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Agency Based Discussion => Adobe Stock => Topic started by: gnirtS on November 30, 2023, 23:39

Title: AI dumpster-fire policies land AS in trouble again....
Post by: gnirtS on November 30, 2023, 23:39
https://petapixel.com/2023/11/27/adobe-stock-changes-policy-on-ai-images-depciting-real-events/

From older article here: https://petapixel.com/2023/11/07/adobe-stock-is-selling-ai-generated-images-of-the-israel-hamas-conflict/


A "policy change" isnt going to do anything.  Vast numbers of people are submitting AI fully aware of the policies and rules, have no intention of following them and have no chance of getting caught.

Title: Re: AI dumpster-fire policies land AS in trouble again....
Post by: Her Ugliness on December 01, 2023, 01:22
It would be nice to have more feedback from Adobe about what is allowed and what not.

Because some of the examples in the new article, to my understanding, do not break Adobe's new AI rule, like "a girl holding his (sic) teddy bear with destructive civilian area during war time, sorrow scenery of war victims, idea for support children’s right" or the BLM protest image.
They show concepts but do not claim to be taken at a particular place or a particular time at any particular real event.


Title: Re: AI dumpster-fire policies land AS in trouble again....
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on December 01, 2023, 12:08
The girl with the teddy bear is one of 42 similar genAI images you get with a search for girl teddy bear ukraine - sad children in a war zone with a teddy bear.

This clearly isn't in Ukraine or in a war zone and it's the keywords that lead you to it not the title. One of the (unanswered) questions I asked in the thread about the new policy was whether keywords counted - which I think they clearly should. Keywords also determine what shows up for a buyer when they search.

child teddy bear war results in 632 genAI images; child gaza 938 images, gaza 4,323, palestine 10,069. These aren't for tourism promotion...

Not only has nothing been removed since the "change of policy" but the number of pseudo-editorial images has grown - one thousand more gaza images in 6 days, for example.

A rule without any enforcement is just a CYA maneuver.
Title: Re: AI dumpster-fire policies land AS in trouble again....
Post by: SuperPhoto on December 01, 2023, 12:33
Strange no one that seems upset about this hasn't replied to the following.

If it is clearly labelled as genAI, a concept, etc - and is not deliberately misleading (i.e., it doesn't say "live footage" or "real photo taken on such & such a date"), then the onus is on the person USING the image to use it in the proper context and not deliberately mislead, otherwise it gets really stupid.

Because then one could argue that ANY kind of "stock footage", "photos", etc that is not "editorial", or a "candid" shot - could be "misleading", etc. You don't actually think those hundreds of thousands of "diverse, african, arabic, mexican, disabled, missing arms, midget, giant, obese fat and skinny group of smiling co-workers doing business presentations" are actually CANDID photos, do you? Yet - they are used by businesses trying to portray a "diverse" image to get money ala "ESG" "goals" (and that term "diverse" is so annoyingly overused, but completely different topic).

"News" organizations unfortunately most of the time deliberately "at best" mislead, and in normal times outright lie, deceive, manipulate, etc to change public policy, shape people's perception and views of things, etc, etc. Most of the major outlets are indirectly/directly owned by blackrock/vanguard/statestreet - whose pretty much have a very specific agenda of promoting the following stories (and the reason they do it is for a psychotic desire for control and "monnay"):


Mainstream "NEWS" DELIBERATELY misleads. Not only to push the above agendas, - but for "monnay"... they CRAVE people clicking on those scary clickbait headlines, so they can collect countless pennies from every ad you view and click...

If the image (whether stock or genai) is clearly labelled as a stock photo/portray of a concept, and not misleading itself - then it is fine. It is up to the person USING the image not to deliberately misuse/abuse the image(s)/video(s)/etc. Onus is on THEM.

Otherwise - at what point do you stop the "nannying"?
Title: Re: AI dumpster-fire policies land AS in trouble again....
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on December 01, 2023, 14:39
“ Stock content should always be clearly marked when used in editorial content to help ensure people are not misled into thinking a real event is being depicted by the stock content “

What if the stock content represents a real event?