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hali

« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2008, 19:45 »
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wow Lizard, that's depressing to know .
still, I wonder too, who is to say someone did not take a slice of one of your photographs, or mine, or some other contributors, and make a vector , and then gets approved and made more money than the stolen section ever made.

Just a thought.


« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2008, 08:02 »
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You can't assume just because its Getty that they're always right.


I'm not assuming that "... just because it's Getty they're always right."

All I'm saying is that they're trying to take some action about it, however right or wrong that action is.

As an individual photographer, with limited means (and I guess that's like most of us on here), there's not an awful lot I can do if I find someone illegally using my images. I can ask them to stop, and that's about it. I don't have the resources to risk legal action and claims for copyright infringement ... especially if it's taking place in another country.

And the copyright infringers know this.

I'll lay money that this guy pops up somewhere else, doing the same thing. It's too easy to get away with it. What about that painter woman who won $4000 (and loads of kudos) for combining two photographs (apparently from Shutterstock) and claiming it as her own work.

What's needed if for some of these blatant thieves to get hammered, big time, to get the message across that it's unacceptable. The music industry is doing it, and the publishing industry will do it too. Why not the photographic industry?


Sorry I wasn't really disagreeing with you. The thing that bugs me is that it tends to be big companies that can enforce their copyright and often use a heavy handed approach while most of us can't really do much about it.

In instances where a contributor signs up, steals someone elses images and re-sells them, the issue goes well beyond copyright though - it amounts to online fraud. If there is a site that becomes aware of this, I personally hope that they'd report it to the police, and not just delete an account. This is criminal fraud and deserves to be treated as such.

hali

« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2008, 10:10 »
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first, I think this topic shows how useful this forum is to many of us contributors of stock images.
secondly, how effective it is depends really upon the sites that sell our images.
If they simply delete the offending thief, they really show that they do not really care about the victim, don't you think?
I would think again, if the site just shrugs it off, and let the thief go elsewhere to steal again, instead of reporting it to the authorities in his/her country.


« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2008, 16:45 »
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In instances where a contributor signs up, steals someone elses images and re-sells them, the issue goes well beyond copyright though - it amounts to online fraud. If there is a site that becomes aware of this, I personally hope that they'd report it to the police, and not just delete an account. This is criminal fraud and deserves to be treated as such.

I agree.  I have one image "stolen" from my website and used in another website.  I am considering what to do.  If I write them, they will probably simply delete the image - it is not that relevant for the site to make them purchase a legal copy.  And anyway, is this the way to do it?  If someone steals your car, and you pick him, and he returns the car to you and walks away, is this ok?

In this case, the site is here in Brazil, but I have another image, watermarked, used in a commercial UK site.  How do I report it to their police?

Regards,
Adelaide

« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2008, 17:11 »
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In this case, the site is here in Brazil, but I have another image, watermarked, used in a commercial UK site.  How do I report it to their police?


And another image stolen. Sympathies Adelaide.

But, unfortunately, I very much doubt if the UK police would do anything. They probably won't be the least bit interested.

We photographers should create some sort of union/fighting fund/whatever that would enable us to hammer a few of these thieves - hammer them as hard as the law allows.

« Reply #30 on: October 12, 2008, 18:22 »
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If any of you know lawyers who would be interested in representing us in many countries, as a network, that would be interesting.

BTW, DT replied in their forum that they go after infractors even if the image was not obtained from their site, as long as they also represent the image.  Of course, I believe that when it is clear that the infractor got it from them, and is using the image outside the license, they have a stronger motivation and justification.  Maybe behindthe scenes they exchange that information with other sites.  Although they're competition, they are interested in making their business respected.

Regards,
Adelaide

hali

« Reply #31 on: October 13, 2008, 13:20 »
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madelaide, i agree with you completely your last comment.
(Although they're competition, they are interested in making their business respected.)
Because once it becomes known to contributors that the stock site(s) do not care too much about charging the thief, many will stop uploading their images for fear of losing money. 
what is the point of uploading your hard work to a micro stock site only to have someone steal them and sell them on ebay?
may as well forget about micro stock. you still own your images, no sales,
but at least no one is selling your work and getting rich .


 

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