I'd have guessed. It did not seem that the country in which these were located (outdoor scenes) was the driving factor.

Other than recent sales are higher or lower and that drives position changes, I'm not sure what else could be at work.

« Reply #48 on: November 24, 2021, 16:30 »
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When changing the region for some countries ... one of my best sellers ... has dropped  ...


That made me curious. I have an image that sells well this time of year and I checked its position for the countries you checked, plus a couple: Netherlands,  USA, UK, Canada, Germany, Spain, France, Italy, Russia. It was in the same position for all countries.

I tried a different search (non-seasonal images) where I have several images that are generally high on the first page and there I did see a difference by country. The images were all shot in the US, but have very high positions in the other countries too - but which ones are higher varies, and although there were many of the same images showing up, the results were more varied that I'd have guessed. It did not seem that the country in which these were located (outdoor scenes) was the driving factor.

Other than recent sales are higher or lower and that drives position changes, I'm not sure what else could be at work.

My experience with Shutterstock. 
Last year I had made a few photos on economic topics to the Philippines, which had sold quite quickly. Since then I have regular sales to the Philippines of other topics, which was not the case before. The same experiment I have done with other small countries where I had hardly any sales before - with the same result - suddenly my pictures sell e.g. also to Nigeria.
So my guess is if you sell once a lot images in a country, the portfolio will rise in ranking for that country.

« Reply #49 on: November 24, 2021, 16:52 »
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On course for BME on Adobestock, but then again I stopped giving SS any new work (SS work at least a year older than on AS). in the 2-3000 dls/month on AS range

Excuse me, but I didn't understand your statement at all. Maybe it's because English is not my native language, but even with translation software I didn't understand it.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it will be your best month at AS, but the rest is unclear to me.

« Reply #50 on: November 24, 2021, 20:40 »
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On course for BME on Adobestock, but then again I stopped giving SS any new work (SS work at least a year older than on AS). in the 2-3000 dls/month on AS range

Excuse me, but I didn't understand your statement at all. Maybe it's because English is not my native language, but even with translation software I didn't understand it.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it will be your best month at AS, but the rest is unclear to me.

I think he stated his is having a best month ever with Adobe due to his continuation of submitting images to them where he no longer submits images to SS. He's not surprised by this stat as well since he works harder with Adobe.

« Reply #51 on: November 25, 2021, 00:38 »
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Free things for all

Come on! That's worth at least a $.10  8)

Thought it might of been worth $0.33  :P

« Reply #52 on: November 25, 2021, 02:36 »
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On course for BME on Adobestock, but then again I stopped giving SS any new work (SS work at least a year older than on AS). in the 2-3000 dls/month on AS range
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Excuse me, but I didn't understand your statement at all. Maybe it's because English is not my native language, but even with translation software I didn't understand it.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it will be your best month at AS, but the rest is unclear to me.

I think he stated his is having a best month ever with Adobe due to his continuation of submitting images to them where he no longer submits images to SS. He's not surprised by this stat as well since he works harder with Adobe.

Thank you for the explanation.

2-3000 Dls/month only with AS is really impressive. Even though I don't know how big Justanotherfotographer's portfolio is. But it must be good.

« Reply #53 on: November 25, 2021, 03:41 »
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sales are dropping, no shiiiiit sherlock, you are all selling your images for 5 dollar and now adobe takes all sales, how could not have seen this coming???

« Reply #54 on: November 25, 2021, 04:44 »
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sales are dropping, no shiiiiit sherlock, you are all selling your images for 5 dollar and now adobe takes all sales, how could not have seen this coming???

On average, my sales in a year with Adobe are not $5. If they had accepted all the suggested photos for 5 dollars I would have made more profit than otherwise
I didn't participate because I think it's going the wrong way when so much is given away for free to customers. It seems to me that with such a large offer, a customer will first look at the free photos and only if there is nothing there that he likes, at the other photos. As a result, fewer of them will be sold.
A store also tries to lure customers with bargains (not for free) in the hope that they will buy more and stay customers. That will also be the intention here, but I wonder if you can compare this with a store.
« Last Edit: November 25, 2021, 05:15 by thijsdegraaf »

« Reply #55 on: November 25, 2021, 07:18 »
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Never participated in the program either, despite during a time when I needed more money while moving home. I think it's fine agencies offer a few freebies here and there, they all do anyway. But this went way over the top. But maybe, just maybe, sales will return once the freebie giveaway comes to an end, or new customers start buying.   

« Reply #56 on: November 25, 2021, 10:25 »
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"2-3000 Dls/month only with AS is really impressive. Even though I don't know how big Justanotherfotographer's portfolio is. But it must be good."

I know some that has 6,000 DLs for $8,000 this year thus 2,000 to 3,000 DLs per month should bring in $32,000 to $48,000 per year! So, yes their portfolio is very good  8)

« Reply #57 on: November 26, 2021, 14:03 »
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Adobe has become a ghost ship. Tripled portfolio size on last year and the sales have dropped off a cliff for several weeks. I've had 2 sales in the last month despite being on page 1 of quite a few images. Ive seen my portfolio shuffling about with images rising to the top and sitting there but nothing gets bought. Then they drift down again. I know what that looks like to me.

« Reply #58 on: November 26, 2021, 15:38 »
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With two sales in the last month I'm guessing you tripled your portoflio from 10 to 30 images?

« Reply #59 on: November 26, 2021, 17:11 »
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I am not able to start a new thread as my account is new, I am an editorial video producer so no on Adobe or doing photos but every agency seems to be in the race to the bottom, the race to give YOUR work away for free or nearly free or maybe even for "incremental income" or at a huge discount to customers who "normally don't buy stock" in the hopes of conversions (startup speak).

Ya'll are delusional if you think you can still make a living at this or even keep it going as a paying hobby.

Compared the stock agencies to the market-makers in the stock market, if you day or swing trade ya'll know about algorithms, market makers and things that work against the little guy but make the rich very rich.

I get it that the agencies need to make money, most are startups so they have investors or shareholders plus massive overhead, that's business but why all the deals, partner programs, free stuff and more programs to "make you more....incremental income"?.

This industry has become a SCAM, you are being ripped off and there isn't much you can do about it, nothing I can do about it either as I head toward bankruptcy myself.  Why? because you can't compete with free.

What you can do is be VERY selective on which agency you sell through and opt out of all these programs and free stuff but even then, they hold your content on their servers with zero transparency, it's going out the back door by the truckload to "trusted global partners" while you struggle to sell your videos and photos legally in the storefront.

What I am going is learning day and swing trading, it's a long learning curve but when 14-20 year olds are making $3000 to $20,000 a day you'll want to learn, start by following some of them on twitter and learn the language and then learn to trade carefully.

A starting point would be @pbinvesting, @mm_flooded, @mini_tradez, @stxrboy999 these four are 18 and under and make more in a day than any of us will make in stock, there's many more and they also host these Twitter spaces and you can listen in and just start to learn the language.

I plan to keep stock as a hobby, at least I think I do but it's time to tell the agencies to take it and shove it in a dark place.

Sales aren't slow these days, they are slow for US, the agencies are all in business so product is selling, COVID is far from over, travel is expensive and there are rules in every country so stock is being used more and more vs in-person crews, if anything, COVID times should have been boom times for us.

More specifically abut the "free collection", WHY?, oh, it's for customers who don't normally buy stock?,   really?,  Can't think of any other business that gives their product away for free to customers who don't normally buy from them but I do need a new phone so if Apple or Samsung are reading this maybe give me a free phone so I will become a paying customer in the future?.

Inflation?, it's going to the moon, this industry?, prices dropping and free free free.

We gettin scammed real good here.






















« Reply #60 on: November 26, 2021, 17:35 »
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sales are dropping, no shiiiiit sherlock, you are all selling your images for 5 dollar and now adobe takes all sales, how could not have seen this coming???

On average, my sales in a year with Adobe are not $5. If they had accepted all the suggested photos for 5 dollars I would have made more profit than otherwise
I didn't participate because I think it's going the wrong way when so much is given away for free to customers. It seems to me that with such a large offer, a customer will first look at the free photos and only if there is nothing there that he likes, at the other photos. As a result, fewer of them will be sold.
A store also tries to lure customers with bargains (not for free) in the hope that they will buy more and stay customers. That will also be the intention here, but I wonder if you can compare this with a store.

i participated in the $5 event - with NO effect on my other sales - AS earning have been stable over the last 3 years

« Reply #61 on: November 26, 2021, 21:39 »
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I am not able to start a new thread as my account is new, I am an editorial video producer so no on Adobe or doing photos but every agency seems to be in the race to the bottom, the race to give YOUR work away for free or nearly free or maybe even for "incremental income" or at a huge discount to customers who "normally don't buy stock" in the hopes of conversions (startup speak).

Ya'll are delusional if you think you can still make a living at this or even keep it going as a paying hobby.

Compared the stock agencies to the market-makers in the stock market, if you day or swing trade ya'll know about algorithms, market makers and things that work against the little guy but make the rich very rich.

I get it that the agencies need to make money, most are startups so they have investors or shareholders plus massive overhead, that's business but why all the deals, partner programs, free stuff and more programs to "make you more....incremental income"?.

This industry has become a SCAM, you are being ripped off and there isn't much you can do about it, nothing I can do about it either as I head toward bankruptcy myself.  Why? because you can't compete with free.

What you can do is be VERY selective on which agency you sell through and opt out of all these programs and free stuff but even then, they hold your content on their servers with zero transparency, it's going out the back door by the truckload to "trusted global partners" while you struggle to sell your videos and photos legally in the storefront.

What I am going is learning day and swing trading, it's a long learning curve but when 14-20 year olds are making $3000 to $20,000 a day you'll want to learn, start by following some of them on twitter and learn the language and then learn to trade carefully.

A starting point would be @pbinvesting, @mm_flooded, @mini_tradez, @stxrboy999 these four are 18 and under and make more in a day than any of us will make in stock, there's many more and they also host these Twitter spaces and you can listen in and just start to learn the language.

I plan to keep stock as a hobby, at least I think I do but it's time to tell the agencies to take it and shove it in a dark place.

Sales aren't slow these days, they are slow for US, the agencies are all in business so product is selling, COVID is far from over, travel is expensive and there are rules in every country so stock is being used more and more vs in-person crews, if anything, COVID times should have been boom times for us.

More specifically abut the "free collection", WHY?, oh, it's for customers who don't normally buy stock?,   really?,  Can't think of any other business that gives their product away for free to customers who don't normally buy from them but I do need a new phone so if Apple or Samsung are reading this maybe give me a free phone so I will become a paying customer in the future?.

Inflation?, it's going to the moon, this industry?, prices dropping and free free free.

We gettin scammed real good here.

So, as I understand what you're saying

You just joined this forum today, just posting your 2nd comment on somebody else's thread because you're not qualified yet to start your own.

You say we're all going to hell in a handbasket and the solution is WAIT FOR IT!!! to follow you down a rathole of "learning day and swing trading", just as you say you are. "A starting point would be @pbinvesting, @mm_flooded, @mini_tradez, @stxrboy999 these four are 18 and under and make more in a day than any of us will make in stock, there's many more and they also host these Twitter spaces and you can listen in and just start to learn the language."


And then you end with this: "We gettin scammed real good here."

Methinks (suspects) that you may be the self-same scammer you're warning us about.

What say you about that???
« Last Edit: November 26, 2021, 21:42 by marthamarks »

« Reply #62 on: November 26, 2021, 21:41 »
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i participated in the $5 event - with NO effect on my other sales - AS earning have been stable over the last 3 years

Same here.

« Reply #63 on: November 26, 2021, 22:23 »
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sales are dropping, no shiiiiit sherlock, you are all selling your images for 5 dollar and now adobe takes all sales, how could not have seen this coming???

On average, my sales in a year with Adobe are not $5. If they had accepted all the suggested photos for 5 dollars I would have made more profit than otherwise
I didn't participate because I think it's going the wrong way when so much is given away for free to customers. It seems to me that with such a large offer, a customer will first look at the free photos and only if there is nothing there that he likes, at the other photos. As a result, fewer of them will be sold.
A store also tries to lure customers with bargains (not for free) in the hope that they will buy more and stay customers. That will also be the intention here, but I wonder if you can compare this with a store.

i participated in the $5 event - with NO effect on my other sales - AS earning have been stable over the last 3 years
Same for me no loss change, sales are more and up.

« Reply #64 on: November 28, 2021, 12:09 »
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I am very happy with my sales on Adobe Stock.
This month is the best of all.
Likewise with Shutterstock, I'm having my best month ever there too.
I'm uploading new media almost every day.


« Reply #65 on: November 29, 2021, 05:58 »
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Last year, it was SS that gave me the highest income. However, since the introduction of the free collection, AS has mostly (9 out of 12 months, and it's 4 months straight now) been my biggest source of microstock income. I've not participated in the free collection. But it may attract enough new visitors to make it more popular enough to cause the difference. This month is an OK, certainly far better than SS.

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« Reply #66 on: November 29, 2021, 15:41 »
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Adobe has become a ghost ship. Tripled portfolio size on last year and the sales have dropped off a cliff for several weeks. I've had 2 sales in the last month despite being on page 1 of quite a few images. Ive seen my portfolio shuffling about with images rising to the top and sitting there but nothing gets bought. Then they drift down again. I know what that looks like to me.

Interesting, so you are personal proof that being on page one, doesn't really mean automatic downloads and more money? I always thought page one was a prize.

You have personally seen your images get a boost, as new or just some other reason, and then go down into the average area? Does AS have a new image boost? I never took the time to do research and make notes for verification.

« Reply #67 on: November 30, 2021, 08:26 »
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sales are dropping, no shiiiiit sherlock, you are all selling your images for 5 dollar and now adobe takes all sales, how could not have seen this coming???

On average, my sales in a year with Adobe are not $5. If they had accepted all the suggested photos for 5 dollars I would have made more profit than otherwise
I didn't participate because I think it's going the wrong way when so much is given away for free to customers. It seems to me that with such a large offer, a customer will first look at the free photos and only if there is nothing there that he likes, at the other photos. As a result, fewer of them will be sold.
A store also tries to lure customers with bargains (not for free) in the hope that they will buy more and stay customers. That will also be the intention here, but I wonder if you can compare this with a store.

i participated in the $5 event - with NO effect on my other sales - AS earning have been stable over the last 3 years

Exactly... if anything, they went up a bit.

The problem with some of the percentages being quoted in terms of increase/decreasess in sales / earnings is knowing what is a normal sales month. If you sell 100 a month, it's very easy to see big swings one way or the other.... 500 a month is better but even at 1500 I see spikes and look back to the same month over previous years to get a feel as to the average. Swings and round-a-bouts. One month down and another goes up. Best to focus on producing the best content you can.

« Reply #68 on: November 30, 2021, 09:17 »
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Adobe has become a ghost ship. Tripled portfolio size on last year and the sales have dropped off a cliff for several weeks. I've had 2 sales in the last month despite being on page 1 of quite a few images. Ive seen my portfolio shuffling about with images rising to the top and sitting there but nothing gets bought. Then they drift down again. I know what that looks like to me.

Interesting, so you are personal proof that being on page one, doesn't really mean automatic downloads and more money? I always thought page one was a prize.

You have personally seen your images get a boost, as new or just some other reason, and then go down into the average area? Does AS have a new image boost? I never took the time to do research and make notes for verification.

Images on Adobestock have a 30 day ranking time and then are set by then.

« Reply #69 on: November 30, 2021, 12:53 »
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The problem with some of the percentages being quoted in terms of increase/decreasess in sales / earnings is knowing what is a normal sales month. If you sell 100 a month, it's very easy to see big swings one way or the other.... 500 a month is better but even at 1500 I see spikes and look back to the same month over previous years to get a feel as to the average. Swings and round-a-bouts. One month down and another goes up. Best to focus on producing the best content you can.

right! and many of the reports of no/fewer sales are from those with dozens, not hundreds of sales.

i use a 4 mo running avg which smooths the month-month variations, but still not a smooth curve.

yet another problem with yr to yr comparisons is it doesnt account for the world changing - recessions, covid, etc


 

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