Quote from: Noedelhap on April 02, 2023, 10:38

Quote from: Zero Talent on March 30, 2023, 01:04
The real problem was that FT and AS were screwing US contributors by selling in euros in Europe and paying us in dollars.

On the other hand, you had very good ride when when you were overpaid for your US sales. All that artificial bonus you got throughout the years must compensate at least a part of your new conversion fees.
Be fair and admit it.

Anyway, PayPal fees, bank fees, local taxes are not Adobe's concern.

Now everybody is paid the same. That's what matters.

Fair enough.
Everybody gets paid the same, yet now Adobe pockets the surplus from €-sales. So instead of fighting amongst ourselves over the amount of crumbs we receive, we should stand together and acknowledge that Adobe simply increased their bottom line at the expense of contributors.
If it's fairness we're talking about, their credit system (1 credit = 1 USD = 1 EUR) should reflect actual market rates.

Agree.

However I am not sure if the price gap between the same product sold in euros and dollars is the same as it was when the 1€ = 1$ credit system was used.

Based on what I understand from this thread, the same package costs €39.95 vs $49.95.
For the extended licenses the prices are €63.99 vs $79.99.
Both are  ~15% more expensive in dollars at the current exchange rate...

Isn't AS doing us all a favor now by paying in dollars, when the same product was sold for less in euros?

Got my first payment since the currency change. Lost 11,58% of my income. Thanks for nothing, Adobe.

Quote from: Her Ugliness on April 06, 2023, 10:09
Got my first payment since the currency chnage. Lost 11,58% of my income. Thanks for nothing, Adobe.

They need extra money to feed the deep AI mouth... and build our (no?) future...

Quote from: DiscreetDuck on April 06, 2023, 12:25

Quote from: Her Ugliness on April 06, 2023, 10:09
Got my first payment since the currency chnage. Lost 11,58% of my income. Thanks for nothing, Adobe.

They need extra money to feed the deep AI mouth... and build our (no?) future...

Nha, they need extra money to make some CEOs, managers and shareholders even richer. Maximizing profit is really all companies care about. That's what capitalism is about. And that's not even what I am holding against them. After all I am looking to maximize my profit as well (with the only difference that I am not already a millionaire) Just wish they'd find other ways to do this than by taking it away from the very people their business was build on.

Quote from: Her Ugliness on April 06, 2023, 12:38

Quote from: DiscreetDuck on April 06, 2023, 12:25

Quote from: Her Ugliness on April 06, 2023, 10:09
Got my first payment since the currency chnage. Lost 11,58% of my income. Thanks for nothing, Adobe.

They need extra money to feed the deep AI mouth... and build our (no?) future...

Nha, they need extra money to make some CEOs, managers and shareholders even richer. Maximizing profit is really all companies care about. That's what capitalism is about. And that's not even what I am holding against them. After all I am looking to maximize my profit as well (with the only difference that I am not already a millionaire) Just wish they'd find other ways to do this than by taking it away from the very people their business was build on.

the only thing we can do to save some money is not to buy adobe product....

Quote from: Visualab on April 06, 2023, 21:18

Quote from: Her Ugliness on April 06, 2023, 12:38

Quote from: DiscreetDuck on April 06, 2023, 12:25

Quote from: Her Ugliness on April 06, 2023, 10:09
Got my first payment since the currency chnage. Lost 11,58% of my income. Thanks for nothing, Adobe.

They need extra money to feed the deep AI mouth... and build our (no?) future...

Nha, they need extra money to make some CEOs, managers and shareholders even richer. Maximizing profit is really all companies care about. That's what capitalism is about. And that's not even what I am holding against them. After all I am looking to maximize my profit as well (with the only difference that I am not already a millionaire) Just wish they'd find other ways to do this than by taking it away from the very people their business was build on.

the only thing we can do to save some money is not to buy adobe product....

No need since Adobe is giving their products for free to worthy contributors

Quote from: Zero Talent on April 06, 2023, 21:54

Quote from: Visualab on April 06, 2023, 21:18

Quote from: Her Ugliness on April 06, 2023, 12:38

Quote from: DiscreetDuck on April 06, 2023, 12:25

Quote from: Her Ugliness on April 06, 2023, 10:09
Got my first payment since the currency chnage. Lost 11,58% of my income. Thanks for nothing, Adobe.

They need extra money to feed the deep AI mouth... and build our (no?) future...

Nha, they need extra money to make some CEOs, managers and shareholders even richer. Maximizing profit is really all companies care about. That's what capitalism is about. And that's not even what I am holding against them. After all I am looking to maximize my profit as well (with the only difference that I am not already a millionaire) Just wish they'd find other ways to do this than by taking it away from the very people their business was build on.

the only thing we can do to save some money is not to buy adobe product....

No need since Adobe is giving their products for free to worthy contributors

most of us have only 1 app for free...for the missing apps there are other solutions...

Quote from: Visualab on April 07, 2023, 10:08

Quote from: Zero Talent on April 06, 2023, 21:54

Quote from: Visualab on April 06, 2023, 21:18

Quote from: Her Ugliness on April 06, 2023, 12:38

Quote from: DiscreetDuck on April 06, 2023, 12:25

Quote from: Her Ugliness on April 06, 2023, 10:09
Got my first payment since the currency chnage. Lost 11,58% of my income. Thanks for nothing, Adobe.

They need extra money to feed the deep AI mouth... and build our (no?) future...

Nha, they need extra money to make some CEOs, managers and shareholders even richer. Maximizing profit is really all companies care about. That's what capitalism is about. And that's not even what I am holding against them. After all I am looking to maximize my profit as well (with the only difference that I am not already a millionaire) Just wish they'd find other ways to do this than by taking it away from the very people their business was build on.

the only thing we can do to save some money is not to buy adobe product....

No need since Adobe is giving their products for free to worthy contributors

most of us have only 1 app for free...for the missing apps there are other solutions...

I guess you have 2: LR and PS, right?

Quote from: Zero Talent on April 07, 2023, 21:51

Quote from: Visualab on April 07, 2023, 10:08

Quote from: Zero Talent on April 06, 2023, 21:54

Quote from: Visualab on April 06, 2023, 21:18

Quote from: Her Ugliness on April 06, 2023, 12:38

Quote from: DiscreetDuck on April 06, 2023, 12:25

Quote from: Her Ugliness on April 06, 2023, 10:09
Got my first payment since the currency chnage. Lost 11,58% of my income. Thanks for nothing, Adobe.

They need extra money to feed the deep AI mouth... and build our (no?) future...

Nha, they need extra money to make some CEOs, managers and shareholders even richer. Maximizing profit is really all companies care about. That's what capitalism is about. And that's not even what I am holding against them. After all I am looking to maximize my profit as well (with the only difference that I am not already a millionaire) Just wish they'd find other ways to do this than by taking it away from the very people their business was build on.

the only thing we can do to save some money is not to buy adobe product....

No need since Adobe is giving their products for free to worthy contributors

most of us have only 1 app for free...for the missing apps there are other solutions...

I guess you have 2: LR and PS, right?

quote... quote... quote... quote...
nothing more, I only wanted to quote...
Does somebody want to quote after ?

Quote from: Zero Talent on April 07, 2023, 21:51

Quote from: Visualab on April 07, 2023, 10:08

Quote from: Zero Talent on April 06, 2023, 21:54

Quote from: Visualab on April 06, 2023, 21:18

Quote from: Her Ugliness on April 06, 2023, 12:38

Quote from: DiscreetDuck on April 06, 2023, 12:25

Quote from: Her Ugliness on April 06, 2023, 10:09
Got my first payment since the currency chnage. Lost 11,58% of my income. Thanks for nothing, Adobe.

They need extra money to feed the deep AI mouth... and build our (no?) future...

Nha, they need extra money to make some CEOs, managers and shareholders even richer. Maximizing profit is really all companies care about. That's what capitalism is about. And that's not even what I am holding against them. After all I am looking to maximize my profit as well (with the only difference that I am not already a millionaire) Just wish they'd find other ways to do this than by taking it away from the very people their business was build on.

the only thing we can do to save some money is not to buy adobe product....

No need since Adobe is giving their products for free to worthy contributors

most of us have only 1 app for free...for the missing apps there are other solutions...

I guess you have 2: LR and PS, right?

no,i do only video,so i got AE...but you miss the point...i could afford all the apps with no problem but if they  want to maximaze their profit on my shoulder i'll do the same...this is business...

Quote from: DiscreetDuck on April 07, 2023, 22:44

Quote from: Zero Talent on April 07, 2023, 21:51

Quote from: Visualab on April 07, 2023, 10:08

Quote from: Zero Talent on April 06, 2023, 21:54

Quote from: Visualab on April 06, 2023, 21:18

Quote from: Her Ugliness on April 06, 2023, 12:38

Quote from: DiscreetDuck on April 06, 2023, 12:25

Quote from: Her Ugliness on April 06, 2023, 10:09
Got my first payment since the currency chnage. Lost 11,58% of my income. Thanks for nothing, Adobe.

They need extra money to feed the deep AI mouth... and build our (no?) future...

Nha, they need extra money to make some CEOs, managers and shareholders even richer. Maximizing profit is really all companies care about. That's what capitalism is about. And that's not even what I am holding against them. After all I am looking to maximize my profit as well (with the only difference that I am not already a millionaire) Just wish they'd find other ways to do this than by taking it away from the very people their business was build on.

the only thing we can do to save some money is not to buy adobe product....

No need since Adobe is giving their products for free to worthy contributors

most of us have only 1 app for free...for the missing apps there are other solutions...

I guess you have 2: LR and PS, right?

quote... quote... quote... quote...
nothing more, I only wanted to quote...
Does somebody want to quote after ?

[emoji16] It wouldn't help.

Quote from: Visualab on April 08, 2023, 00:01

Quote from: Zero Talent on April 07, 2023, 21:51

Quote from: Visualab on April 07, 2023, 10:08

Quote from: Zero Talent on April 06, 2023, 21:54

Quote from: Visualab on April 06, 2023, 21:18

Quote from: Her Ugliness on April 06, 2023, 12:38

Quote from: DiscreetDuck on April 06, 2023, 12:25

Quote from: Her Ugliness on April 06, 2023, 10:09
Got my first payment since the currency chnage. Lost 11,58% of my income. Thanks for nothing, Adobe.

They need extra money to feed the deep AI mouth... and build our (no?) future...

Nha, they need extra money to make some CEOs, managers and shareholders even richer. Maximizing profit is really all companies care about. That's what capitalism is about. And that's not even what I am holding against them. After all I am looking to maximize my profit as well (with the only difference that I am not already a millionaire) Just wish they'd find other ways to do this than by taking it away from the very people their business was build on.

the only thing we can do to save some money is not to buy adobe product....

No need since Adobe is giving their products for free to worthy contributors

most of us have only 1 app for free...for the missing apps there are other solutions...

I guess you have 2: LR and PS, right?

no,i do only video,so i got AE...but you miss the point...i could afford all the apps with no problem but if they  want to maximaze their profit on my shoulder i'll do the same...this is business...

Ahh, ok. Nevertheless, I'm sure that "most of us" are getting LR and PS for free, while some of us are getting all apps for free.

In my opinion, if you really want to maximize your profits in relation to Adobe, you could switch to Davinci Resolve, and maybe get LR and PS for free, instead of AE.

The blue bar came very late this time.

I can't help thinking that the change in currency is in exchange for giving apps away, after a long negotiation between teams.

Quote from: flywing on April 08, 2023, 05:43
The blue bar came very late this time.

I can't help thinking that the change in currency is in exchange for giving apps away, after a long negotiation between teams.

I don't think that's related. The 'free' apps are being paid for by the sales (or boost thereof) of qualifying contributors and the incentive to keep uploading to reach the targets.