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« on: October 05, 2023, 13:09 »
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I thought I read somewhere that content generated with Firefly couldn't be sold on other stock sites than on Adobe Stock. I just can't find where I read that or if I got it wrong. This FAQ doesn't provide the answer:

https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/firefly-faq-for-adobe-stock-contributors.html#:~:text=Firefly%2Dgenerated%20assets%20from%20the,features%20may%20be%20used%20commercially.

Does anyone know if this is allowed or not according to Adobe?


« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2023, 15:40 »
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Once Firefly was out of beta, it was available for commercial use - also the generative fill in Photoshop 25

However, most stock agencies do not accept AI generated content, and the content credentials in your Firefly/generative fill from Photoshop will show that AI was used.

Dreamstime, Deposit Photos and I think 123rf accept gen AI content, but not Getty/iStock, Shutterstock or Alamy

« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2023, 15:53 »
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Thank you for your response. I think I understand why I thought it might not be allowed again. The terms state the following: 'When using our generative AI features, you agree you will use them only for your creative work product and not to train AI/ML models.

This means you must not, and must not allow third parties to, use any content, data, output or other information received or derived from any generative AI features, including any Firefly outputs, to directly or indirectly create, train, test, or otherwise improve any machine learning algorithms or artificial intelligence systems, including any architectures, models, or weights
.'

Now, suppose I upload Firefly content to Depositphotos, and after a while, they also develop their own generator that they train with content uploaded by contributors (similar to what Adobe has done). In that case, those images would be used to train AI. However, this immediately becomes a significant limitation on the commercial use allowed for Firefly content. After all, Midjourney scrapes everything from the internet, so over time, there will also be Firefly content in their database

« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2023, 18:26 »
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Hello Jo Ann,

Dreamstime, Deposit Photos and I think 123rf accept gen AI content, but not Getty/iStock, Shutterstock or...
Are you sure about Deposit Photos accepting AI content?
Its about 2 month ago, but then my uploaded AI content was rejected with the reason "We do not accept AI-generated files due to potential copyright issues."

Have a nice day@all

« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2023, 09:43 »
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@Jo Ann, DepositPhoto don't accept AI content. Initially they did accept it, but then it was all removed.

« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2023, 12:16 »
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Although I really appreciate everyone who is contributing to this discussion, whether or not Deposit accepts AI or not is not really the point of this topic  ;)

« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2023, 05:34 »
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Once Firefly was out of beta, it was available for commercial use - also the generative fill in Photoshop 25

However, most stock agencies do not accept AI generated content, and the content credentials in your Firefly/generative fill from Photoshop will show that AI was used.

Dreamstime, Deposit Photos and I think 123rf accept gen AI content, but not Getty/iStock, Shutterstock or Alamy

and this says it all about what the real intentions of SS and Getty/Istock are.

Agencies that do not accept AI generated content,they do not particularly care about continuing a collaboration with contributors in the future.

« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2023, 15:07 »
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I wouldnt say that.

Photoshop is the industry standard, they cannot force their producers  to stick to old software forever.

ai tools are the future, including full ai generation.

My idea is they are all still negotiating with Adobe and testing a workflow with some integrated ai metadata to always automatically detect ai use.


 

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