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bpawesome

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« on: January 30, 2024, 06:54 »
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So this is new to me, countering the $1.47?



« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2024, 07:43 »
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I just had one for 33 cents.

Probably a special deal.

I hope it is not a new licensing plan with much lower royalties.

« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2024, 08:01 »
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So this is new to me, countering the $1.47?



Did you have some fr $1,47 today?

The last time I got them for $1.47 was on January 19.
On January 20 it was $1.48, then 1.44 and 1.43, then 1.30, then 1.25 and yesterday and today they are all for $1.13.

bpawesome

  • 3D artist & Full Stack Developer

« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2024, 08:58 »
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Did you have some fr $1,47 today?

The last time I got them for $1.47 was on January 19.
On January 20 it was $1.48, then 1.44 and 1.43, then 1.30, then 1.25 and yesterday and today they are all for $1.13.

I don't know where those amounts come from, it's not a single amount that is changing, I did get a $1.47 few days ago, and I see $1.13, $1.02, $1.19 etc.. all the time, different variations for custom license, maybe it's country specific price or something else,
I'm sure adobe made changes and still haven't updated the contributors (like with firefly bonus)

but never seen going as low as $0.30

« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2024, 09:34 »
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1.47 - not today, but I get them.

Hm, spring is the season for exciting news with agencies. I hope Adobe stays stable.

« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2024, 09:45 »
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The fluctuation in custom license was visible also last months of 2023
It seems that in december it was down to 0,96, 0,95...
And at the beginning of 2024 there was somthing like a "reset", custom licenses started from 1,47 than the price went quickly down, now is 1,13.
I thougth that it was linked to eur/us$ change, but it's not

« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2024, 14:02 »
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I'm receiving 35 custom video sales.  I would like to opt out of those. 


« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2024, 18:34 »
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Same here, no longer get anything more than $1.01 My last $1.42 was on 1/14/2024
Now overwhelming majority are 0.32 cents. My downloads are growing, but % of $ that I get are getting lower and lower.

Plus my bestseller sales disappeared in January.

Mat, I will sent you email with my files as well. Thank you in advance for your time.
« Last Edit: February 13, 2024, 18:49 by Mifornia »

« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2024, 19:42 »
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Same here, no longer get anything more than $1.01 My last $1.42 was on 1/14/2024
Now overwhelming majority are 0.32 cents. My downloads are growing, but % of $ that I get are getting lower and lower.

Plus my bestseller sales disappeared in January.

Mat, I will sent you email with my files as well. Thank you in advance for your time.

Nothing appears out of the ordinary there @Mifornia. No need to send me an email. The royalty rate remains at 33% of the price paid by the customer. The rate paid by the customer varies based on the plan. The Pro plans have rates that fluctuate daily based on the usage of all subscribers.

Thanks,

Mat

« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2024, 07:25 »
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Same here, no longer get anything more than $1.01 My last $1.42 was on 1/14/2024
Now overwhelming majority are 0.32 cents. My downloads are growing, but % of $ that I get are getting lower and lower.

Plus my bestseller sales disappeared in January.

Mat, I will sent you email with my files as well. Thank you in advance for your time.

We get 200% more on Adobe Stock than Shutterstock at lowest payment.  Look at the bright side!!!

« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2024, 18:22 »
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Hi Matt -

Would you please discuss perhaps some kind of contributor pool for the new '4k subscriptions', to balance payouts? Basically - now contributors (estimated) get on average get about 1/5th to 1/10th of the sale - since the 'purchase' now becomes a 'subscription' purchase.

Basically - splitting any unused 'subscriptions' between contributors & adobe @ the 67/33% split?

So if a customer (using this #'s for simplicity) gets a $100 subscription that say had 10 credits, and only uses 1 credit - and say had 9 unused credits - of which the contributor would get $3 (and adobe $6.7 + the remaining $90 balance for a total of $97) - could you please discuss instead sharing unused credits from subscriptions with contributors at the same 33%-67% split? (So instead of $3/$97 = 3% to contributor + 97% to adobe, it would be 33% to contributor + 67% to adobe)?

Thanks!
« Last Edit: February 14, 2024, 18:27 by SuperPhoto »

« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2024, 02:42 »
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Same here, no longer get anything more than $1.01 My last $1.42 was on 1/14/2024
Now overwhelming majority are 0.32 cents. My downloads are growing, but % of $ that I get are getting lower and lower.

Plus my bestseller sales disappeared in January.

Mat, I will sent you email with my files as well. Thank you in advance for your time.

We get 200% more on Adobe Stock than Shutterstock at lowest payment.  Look at the bright side!!!
Thats crazy I only contribute to Adobe. Why do people bother contributing to other stock agencies if they pay so little? Is it a habit?

bpawesome

  • 3D artist & Full Stack Developer

« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2024, 06:22 »
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Thats crazy I only contribute to Adobe. Why do people bother contributing to other stock agencies if they pay so little? Is it a habit?

You really should look in to it more, you won't get Adobe earnings on others, but you will earn more on 10 stock sites than on 1 (at least x3 times total), and you already have the images...

« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2024, 06:48 »
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Same here, no longer get anything more than $1.01 My last $1.42 was on 1/14/2024
Now overwhelming majority are 0.32 cents. My downloads are growing, but % of $ that I get are getting lower and lower.

Plus my bestseller sales disappeared in January.

Mat, I will sent you email with my files as well. Thank you in advance for your time.

We get 200% more on Adobe Stock than Shutterstock at lowest payment.  Look at the bright side!!!
Thats crazy I only contribute to Adobe. Why do people bother contributing to other stock agencies if they pay so little? Is it a habit?
Microstock is a rollercoaster. At the moment Adobe Stock is doing better.
Because of AI i guess my real images outs of DSLR will get hard competition in next years at Adobe Stock.
Probably not so much at istock or Shutterstock.
So at the moment Adobe Stock ist doing better for me, but i guess it will change next years.

« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2024, 09:43 »
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Thats crazy I only contribute to Adobe. Why do people bother contributing to other stock agencies if they pay so little? Is it a habit?

You really should look in to it more, you won't get Adobe earnings on others, but you will earn more on 10 stock sites than on 1 (at least x3 times total), and you already have the images...
Thank you, I will 😀 its interesting that only 1-2 images from series are selling usually, so I definitely can upload non selling images ( that are very similar to selling ones ) to other sites.
« Last Edit: February 22, 2024, 09:46 by Mifornia »

bpawesome

  • 3D artist & Full Stack Developer

« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2024, 10:31 »
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Thank you, I will 😀 its interesting that only 1-2 images from series are selling usually, so I definitely can upload non selling images ( that are very similar to selling ones ) to other sites.

You don't have exclusivity with Adobe, why won't you want to sell your bestselling content on others sites?

Think that you produce a product, and you only sell it in 1 city,  that doesn't mean that potential buyers will go to another city to buy it...
All stock sites have subscribed members that buy only form that site (usually), sell your best images on all sites to earn as much as possible..

« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2024, 22:03 »
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Thank you, I will 😀 its interesting that only 1-2 images from series are selling usually, so I definitely can upload non selling images ( that are very similar to selling ones ) to other sites.

You don't have exclusivity with Adobe, why won't you want to sell your bestselling content on others sites?

Think that you produce a product, and you only sell it in 1 city,  that doesn't mean that potential buyers will go to another city to buy it...
All stock sites have subscribed members that buy only form that site (usually), sell your best images on all sites to earn as much as possible..

Wont that dilute my sales of my bestsellers?

(And what other agencies do you recommend?)

bpawesome

  • 3D artist & Full Stack Developer

« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2024, 04:36 »
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Wont that dilute my sales of my bestsellers?

(And what other agencies do you recommend?)

Why would it? It's totally different buyers and stock sites...

Only way I can see it affecting Adobe sales is MAYBE search engines results, but from my experience you get way more search results and sales with different sites, that maybe you currently don't get at all...
Anyway more sales for you.

You can find a list of stock sites here:
https://upstock.guru/information/stock-sites-list-for-contributors.html

« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2024, 17:50 »
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I'm bringing this up again, because I still don't understand what these custom commissions are based on, like, *at all*.

Here's what I see and my peers in our German forums report as well:

- There are several tiers of custom sales - certainly different products on the buyers' side - and all sales within the same group/product come in for the same amount. So, the commissions can't be based on whatever currency the respective buyer pays in, but on US prices in US dollars.

- Those commissions either decline or increase over long periods of time (weeks and even months) and they do so solely in one direction - there aren't any ups and downs - cent by cent and day by day.

First, I thought this was due to exchange rate differences between Euros and Dollars, but the difference is *way* to high for that. E.g. the group at the highest commission rate paid $1,46 in January, then started gradually declining to $1,00 in mid February and then to $0,96 right now. (Again: ALL in the same group did so.) The dollar to Euro exchange rate never differed by roughly one third. (Also, as Europeans we already have to take the exchange rate risk, because we get paid in US dollars now, we shouldn't have to take it *twice* after all, should we?)

If this relates to differences in the buyers' behavior instead (= using up more or less of their potential downloads), why does this happen that gradually and solely in one direction? Shouldn't there be any ups and downs over several weeks or even months in this case?
And, given this type of "fluctuation" is calculated over longer periods than, say, days or weeks, why would the amounts change cent by cent *each day* then?

If you even disregard this: How does such a split work at all? A buyer pays a certain amount of dollars for a certain pack of assets (resp. credits while the credits to be invested on a certain asset are fixed). They then use x of them and don't use y. From what I understand, from the amount for "unused" assets y nearly 100% go directly to Adobe - so far, so good for them. But what about the "rest" of actually downloaded assets? The total amount x stays the same. Our percentage stays the same, too. If each artist gets their part, because a buyer had actually licensed one of their assets, why would the commission change then, anyway?

Maybe it's just me not quite getting it (I'm admittedly not good at figures.), but perhaps you could shed some more light on this matter, @MatHayward ? It would be much appreciated for sure! :)

« Last Edit: March 18, 2024, 18:33 by Anja_Kaiser »

« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2024, 19:25 »
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...- There are several tiers of custom sales - certainly different products on the buyers' side - and all sales within the same group/product come in for the same amount. So, the commissions can't be based on whatever currency the respective buyer pays in, but on US prices in US dollars.

- Those commissions either decline or increase over long periods of time (weeks and even months) and they do so solely in one direction - there aren't any ups and downs - cent by cent and day by day.

There has been discussion about these "custom" royalties in another thread. You can read the other posts in that thread as well, but I think the gist of the puzzle about the royalties we see is that there are "Pro" plans (enterprise customers) which include unlimited stock downloads

https://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/i-see-many-$1-40-royalty-per-photo-sale-this-year-anybody-noticed-too/msg598710/#msg598710

Mat had said in a different thread that the nominal "price the customer pays" for these downloads is calculated daily for all users of that particular plan. We then get 33% of that.

There appear to be several tiers of these unlimited plans as the royalties cluster around the $1.xx mark or the $0.3x mark. Today's royalties were $0.96 and $0.35 (for the custom section). These plans aren't new, but when I looked at the pages advertising them recently, I was pretty galled to see customers advised this was a way to lower their overall stock spend!

https://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/i-see-many-$1-40-royalty-per-photo-sale-this-year-anybody-noticed-too/msg598710/#msg598710

Mat has been asked repeatedly about whether there is any floor for these custom royalties, and each time he has repeated that we get 33% of what the customer pays (whether that's a constructive price or an actual payment).

Unlimited download plans are never a good deal from the contributor's point of view


 

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