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« Reply #50 on: June 07, 2021, 23:07 »
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When we know the content will be selected?

The first batch of accepted assets will be moved to the free collection shortly after the nomination period closes on June 23, 2021, at 9am PDT. We may accept additional files from your nominated photos and move them in batches to the free collection until September 30, 2021. You will be notified and receive payments for each accepted batch of photos should that occur. 

-Mat


« Reply #51 on: June 07, 2021, 23:59 »
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Deleted my comment since it has no value here, will keep it to myself.
« Last Edit: June 09, 2021, 00:49 by Camillo »

« Reply #52 on: June 08, 2021, 00:24 »
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It only takes about 3 of the "custom" downloads at ~$1.75-$1.90 to make more than the $5 an image will make in the free section, so slow but regular sellers will do better in the paid section, IMO. Everyone's situation will be different, but excluding all the zero download images makes this a non-starter for me.

No kidding.  What sells on Adobe is very different than what sells with other agencies.  Not going to give away images that are selling elsewhere just because they are not big sellers on Adobe. 

MxR

« Reply #53 on: June 08, 2021, 01:28 »
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"Acepto" button dont works

« Reply #54 on: June 08, 2021, 01:44 »
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Adobe is the best.

« Reply #55 on: June 08, 2021, 01:50 »
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i Have files there that are over 300 downloads and are good sellers on other sites too. dont really know what to do, but if they are picked by adobe(not by me, cuz adobe may pick any of them if they want to). Many over 100-200 over the past years. considering that adobe does give us relatively good money for the downloads, im quite in a pinch here...


« Reply #56 on: June 08, 2021, 02:04 »
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No one is going to pay for an image on one site that he can get for free on other sites

This seems true until you factor in laziness / apathy or pure ignorance that an image is available for free on the part of many buyers.
In addition the opportunity costs of scouring the internet for a free version outweighs the costs of getting the most convenient option and many buyers are constrained by coroprate rules around where they can obtain images. The fact that the same images can be available for zero to 10s or even 100s of dollars illustrates its an oversimplification.

« Reply #57 on: June 08, 2021, 02:10 »
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i Have files there that are over 300 downloads and are good sellers on other sites too. dont really know what to do, but if they are picked by adobe(not by me, cuz adobe may pick any of them if they want to). Many over 100-200 over the past years. considering that adobe does give us relatively good money for the downloads, im quite in a pinch here...
They don't seem to pick images with that many downloads. For me they only picked images with less than 30 downloads. If they picked any of my images with 100+ sales, I'd not select them as there is no way the $5 you get for the image will be more than what you can earn with the image in a year. I also didn't select any of the images that sell regularly on other sites, even if they don't sell well on Adobe (Which is a majority of the images, because on Adobe only very few of my images manage to sell regulary, in opposite to other stock sites) . The risk of potentially compromising sales for these images on other agencies for just $5 just isn't worth it to me.

« Reply #58 on: June 08, 2021, 02:21 »
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No one is going to pay for an image on one site that he can get for free on other sites

This seems true until you factor in laziness / apathy or pure ignorance that an image is available for free on the part of many buyers.
In addition the opportunity costs of scouring the internet for a free version outweighs the costs of getting the most convenient option and many buyers are constrained by coroprate rules around where they can obtain images. The fact that the same images can be available for zero to 10s or even 100s of dollars illustrates its an oversimplification.

That may be true, but I have experienced first hand what offering an image "for free" can do to an image: 2 years ago a big mobile company bought a licence for one of my photos from iStock, pasted "Happy Easter" in a corner and offered it as "free download greeting card" (Even though IStock's licence doesn't allow this. Contacted iStock multiple times about it, but they keep ignoring me). The image is by now all over the internet. It doesnt't just pop up everywhere on my facebook or Instagram feed around easter, it goes so far that I have seen it - with the "happy easter" text - used commercially for things like onlineshops way more than once. (And yes, I actually tried to sue through Pixsy, but it's always some "We don't support cases in this country", or "We only go after big fish, there isn't enough money to be gained here" or "It's not worth it as the image is available on microstock for a couple of cents, so there isn't much to gain" stuff, so I gave up and consider this image a lost case.) And this was a really good image with lots of commercial value. Now someone who has for an example a SS account might not browse the internet to see whether he can get an image for free somewhere, but I am pretty sure the fact that the image is so widely used all over the internet might make it less attractive for some customers to buy. Would you pay an Enhanced licence to print an image as a physical postcard, when you have seen it online a thousand times already?
I have never seen any of my images used that often online, not even the ones with hundreds of downloads, so, nope, I am not risking my bestsellers to be floating all around the internet for free. And even if Adobe just offers them for free for a year - you can bet that after that these images will stay available for free on the internet forever: You will find them on free stock site galleries, free wallpaper sites, heck, you'll probably find them on paid stock sites as well.

The only images I am willing to offer for free in exchange for 5$ are images where I don't expect to earn $5 with on any microstock site.

In the end everyone has to decide this for themselves. I am not judging anyone who says he wants safe $5 instead of potentiall earnings that might or might not happen. I have selected a few images myself, just not images that sell regulary anywhere, because for me offering decent sellers for free for $5 is a no go. Adobe selected some of my images where even if they offered me $500 for just one image I would still have said no. They just sell too well on other agencies to take the risk.
« Last Edit: June 08, 2021, 03:05 by Firn »

PZF

« Reply #59 on: June 08, 2021, 02:54 »
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'This doesn't have an impact on the Creative Cloud bonus program. Downloads in Free will not count toward your sales statistics. '

I'm confused. Downloads from free WILL or WILL NOT count towards the free PS etc deal?

Hate the idea of yet more free anyway. :(

« Reply #60 on: June 08, 2021, 03:01 »
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I am not a big fan of the free collections or giving out images to the customers for free. But I see why and how the market goes to this direction. If any agency ever wants to build a free collection this the the way how to do it. Adobe can always surprise me how fair they are with their contributors. And also with their customers! Since a curated good free collection is not a useless one as it is on most of the other sites. Thank you and you have my full support!

« Reply #61 on: June 08, 2021, 03:22 »
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I will not accept. I don't believe in free collections.

I only believe in the quality of the work. I have always made good money doing quality work and have always bought high quality templates for my marketing. And it has always worked.

Perhaps more work should be done on the quality of contributor pages because they are among the worst of all agencies.

Unfortunately, in the last two months, sales on Adobe have been falling (see the poll results)  and the RPD is lower than Shutterstock. Something is wrong with the company's marketing strategies.

« Reply #62 on: June 08, 2021, 03:34 »
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from 2600+ files eligible for nomination I nominated few just to see if this will affect sales. less then 5 I think.

my much worst problem with adobestock is lack of sales last few weeks after region change (even tho I shoot isolated people not specific to any region)

better get back to good sales of paid files.

but it's also fair if someone think this is good deal... good luck to everyone.

« Reply #63 on: June 08, 2021, 03:55 »
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my much worst problem with adobestock is lack of sales last few weeks after region change (even tho I shoot isolated people not specific to any region)


I agree

This is my Adobe Stock RPD in 2021.

Jan 0,90$
Feb 1,05$
Mar 0,94$
Apr 0,85$
May 0,76$
Jun 0,72$ (first 7 days)

And earnings go from >600$/month to 300/400$/month, down 45% ... Why ?

SS RPD

May 0,89$
Jun 0,88$ (first 7 days) ...


« Reply #64 on: June 08, 2021, 04:46 »
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I'm happy to participate with the full allocation of files accepted by Adobe.  My experience of Adobe over the last few years is that they have been one of the fairest and most professional of agencies.  I'm happy to go with their judgement.

« Reply #65 on: June 08, 2021, 05:09 »
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I'm happy to participate with the full allocation of files accepted by Adobe.  My experience of Adobe over the last few years is that they have been one of the fairest and most professional of agencies.  I'm happy to go with their judgement.
Me too. I think money in the hand is better than trying to second guess what may happen everyone can make their own choice.

« Reply #66 on: June 08, 2021, 06:37 »
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is there any agency offering free images with extended licence allowing to sell Prints and Merch on PODs ?

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #67 on: June 08, 2021, 07:27 »
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is there any agency offering free images with extended licence allowing to sell Prints and Merch on PODs ?
I sure hope not.

« Reply #68 on: June 08, 2021, 07:42 »
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Mat, one more question:

You said the images in the free section do come with a standard license.
What happens, if a customer would need/want an EL for such an image? Can they still buy that EL (and we get the usual royalties)?
In the addendum it says (point 6): "During the Free Period, you will not receive any additional payment for Free Collection Works beyond the Free Payment"
That seems to exclude such a possibility, but maybe it's just something that should be clarified...

Thanks!

« Reply #69 on: June 08, 2021, 08:58 »
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I've tried Chrome, Edge and Firefox and none will activate the greyed out accept button even after I scroll down to read all the disclaimer.

« Reply #70 on: June 08, 2021, 09:33 »
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Hi Mat,
will a regular customer see free content intermixed with the "standard" content within the search results?

« Reply #71 on: June 08, 2021, 09:41 »
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Hi Mat,
will a regular customer see free content intermixed with the "standard" content within the search results?

Best would be indeed:
Free pic is one of a batch and similar images shown up are for sale. so the customer can select the free image or might prefer one of the images on sale.

« Reply #72 on: June 08, 2021, 10:06 »
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Mat, one more question:

You said the images in the free section do come with a standard license.
What happens, if a customer would need/want an EL for such an image? Can they still buy that EL (and we get the usual royalties)?
In the addendum it says (point 6): "During the Free Period, you will not receive any additional payment for Free Collection Works beyond the Free Payment"
That seems to exclude such a possibility, but maybe it's just something that should be clarified...

Thanks!

Thanks for th e question @dirkr.

No, Extended licenses are not available for purchase on free photos. Customer can however, click on your portfolio link or see similar images and purchase an Extended license on another photo in the series if you have one available.

-Mat

« Reply #73 on: June 08, 2021, 10:47 »
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Hi Mat

I have images in my portfolio, i would give out for this program.

But, can you/Adobe make it a bit easier to nominate them, if someone doesnt want to nominate either all, or select every single pic.

Maybe, Adobe can make a button on each page to select all (on every page), so it would be easier to deselect the ones, i don't want to have in the free section?

« Reply #74 on: June 08, 2021, 10:49 »
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@Matt

Please answer my question very clear. I've 550 images nominated, will I get the payment for these in 1 go or it will be paid partially?




 

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