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« on: August 01, 2022, 15:14 »
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Typically I take rejections and move on.  My acceptance rate is 95-100% with different agencies.  My acceptance rate from AS was closer to 100% than 95%.  Suddenly, out of the blue I am receiving rejections of images that are accepted EVERYWHERE else.  Bogus mark of technical issues.  Focus at 100% (even at 200%!) and exposure etc are perfect.  Same studio.  Not like suddenly all is changed. No noise.  Shot at 100 ISO on tripod.   

So we all know AS rejection categories are not that specific. 
Not similar subjects.  Not subjects that have tons of images already there but not niche area either.
Not even that not of commercial value.  Of course the images DO sell with other agencies.

Beyond frustrating.  Yes move on, wait til the new reviewer(s) move on. 

It seems like there is a reviewer or three that move between agencies that just reject things because.  A year or so it was SS and then stops just as suddenly.  Just frustrating.



« Last Edit: August 01, 2022, 15:20 by Hildegarde »


« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2022, 15:55 »
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I notice more rejections with Adobe too.

« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2022, 17:44 »
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i get rejections too but i dont let these annoy me anymore specailly for the amound of money we are paid for our photos
its not like after all you are a photographer for vogue magazine and you earn 1000 dollars lol
anyhow 2 cases
they use an AI like shutterstock and ai in the end of the day is just a dumb machine that sees technical problems in an image everywhere
second .. the reviewers are also contributors and when they review fantastic images they dont wanna compete with the fellow artists, so they press the reject button
even dt with a very good acceptance lately rejecting some of my images but like i said i dont care anymore

« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2022, 18:53 »
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I have around 15 rejections  ,,Quality Issues,,  last month. Never have so many in one months.
It was accepted everywhere from Alamy to SStock and some is already sold.

« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2022, 07:59 »
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One wonders if the vague category technical issues encourages bogus reviews... not like reviewer has to actually identify why/show knowledge of technical standards.

AI might be better except that/if it does not take into account what is main subject if not in typical place (like ones with copy space to left or right when blurring background with open aperature is nice).

It is just annoying to waste time uploading images -- esp when paid so little -- when an agency goes through these cycles.

Something is not right when one has very high acceptance rate and then suddenly a batch or two are mostly rejected esp if studio conditions same (but NOT similar subjects).

« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2022, 09:20 »
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We have become used to Shuttersock being weird about focus and noise, Is being weird about model releases for spiders etc. Most agencies have their review attention to technical or legal issues. Adobe may as well evaluate if an asset has any market interest at all. Being a niche photographer that can become annoying. But somehow I am happy that AS does not accept a zillion images of "nothing" into their collection.

« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2022, 09:36 »
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I don't post very much but just had 4 out of 4 rejected for "quality issues". That's a first, for me, as my acceptance rate is well over 90%. Frustrating to say the least.
 

« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2022, 09:51 »
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Agree, too many rejections at Adobe lately. It happens with every agency once in a while.

Well, there's a simple thing to do: stop uploading for a couple of months and wait for things to return to normal. This is what I always do.

« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2022, 09:59 »
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Agree, too many rejections at Adobe lately. It happens with every agency once in a while.

Well, there's a simple thing to do: stop uploading for a couple of months and wait for things to return to normal. This is what I always do.

Yep.

« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2022, 11:23 »
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AS the new SS


« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2022, 21:59 »
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I am also seeing some weird rejections with reason.

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Your file has one or more of these issues:

    Your vector file contains a raster/bitmap image, and vector files must not contain raster elements.
    Your JPEG preview file has been compressed too much, so textural problems have occurred in the file.
    Your JPEG preview resolution must not be less than 5,000 X 3,000 (15 million pixels)
    You didn't use anti-aliasing when exporting your vector file to JPEG, so there are problems with lines on the JPEG file.

Although, all my files are accurate and have been approved by other agencies.

« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2022, 00:53 »
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The acceptance rate is generally very high at Adobe Stock.

True. My acceptance used to be over 95% until a few months ago.

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This thread would be much more helpful for analysis if some or all of you were willing to share examples of the rejected content.

Sorry, but some of us (including me) may wish to stay anonymous here, for a series of reasons not related to this particular thread.

Please show us Adobe's all-time average approval/rejection rates compared to year 2022 instead. We are wondering whether it's a deliberate change or a few rogue reviewers or so-called AI.

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Generally, the moderation team is looking for a reason to approve content.
In my experience, if a file is refused, there is almost always a good reason.

Not when the rejection rate changes suddenly from 5% to over 50%. It may be good but it's not a reason, I'd call it a change of policy on your part.

If you decided to refuse a lot of pictures because you already have too many, fine, but please just say "low commercial value" instead of stating some generic "quality issues" that leave me wondering whether I became totally dumb overnight.

« Last Edit: August 04, 2022, 01:15 by somewhere »

« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2022, 12:35 »
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Ha not only have they leased Shutterstocks image analysis A.I. they've leased their response flow chart.

1. Post some images here (at lower resolution as that what it accepts) and the community can pull your arms and legs off for us.
2. The reviewing team are almost always right (almost always is one of those made up on the spot statistics). How could you possibly know unless everyone who's images are rejected is checked. Most bail and don't bother challenging. You have no idea of the correct percentage of correctly rejected images.
3. I'll look into that ...
4. I'll look into that ...
5. I'll look into that ...
6. Rebooting .... end run return to 1 ...

I haven't searched for previous threads for the generic response runaround but I know it has a better chance at being accurate than your statement lol.

« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2022, 16:22 »
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The acceptance rate is generally very high at Adobe Stock.

True. My acceptance used to be over 95% until a few months ago.

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This thread would be much more helpful for analysis if some or all of you were willing to share examples of the rejected content.

Sorry, but some of us (including me) may wish to stay anonymous here, for a series of reasons not related to this particular thread.

Please show us Adobe's all-time average approval/rejection rates compared to year 2022 instead. We are wondering whether it's a deliberate change or a few rogue reviewers or so-called AI.

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Generally, the moderation team is looking for a reason to approve content.
In my experience, if a file is refused, there is almost always a good reason.

Not when the rejection rate changes suddenly from 5% to over 50%. It may be good but it's not a reason, I'd call it a change of policy on your part.

If you decided to refuse a lot of pictures because you already have too many, fine, but please just say "low commercial value" instead of stating some generic "quality issues" that leave me wondering whether I became totally dumb overnight.

Fair enough, please email me directly with your Adobe ID and a list of files you are referring to here and I will give you an honest critique. My email address is [email protected].

Thank you,

Mat Hayward

« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2022, 05:36 »
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My acceptance rate has been 95-100% for many years, now this week 80% is rejected for 'quality problems'.

This is not a 'quality' issue.

« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2022, 06:58 »
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I also uploaded some "watercolor paintings" done in photoshop using some old photos of mine and the images were rejected - "PROPERTY RELEASE MISSING" ??!?.....

 ???

« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2022, 12:23 »
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I also uploaded some "watercolor paintings" done in photoshop using some old photos of mine and the images were rejected - "PROPERTY RELEASE MISSING" ??!?.....

 ???

Unfortunately, I've not seen the files in question emailed, so it is very difficult to analyze what, if any issue there is. I am not aware of any signficant changes to moderation standards recently.

Regarding the property release requirement, this is fairly standard when submitting images of artwork, regardless of the platform used to create it. The property release requirement is in place to make sure that contributors are not simply taking photos or scanning works of art created by others and selling it as their own. For example, if you were to take a photo of a watercolor painting hanging on a wall in a coffee shop, you could not submit this as your own stock asset.

Since these submissions you have written about are watercolor paintings you personally created, @Sebastian then all you need to do is submit a release where you sign as both the property owner, and the contributor. That should solve the issue assuming the submissions meet our quality and technical requirements.

Kind regards,

Mat Hayward

« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2022, 12:32 »
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My acceptance rate has been 95-100% for many years, now this week 80% is rejected for 'quality problems'.

This is not a 'quality' issue.

Yup. Same Same.

AS the new SS.


« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2022, 14:04 »
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I also experience a much higher rejection rate and for 'technical issues' . It started about a month and a half ago.  Before that, rejections received were tipicaly more explicit and in most cases I agreed with the review. I hope its not a layer of AI that was added and that systematically rejects images with the focus off the center, like they seem to use at SS.

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2022, 14:09 »
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I also experience a much higher rejection rate and for 'technical issues' . It started about a month and a half ago.  Before that, rejections received were tipicaly more explicit and in most cases I agreed with the review. I hope its not a layer of AI that was added and that systematically rejects images with the focus off the center, like they seem to use at SS.

Only Mat knows for sure but let me say, when I upload four images and one gets rejected in an hour and the other three takes a few days to get reviewed, I'd suspect you have made a good assumption, that some know of pre-review or AI is looking at our images.

Just for the sake of accuracy, the rejection reason that seems to be a catch all and becoming more and more common, is:

Quality Issues

Thanks for giving us the chance to consider your image. Unfortunately, this image doesn't meet our quality standards so we cant accept it into our collection.

And in my opinion, that is one the vaguest rejections anyone could come up with. Quality Standards? What is the reason, it's not some kind of guessing game is it? Something helpful would be, WHY

Common issues that can impact the technical quality of images include exposure issues, soft focus, excessive filtering or artifacts/noise. Learn more about our technical requirements Which one?

So I follow the link and learn:


Image Quality

If we determine your file to have technical issues other than focus, exposure, or artifacts, which we call out specifically or if the file is determined to not meet our overall quality standards the "Image Quality" rejection reason is selected by moderation. 
Photography and video technical issues include but arent limited to (I added that underline)

White balance: The white balance may be too warm or too cool.

Note:

When you shoot in raw formats, you have great flexibility to adjust the white balance in your post-processing workflows.

Contrast: There may be too much or not enough contrast.

Saturation: Oversaturation may give your file an unnatural look, but under-saturated or spot color can also result in technical decline.

Note:

You may want to try the Vibrance slider instead of Saturation in Lightroom.

Selections: Editing must be done inconspicuously. Selecting objects out of their backgrounds (or masking) to composite into new images requires time, patience, and care. Do not submit images that have been poorly selected or look like they are not a natural part of the scene.

Chromatic aberration: Refers to color fringing around objects in the image.

General composition: Is your horizon straight? Have you cropped the image too much? Consider leaving a designer room to add their own text or objects.



So the rejection is for any of those and either or on most of them. Thanks a bunch for the helpful rejection so I won't continue to send in images that will fail, which wastes your review resources and my time as well.

Hey Adobe, throw me a bone or can I buy a clue?  ;)


« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2022, 04:48 »
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A year or so it was SS and then stops just as suddenly.  Just frustrating.
SS stopped rejections? Not with me. They reject more and more, all my editorial photos and videos.
And if something others isn't rejected, it takes about 3 days for it to be accepted. Before 2021 it took 5 minutes.

« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2022, 04:52 »
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Be glad that AS only rejects your media.
AS deleted my portfolio after 3 years for no apparent reason and they do not respond to my email questions.
THAT is annoying.

« Reply #23 on: August 09, 2022, 07:39 »
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I had two accepted no probs, then the following six (as I don't upload all at once,) all rejected, same shoot and at least in a few instances, better quality. Rejected for technical issues. Might put them up again to test with hopefully a different reviewer.

ETA videos are being accepted with almost no rejections for mine.
« Last Edit: August 09, 2022, 07:43 by Pacesetter »

« Reply #24 on: August 09, 2022, 17:47 »
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I came searching for "rejections from AS"  because some photos I submitted at the beginning of August had rejections for Quality Issues.  It seemed odd to me that the rejections were a wide range of subjects, dates taken and different camera/lens combinations. They were photos from shoots of recently approved similar photos, studio lighting, outdoors, and some isolated on white. No other rejection reason.  It stood out enough for me to go looking in the forums for answers. Typically I also have a high acceptance rate.


 

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