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Agency Based Discussion => Adobe Stock => Topic started by: Jo Ann Snover on July 28, 2023, 18:47

Title: Approved genAI image with two Getty photos on laptop screen!
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on July 28, 2023, 18:47
It is beyond belief that this image was recently approved - this content puts Adobe Stock and anyone licensing this image at risk. Getty is notoriously tough with misuse of its images.

I first noticed this item because of the comically gigantic laptop in front of the mannequin-like worker

(https://t4.ftcdn.net/jpg/06/26/54/75/240_F_626547509_WBsILfC73rPxGYVmhSmGAe8gKYYLrxjy.jpg) (https://stock.adobe.com/images/blog-news-hands-of-freelance-social-media-online-content-modern-job-application-online-job-content-creation-woman-using-laptop-reading-an-online-blog-on-a-company-office-computer/626547509)

Seeing photos on the huge screen - and, surprisingly for genAI, readable text - set off warning sirens in my brain (I've been editing stock images for way too long!)

A google search found the two articles and the image credits. Both are credited to Getty - senior couple (https://www.istockphoto.com/photo/retirement-fitness-and-walking-with-dog-and-couple-in-neighborhood-park-for-relax-gm1445417525-483832678) and laptop hands (https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/photo/man-working-online-at-home-on-his-laptop-computer-royalty-free-image/1460688109)

https://fortune.com/well/2023/07/23/how-to-stay-fit-as-you-age/ (https://fortune.com/well/2023/07/23/how-to-stay-fit-as-you-age/)
https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/22/tech/ai-jobs-efficiency-productivity/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/22/tech/ai-jobs-efficiency-productivity/index.html)

The contributor has several other laptop images with photos on the screen (https://stock.adobe.com/search?creator_id=211214115&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Aphoto%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Aillustration%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Azip_vector%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Avideo%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Atemplate%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3A3d%5D=1&filters%5Bfetch_excluded_assets%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Aimage%5D=1&order=relevance&safe_search=1&k=laptop+office+social+media&limit=100&search_page=1&search_type=usertyped&acp=&aco=laptop+office+social+media&get_facets=0), but they're harder to track down (so I didn't). I expect none of them are licensed.

If anyone who can post on the Discord thread about "oops" genAI images wants to post this - or a link to this thread - go ahead.

I realize it's a bit childish of me, but I am so angry to see any pretense at reviewing standards tossed aside in the frenzy of AI madness. I defy anyone to convince me that a non-AI image like this could ever get approved without property releases for the on-screen content. I've had to provide releases for use of my own images (on walls and screens) so many times...
Title: Re: Approved genAI image with two Getty photos on laptop screen!
Post by: synthetick on July 28, 2023, 19:11
Wow! I can post that one on the Adobe Stock Discord in Quality Control  :)

EDIT: I have done so.
Title: Re: Approved genAI image with two Getty photos on laptop screen!
Post by: PigsInSpace on July 28, 2023, 19:44
How is this comically oversized. I’m writing this on a 37” laptop as we speak.
Title: Re: Approved genAI image with two Getty photos on laptop screen!
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on July 28, 2023, 21:31
Wow! I can post that one on the Adobe Stock Discord in Quality Control  :)

EDIT: I have done so.

Thank you
Title: Re: Approved genAI image with two Getty photos on laptop screen!
Post by: Lina on July 29, 2023, 03:37
I realize it's a bit childish of me, but I am so angry to see any pretense at reviewing standards tossed aside in the frenzy of AI madness. I defy anyone to convince me that a non-AI image like this could ever get approved without property releases for the on-screen content. I've had to provide releases for use of my own images (on walls and screens) so many times...

Me too, I don't understand why rules suddenly don't apply for AI images.
Title: Re: Approved genAI image with two Getty photos on laptop screen!
Post by: cobalt on July 29, 2023, 05:40
That is really crazy.

And it should be obvious to an human inspector.

Maybe they are training a lot of new people? But then, is there no supervision?
Title: Re: Approved genAI image with two Getty photos on laptop screen!
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on July 29, 2023, 05:58
As I was falling asleep last night I realized how recent those two articles (in the laptop screen) were. I just checked the dates - July 22 and 23. Yesterday, July 28th, was when I saw the giant laptop image.

That image was less than a week in the queue.

Haven’t those of you uploading been waiting 3-4 weeks?

If I was looking for evidence of a two-tier system, this would be very convincing…
Title: Re: Approved genAI image with two Getty photos on laptop screen!
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on July 29, 2023, 06:01
And I forgot to mention that the CNN logo should not have been allowed either
Title: Re: Approved genAI image with two Getty photos on laptop screen!
Post by: Digital on July 29, 2023, 07:39
At least her fingers look normal...
Title: Re: Approved genAI image with two Getty photos on laptop screen!
Post by: cobalt on July 29, 2023, 10:09
If those are indeed recent news articles - how did they get into the ai database for training? I thought the ais use content that is at least a year old?

Or can they now read live online content and integrate that?
Title: Re: Approved genAI image with two Getty photos on laptop screen!
Post by: amabu on July 29, 2023, 12:03

(https://t4.ftcdn.net/jpg/06/26/54/75/240_F_626547509_WBsILfC73rPxGYVmhSmGAe8gKYYLrxjy.jpg) (https://stock.adobe.com/images/blog-news-hands-of-freelance-social-media-online-content-modern-job-application-online-job-content-creation-woman-using-laptop-reading-an-online-blog-on-a-company-office-computer/626547509)

Seeing photos on the huge screen - and, surprisingly for genAI, readable text -

The screen display is clearly NOT AI generated.
Title: Re: Approved genAI image with two Getty photos on laptop screen!
Post by: ole999 on July 29, 2023, 13:49
I expect Mat Hayward to come up with an answer.
Title: Re: Approved genAI image with two Getty photos on laptop screen!
Post by: ole999 on July 29, 2023, 14:10
I agree with Ann - but the persons port is amazing. Seems that it's the end of photography. But the again - to create AI-images you have to have real photographs to use as modelling ...?
Title: Re: Approved genAI image with two Getty photos on laptop screen!
Post by: synthetick on July 29, 2023, 18:57
That image was less than a week in the queue.

Haven’t those of you uploading been waiting 3-4 weeks?

That will be because AI can now be submitted as Photos so long as it looks like it could have been taken by a camera, and people are reporting 1 week review times in the Photos queue.
Title: Re: Approved genAI image with two Getty photos on laptop screen!
Post by: flywing on July 30, 2023, 03:17
That will be because AI can now be submitted as Photos so long as it looks like it could have been taken by a camera, and people are reporting 1 week review times in the Photos queue.

My non-AI photos take nearly 4 weeks before getting accepted. Oddly, images that don't pass their QC are rejected within about a week. It's been like this for a while now.

From what I read, AI images take much less review time and QC is virtually non-existent.
Title: Re: Approved genAI image with two Getty photos on laptop screen!
Post by: Her Ugliness on July 30, 2023, 07:38


My non-AI photos take nearly 4 weeks before getting accepted. Oddly, images that don't pass their QC are rejected within about a week. It's been like this for a while now.

From what I read, AI images take much less review time and QC is virtually non-existent.

Where did you read that? My AI images are waiting to be reviewed since forever. I do not even know how many weeks, because after 4 weeks in the review queue it only says they wre submitted  "last month". Ai images submitted as photos (in opposite to  illustrations, which was a requirement until like a week ago) seem to be reviewed faster for now, but I am sure now that everyone started submitting Ai images as photos instead of illustrations the review time will only get longer and longer till they will also have a review time of several weeks.

My real photos get reviewed in less than a week. Maybe 4-5 days.
Title: Re: Approved genAI image with two Getty photos on laptop screen!
Post by: Justanotherphotographer on July 30, 2023, 08:05
Oh man, how huge that laptop is compared to that woman is hilarious.
Title: Re: Approved genAI image with two Getty photos on laptop screen!
Post by: SuperPhoto on July 30, 2023, 10:27
Interesting, It looks like a composite (i.e., guy did a screen grab & "pasted" it on the laptop).

I'd say it was an error (on the review) - they wouldn't be expecting people to create 'composite' images like that...
Title: Re: Approved genAI image with two Getty photos on laptop screen!
Post by: gnirtS on July 30, 2023, 23:27
At least her fingers look normal...

Am i the only one bothered by the shiny, plastic face ?  Looks like a tailors dummy.

Or v1.0 Westworld.
Title: Re: Approved genAI image with two Getty photos on laptop screen!
Post by: Digital on July 31, 2023, 02:04
At least her fingers look normal...

Am i the only one bothered by the shiny, plastic face ?  Looks like a tailors dummy.

Or v1.0 Westworld.

This reminds me of a 3D rendering from 2008, done in Maya and Mental Ray. Fake looking skin and oversized hands... not much has changed in 15 years.
Title: Re: Approved genAI image with two Getty photos on laptop screen!
Post by: AdrianGrosu on July 31, 2023, 04:04

(https://t4.ftcdn.net/jpg/06/26/54/75/240_F_626547509_WBsILfC73rPxGYVmhSmGAe8gKYYLrxjy.jpg) (https://stock.adobe.com/images/blog-news-hands-of-freelance-social-media-online-content-modern-job-application-online-job-content-creation-woman-using-laptop-reading-an-online-blog-on-a-company-office-computer/626547509)

Seeing photos on the huge screen - and, surprisingly for genAI, readable text -

The screen display is clearly NOT AI generated.

Agree. Is a print screen pasted there, so the author knew what he/she was doing.
Title: Re: Approved genAI image with two Getty photos on laptop screen!
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on July 31, 2023, 13:00
The image has been taken down now.