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Agency Based Discussion => Adobe Stock => Topic started by: redo on April 17, 2013, 03:37

Title: all vectors for 4 credits - for nonexclusivs
Post by: redo on April 17, 2013, 03:37: I got a newsletter from fotolia.
From now on all vectors for nonexclusives cost only 4 credits.
4 x xs-price. But as a nonexclusiv you can't change the xs-price....
So I lost 50% from my vector income.
Great.
Maybe I delete all my vector-files at fotolia ?
I'm really thinking about it.

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15 minutes after I got the newsletter the prices are set down.
Ok. I start to delete my files !
One after another.
I hate fotolia. Really.
Title: Re: all vectors for 4 credits - for nonexclusivs
Post by: Microbius on April 17, 2013, 03:52: Is that for everyone or just you? I haven't got the email. I can't believe they'd do that!! I got royally screwed when they shifted the goal posts on getting to emerald last time, literally just managed to pass the milestone now, if they pull this just when I feel like I've caught up I think my head may explode!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: all vectors for 4 credits - for nonexclusivs
Post by: tiero on April 17, 2013, 03:56: I got an email too...congratulation fotolia, another step in a wrong direction! :(
Title: Re: all vectors for 4 credits - for nonexclusivs
Post by: Microbius on April 17, 2013, 03:57: Just checked some of my work and they have been priced down to 4 credits!!!!!!!! that's half the price of a large jpeg, really insane!!
Title: Re: all vectors for 4 credits - for nonexclusivs
Post by: THP Creative on April 17, 2013, 04:05: I didn't get that email?

Why on earth are agencies (FT, GR) pricing vectors cheaper than most jpegs?!
Title: Re: all vectors for 4 credits - for nonexclusivs
Post by: Microbius on April 17, 2013, 04:10: I still don't have the mail, but have realized I can price up my files to 8 credits (Emerald), but I can't just increase the vector price, I have to increase all the jpeg sizes too. So I guess they have just made all my jpegs more expensive for buyers. Seems they really didn't think too much about this before pushing the button.
Title: Re: all vectors for 4 credits - for nonexclusivs
Post by: OM on April 17, 2013, 04:44: If I read the mail correctly (don't do vectors myself) a vector can be priced at 4X your max. allowed credits price for an XS jpeg file. If you are emerald, can you price an XS jpeg at 3 credits and therefore 12 for a vector?
Title: Re: all vectors for 4 credits - for nonexclusivs
Post by: Microbius on April 17, 2013, 04:51: 2 credits, so 8 creds max. Not as bad as I first thought for me, but awful for anyone that isn't an emerald. Very depressing that they would do this to contributors, most of us didn't even get an email!!
Title: Re: all vectors for 4 credits - for nonexclusivs
Post by: davidgoh on April 17, 2013, 05:17: Yikes. Not even a week of lead time? :S That's pretty harsh.
Title: Re: all vectors for 4 credits - for nonexclusivs
Post by: redo on April 17, 2013, 05:47: So. The first 10% of my illustrations are deleted.
I will think about what I will do with the rest.
A RPD at fotolia under shutterstock-RPD is not acceptable for me.

Also I hate these phrases in the newsletter:"We want to harmonise the conditions..."
What a bad joke !!!
Title: Re: all vectors for 4 credits - for nonexclusivs
Post by: Tryingmybest on April 17, 2013, 08:35: Unlike Yaymicro, they don't give you an easy way to respond or give feedback. FT needs to get their act together. We are not their slaves.
Title: Re: all vectors for 4 credits - for nonexclusivs
Post by: MisterElements on April 17, 2013, 09:23: They must be just dumb....this hurts them as well. They make less we make less = real dumb FT.....no one wins :o I guess we have to see if this leads to a higher volume of sales.
Title: Re: all vectors for 4 credits - for nonexclusivs
Post by: cthoman on April 17, 2013, 09:40: It's nice of these companies to firmly reinforce the decisions I made to delete my portfolio with them. It's like the gift that keeps on giving.

I will say for FT though, they were very reasonable and helpful to pay out a final balance when I closed my account.
Title: Re: all vectors for 4 credits - for nonexclusivs
Post by: VB inc on April 17, 2013, 09:42: I think fotolia is making my decision easier not to upload my vectors there.
Title: Re: all vectors for 4 credits - for nonexclusivs
Post by: Ploink on April 17, 2013, 09:51: Looking forward to the moment they "streamline the standards" for photos - at half the price of an XS, maybe? :o
Title: Re: all vectors for 4 credits - for nonexclusivs
Post by: asmai on April 17, 2013, 09:53: This is exactly what you should always expect from FT! They just try everything they could to rip you off.
Deleted 10% of my (selling) port 2 weeks ago, now going to remove at least 20% more till the end of the month.
Title: Re: all vectors for 4 credits - for nonexclusivs
Post by: daveh900 on April 23, 2013, 08:29: Had a bunch of sales in the past day or two and it appears vectors are now 5 credits.
Title: Re: all vectors for 4 credits - for nonexclusivs
Post by: Microbius on April 23, 2013, 08:39: Yes and 10 for me. They should be 10 credits for everyone really
Title: Re: all vectors for 4 credits - for nonexclusivs
Post by: Noedelhap on April 23, 2013, 17:18: I don't get it. It used to be 6 for me, I think? Now it's 5 for a vector. Can anyone shed some light on what the prices were before? Can anyone post the newsletter they received?

If this is true, then to hell with them.
Title: Re: all vectors for 4 credits - for nonexclusivs
Post by: cthoman on April 23, 2013, 17:48: Quote from: Noedelhap on April 23, 2013, 17:18
I don't get it. It used to be 6 for me, I think? Now it's 5 for a vector. Can anyone shed some light on what the prices were before? Can anyone post the newsletter they received?

If this is true, then to hell with them.

They were all 8 credits back in the day when it was svg format, but I think if you reached a certain level you could double the price to 16. Then, they switched to eps files, and it was 4, 6, or 8 credits (depending on complexity). Although, things were rarely priced at 8. You could sneak svg files in the backdoor still and get them priced at 8. I assume they have closed this loophole with pricing everything at 5 credits now.
Title: Re: all vectors for 4 credits - for nonexclusivs
Post by: madsigncreator on August 09, 2013, 15:15: This topic needs some update... Did you fellow illustrators check your stats on FL last months? I've checked mine and I am not happy, but Fotolia is:

http://www.microstockgroup.com/illustration-general/fotolia-says-they-are-doing-fine-and-how-about-you-dear-contributors/ (http://www.microstockgroup.com/illustration-general/fotolia-says-they-are-doing-fine-and-how-about-you-dear-contributors/)

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