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« Reply #125 on: June 10, 2021, 11:44 »
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If you have ever uploaded images to Yayimages (Yaymicro), check your pictures in their portfolio on Adobe https://stock.adobe.com/ru/contributor/208541429/yay-images
If you find that they are selling your pictures, soon your photos have a chance to be transferred  to Adobe free download section discussed above.


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« Reply #126 on: June 10, 2021, 12:55 »
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I don't see any banner or way to nominate files on my dashboard. Am I missing something? Can anyone screencap what it looks like?

See this snippet from my Dashboard - if you don't have any photos, perhaps that's why you don't see this?

No I don't have photos, I thought it would also count for vectors/illustrations. Makes sense now, thanks!

« Reply #127 on: June 10, 2021, 13:18 »
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If you have ever uploaded images to Yayimages (Yaymicro), check your pictures in their portfolio on Adobe https://stock.adobe.com/ru/contributor/208541429/yay-images
If you find that they are selling your pictures, soon your photos have a chance to be transferred  to Adobe free download section discussed above.

Is it only on the Russian site?
It takes very very long to open it - from Indonesia.
I tried to change the region - because I remember where the link should be, but then I got PAGE NOT FOUND. Maybe Yay only offers in Russia? To get not known about it from it own contributors, who have to contact each and all sites personally if they want their images delete there, because Yay does not care about keeping selling without paying their contributors. For me it is new, that they also sell on Adobe.

« Reply #128 on: June 10, 2021, 21:04 »
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I tried to change the region - because I remember where the link should be, but then I got PAGE NOT FOUND.
Try this link https://stock.adobe.com/contributor/208541429/yay-images?load_type=author&prev_url=detail
Or find for example image id 383611053 an click on the author Yay Images.

P.S. Now Yay Images page doesn't exist. Maybe they were banned after my complains.
« Last Edit: June 11, 2021, 06:46 by zastavkin »

« Reply #129 on: June 11, 2021, 01:05 »
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Will we know if our accepted images are being downloaded in the free collection and how many times?

« Reply #130 on: June 11, 2021, 08:17 »
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Mat,

How will artists know when and which images are chosen?

Will there be some sort of notation on the images in our portfolios? Perhaps another filter in the collections?

Or will they just disappear from our portfolios?

I would think we need some kind of record of the images as to the date there are no longer for sale in our portfolios and the date they are expected back on sale for us. Especially since there is to be three waves of acceptance, it could get confusing and difficult to track.

Thanks for you answers.

« Reply #131 on: June 11, 2021, 09:04 »
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Will we know if our accepted images are being downloaded in the free collection and how many times?

No, there are no stats available for content in the free collection.

thanks for the question,

Mat

« Reply #132 on: June 11, 2021, 09:06 »
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Mat,

How will artists know when and which images are chosen?

Will there be some sort of notation on the images in our portfolios? Perhaps another filter in the collections?

Or will they just disappear from our portfolios?

I would think we need some kind of record of the images as to the date there are no longer for sale in our portfolios and the date they are expected back on sale for us. Especially since there is to be three waves of acceptance, it could get confusing and difficult to track.

Thanks for you answers.

You will receive an email notification with the number of images that were accepted and the payment amount deposited into your Adobe Stock balance. You should be able to see the files you have accepted in the free collection in the dashboard section of the portal. I will double check as to what that will look like specifically and get back to you.

Thanks,

Mat Hayward

« Reply #133 on: June 11, 2021, 11:52 »
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Some of my photos were tagged.  The common point of all these images is that all already sold, via Adobe and other sites, more that 4 copies, except for a single one.  But I sold full resolution copies of that one via other site..   If someone who purchased a copy was to find the image available for free, do you think its a returning customer?  If another agency also has the image in their catalogue, that is a good way to kill competition.  Its good for Adobe but for photogs?  Those who maintain portfolios with many agencies may find it difficult if they opt in to have their image accepted on other sites. 

Not knowing the number of downloads of free images is a major show stopper and for that reason alone I would not opt in.  Is it positive exposure to have your work available for free-I wonder....?  How much would it cost to purchase from Adobe a photo licensed for unlimited use for a year?

My sales dropped dramatically at Adobe last year. Is it the creation of that database of free images on Adobe that resulted in decreased sales?   

« Reply #134 on: June 12, 2021, 14:53 »
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Hi Matt. I have a question about completing the nomination process. I have nominated selected images on my dashboard and I am using Firefox at 100%. However I am not seeing a contributor agreement that has been mentioned elsewhere as completion to the nomination process.. Is there something that i need to do to prompt this agreement? Thanks Matt.

shutterview

« Reply #135 on: June 13, 2021, 06:18 »
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Some of my photos were tagged.  The common point of all these images is that all already sold, via Adobe and other sites, more that 4 copies, except for a single one.  But I sold full resolution copies of that one via other site..   If someone who purchased a copy was to find the image available for free, do you think its a returning customer?  If another agency also has the image in their catalogue, that is a good way to kill competition.  Its good for Adobe but for photogs?  Those who maintain portfolios with many agencies may find it difficult if they opt in to have their image accepted on other sites. 

Not knowing the number of downloads of free images is a major show stopper and for that reason alone I would not opt in.  Is it positive exposure to have your work available for free-I wonder....?  How much would it cost to purchase from Adobe a photo licensed for unlimited use for a year?

My sales dropped dramatically at Adobe last year. Is it the creation of that database of free images on Adobe that resulted in decreased sales?
Well written. I'm afraid that this is becoming a standard, other agencies are following. In fact, Adobe is just forced to do the same. If we would be given 3, 4 or 5$ per picture for a year or whatever use, in the future, who will produce the content for that price I wonder? This time maybe we can bite the story these pictures are not selling anyway, but next time they will offer us the same amount for much better sellers. This doesn't look good.  I've already made enough for financial independence (4% rule), thanks to microstock in the last 10 years, but I pity the young and coming, having to deal with this cruel and unfair working environment.
« Last Edit: June 13, 2021, 13:03 by shutterview »

Clair Voyant

« Reply #136 on: June 13, 2021, 10:17 »
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I just reviewed the content Adobe suggests I nominate... My conclusion taking everything into consideration is that this offer is only shooting yourself in the foot. Stepping over dollars to pick up pennies.

If Adobe wanted to pay me $5 for every image they suggest I nominate I'd give it some thought, but with no guarantee of how many images they will actually accept and pay for is like dangling a carrot in front of me which in my view is a very cheap way for Adobe to get a curated collection of freebies for primarily the sole benefit of Adobe.

It would be more of a bilateral benefit if Adobe limited the free collection to small web usage ie: 450px wide or high and only 72 dpi with a link or incentive for the freeloader to actually purchase the image at a higher res. That would be a win win situation and well worth consideration.

Seriously I am not that hungry for a few bucks to give my hi-res images away for free when they produce an income stream from other sources.

« Last Edit: June 13, 2021, 10:53 by Clair Voyant »

Clair Voyant

« Reply #137 on: June 13, 2021, 10:19 »
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Can I give Adobe an upfront cloud payment of $5 to test drive Premiere Pro for 12 months in hopes it turns me into a paying customer? Asking for a friend.

Is Adobe willing to put the shoe on the other foot? Still asking for a friend.


« Reply #138 on: June 13, 2021, 13:26 »
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Honestly, most sales from other agencies comes from subscription, and customers never use all the photos they can, so there comes the money from, from unused subscriptions. It's not like, they're going to search if there is that one particular image for free on Adobe.

I find those arguments just ridicilous.

shutterview

« Reply #139 on: June 13, 2021, 13:36 »
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Honestly, most sales from other agencies comes from subscription, and customers never use all the photos they can, so there comes the money from, from unused subscriptions. It's not like, they're going to search if there is that one particular image for free on Adobe.

I find those arguments just ridicilous.
The point is the other agencies are doing the same thing, offering free collections. That is the direction sales models are going.  We are talking about the harm a free collection, and your pictures in it, will make to you on that particular agency. It is not that Adobe is the only one offering free collection, and customers on other agencies are continuing to use their subscriptions there, that is not the point.

« Reply #140 on: June 13, 2021, 13:51 »
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Honestly, most sales from other agencies comes from subscription.
True, most sales come from subscriptions, but not most earnings are. While most of my sales are from subs, I earn the most money from non-sub sales.
Also, big companies with a 750 images per month subscription probably won't search for free alternatives as many, as you said, might not even use up all their images and they have a large budget to begin with. But these are the 0.10$ customers I don't really care about anyways.
What I care about are the smaller customers who have a 10 image subscription plan or even buy images on demand because they actually earn me dollar amounts instead of cents per sale. And someone who is on a tight budget and  has only 5 or 10 images he can download within a month might very likely look for free alternatives.

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #141 on: June 14, 2021, 06:06 »
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I just reviewed the content Adobe suggests I nominate... My conclusion taking everything into consideration is that this offer is only shooting yourself in the foot. Stepping over dollars to pick up pennies.


Not all as simple as you are making it. In my case, I nominated images with no sales, it wasn't complicated or difficult to decide. If accepted that's more than the zero they have brought me in the past.

Watch for more to be following this idea, which is very similar to Instant Pay. "trending now..." free images to attract buyers.  :-\

shutterview

« Reply #142 on: June 14, 2021, 06:31 »
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I just reviewed the content Adobe suggests I nominate... My conclusion taking everything into consideration is that this offer is only shooting yourself in the foot. Stepping over dollars to pick up pennies.


Not all as simple as you are making it. In my case, I nominated images with no sales, it wasn't complicated or difficult to decide. If accepted that's more than the zero they have brought me in the past.

Watch for more to be following this idea, which is very similar to Instant Pay. "trending now..." free images to attract buyers.  :-\
For me it is not even that simple. Many of my nominated images with no sales are similars that have never made it through - because other pictures from the series have. Once the one with no sales starts being offered for free, it will kill the whole series. So, be careful, look at your nominated no sellers, if they are part of a series that otherwise sells well.

« Reply #143 on: June 14, 2021, 10:04 »
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Then don't nominate any pictures. You have a choice. Problem solved.

I nominated everything that meets criteria. Because I don't want to go through my portfolio and checking every single image. Let Adobe do the work for me. Also, I don't expect much images to be accepted, maybe few at most. And just because a few of my images will be offered for free, I can't see how that could kill my otherwise "crazy sales" at other sites. I mean, you have an argument there, but is higly unlikely. I had 200$, 300$ gross sales on Alamy and the same images are offered on every single ageny. Those who shop on SS will buy at SS and won't be like "Hey let's google for that image if I can find it free elsewhere". Thats my opinion on it.

shutterview

« Reply #144 on: June 14, 2021, 10:39 »
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I agree that, an the end, only couple of pictures will be selected from each portfolio. Too much talk about an irrelevant subject.

« Reply #145 on: June 14, 2021, 11:58 »
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Hi Matt,

I have a question from the other point of view. Is this free collection available only as the 10 free photos for a new member signed to Adobe Stock and then he/she cant download more for free but must either cancel or choose one of the paid plans?  Or is the free collection available also in another way?
 
And if only as a free trial, is it possible, that someone who cancels a free membership after a month, will create another Adobe ID with another email address and will get another 10 free images?  Or do you have the means not to allow such a procedure by one person or company for a longer time?

« Reply #146 on: June 14, 2021, 12:01 »
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Hi Matt,

I have a question from the other point of view. Is this free collection available only as the 10 free photos for a new member signed to Adobe Stock and then he/she cant download more for free but must either cancel or choose one of the paid plans?  Or is the free collection available also in another way?


No, it's unlimited free to everyone. The gallery has been up for a while already:

https://stock.adobe.com/uk/search/free?safe_search=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3A3d%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Aillustration%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Aimage%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Aphoto%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Atemplate%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Azip_vector%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Avideo%5D=1&filters%5Bfree_collection%5D=1&filters%5Border%5D=relevance&limit=100&search_type=filter-select&search_page=1&get_facets=1

« Reply #147 on: June 15, 2021, 07:36 »
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is there any chance that a button "nominate all images on thee current page" will be added? Otherwise it is very time consuming task to manually select/deselect images/

« Reply #148 on: June 15, 2021, 09:39 »
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Hi Matt , or anybody else who knows this  :)

I just want to confirm.
I don't have to press the button 'nominate all all eligible', instead I can go one by one ( where on the first one an agreement appears ) and that will work?

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #149 on: June 15, 2021, 10:03 »
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Hi Matt , or anybody else who knows this  :)

I just want to confirm.
I don't have to press the button 'nominate all all eligible', instead I can go one by one ( where on the first one an agreement appears ) and that will work?

That's what I did, sort of? I nominated ALL and then went back and unchecked the ones I didn't want to be free. Easy at that, I started with images, sorted by sales. By the time I got to the no sales, my work was done.

None of my vectors were allowed to be nominated for some reason?

is there any chance that a button "nominate all images on thee current page" will be added? Otherwise it is very time consuming task to manually select/deselect images/

See above. At least that seems easiest for me? Picking what I don't want free was less work than picking what I would.

For the question of sets and similar, and what has sold and what has not. Beyond the fact that I don't do series, sets and similar, there's a reason the best ones have sold and the others have no sales. If they were equal, the sales would be distributed between them. I don't worry too much about losing a sale of a similar, as I have very, very few.

Sometimes I think people over analyze the whole market and one of those would be competing with oneself. I used to think that I did. Now I believe that buyers don't shop price and don't shop agencies, they generally buy from their main site. Of course if they can't find what the want, they will go look elsewhere. I'm talking about the majority of their licenses. If I have an image free on AS there's a good chance that someone who buys from another agency, won't be looking.

In general my best sellers on all agencies, are the same images. There are some variations by type, vectors vs editorial, but if I look at the top 20 across all places I every joined, they are nearly identical. The biggest difference is illustrations sell better on Adobe (and they are included in the free deal?) and Editorial sells best at SS. (and Adobe doesn't take news editorial) So hardly anything crosses. That which does, is not going to get checked by me, for free.  :)

I worry more about the idea that some people have posted, that free means some people will collect and archive, everything they can download for free, for future use, and ignore the terms of the license. Early on, SS buyers with the unlimited (25 a day) contracts would download 25 a day for a year. Once they had checked new, every day, for a year and downloaded the best, they had a collection of almost 10,000 "best" new images.

What I like from Adobe is, a chance to make money from images that have never sold anywhere, for anything, ever. So before all the worrying and checking and complicated analysis... Adobe has to accept one of my images. They are not accepting big numbers and will be very selective. Why worry about something, a situation, where I might get nothing selected at all?

Show me the money! I'd need 50 DLs on SS! I'll take the money now and be happy.



 

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