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« Reply #50 on: April 30, 2024, 11:47 »
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The overall collection growth also includes the endless number of duplicates of duplicates.

How much of the content added is really new??

Probably just a tiny fraction.

As a producer you need to always monitor the content arriving in your personal niche and target group.

If the new content coming is much better quality than what you are offering, chances are your sales will slag.

If what is coming in is similar or even worse quality, there is not that much too worry about.

So even if Adobe adds 500 million new files a year, I wouldn't be surprised if only 5 million are truly new and unique content.


« Reply #51 on: April 30, 2024, 12:32 »
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Exactly,Jo Ann raised an important point in my opinion.

I believe that as things currently stand,a contributor who produces at least 30-40 content on average per month will continue to earn more every year,but the question is:"How much content will it be necessary to produce in 5 years?"

this is a good question,which has an uncertain answer,because in my opinion,being an active contributor and uploading at least an average of 30-40 contents per month,It not only counteracts total Adobe collection growth,ensuring your portfolio continues to sell,but it also ensures that your portfolio is "active" for Adobe's sales system,which therefore in my opinion manages it differently,continuing to grow your earnings over the years.

for me,regardless of what you produce,unless you are truly terrible,the sales system if it recognizes you as "active" continues to make you grow.

It seems clear to me,and if anyone is wondering why I'm so sure,it's because I am able to understand how many sales I will make each month,not how much I will earn but I can easily understand the number of sales in a month.

I already know how many sales I will make each month and I guess 95% of the time,so it seems clear to me that our portfolios are managed by the sales system,which allows you to grow,certainly based on some conditions unknown to me,but of which being "active" is certainly one of them.

therefore,in light of all this,I believe that even an exponential growth of the Adobe collection is certainly reduced by being considered "active" by the sales system.

but still the question certainly remains:"how much content will we need to produce in 10 years to continue earning more?"

« Reply #52 on: April 30, 2024, 14:00 »
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however,the answer to this question lies more in the number of contributors than in the total number of files that will be uploaded to the Adobe collection.

because I believe that it will be much more difficult for the sales system to manage a greater number of "active" contributors,rather than billions of additional files.

bpawesome

  • 3D artist & Full Stack Developer

« Reply #53 on: April 30, 2024, 20:35 »
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It's $0.27 now...

« Reply #54 on: May 01, 2024, 03:49 »
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It's $0.27 now...

the countdown to extinction continues! :D

so it would be a custom royalty of $0.31 but because of your tax deduction is $0,27.

bpawesome

  • 3D artist & Full Stack Developer

« Reply #55 on: May 01, 2024, 04:19 »
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the countdown to extinction continues! :D

so it would be a custom royalty of $0.31 but because of your tax deduction is $0,27.

My tax is 10%, so I don't know what it suppose to be anymore

« Reply #56 on: May 01, 2024, 06:54 »
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Got a few $0.31 sales again today. I feel compelled to delete my recent "good" content from Adobe  :D

« Reply #57 on: May 01, 2024, 16:21 »
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Today's custom royalty levels are both up and down - $1.01 (versus $1.03 yesterday), $0.31 and $0.39.

 It's hard to match these tiers up with past royalties, but I think what is now $0.39 was $0.42 back in Dec 2023

bpawesome

  • 3D artist & Full Stack Developer

« Reply #58 on: May 02, 2024, 09:36 »
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this is horrible to watch

« Reply #59 on: May 05, 2024, 11:20 »
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I got a custom license for .30 today - no tax withholding. This is Sunday the 5th - which seems an odd day for sales to be so high that my license cut is rock bottom.

Maybe they offset the sales a day or 2 or more to calculate out what we will get paid - it seems they would have to wait at least until the end of the day before they could calculate it. If that was the case I would expect a lump of custom sales at the time of calculation every day.

In any case the march down seems to continue. Anyone want to make any predictions when the first .29 will come - or the first .25 or lower. I don't think Adobe has said there will be a floor and they are happy to discount our images since they get paid up front and get their full cut, it is just our cut that is sliced thinner and thinner with these custom plans.

« Reply #60 on: May 06, 2024, 03:20 »
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Got my first 0.30$ sale today - no tax withholding. Sad to see the last remaining agency go down the drain..

« Reply #61 on: May 06, 2024, 09:19 »
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got one too

« Reply #62 on: May 06, 2024, 09:58 »
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 ???   0.30 USD too. ByeBye minimum 0.33, welcome 0.10 USD soon, hello poverty as an artist  :o

zeljkok

  • Non Linear Existence
« Reply #63 on: May 06, 2024, 15:36 »
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This was all really to be expected.   At least it is still (almost) 3x better than endless SS 0.10 stream

In more ways than one Firefly and similar AI platforms are final nail in stock photographers coffin.  I'd love to be proved wrong

« Reply #64 on: May 06, 2024, 17:51 »
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Ive been watching todays sales and have seen a bunch of $0.40 custom royalties (plus the higher tier at $1.02).

Probably shouldnt complain - is anyone else seeing $0.40 custom royalties as well as $0.30?

« Reply #65 on: May 06, 2024, 18:08 »
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only .30 and 1.02 today. yesterday I had .30 and .40

I'm not sure that my time zone (west coast USA) syncs up with Adobe's days though.


« Reply #66 on: May 06, 2024, 18:16 »
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is anyone else seeing $0.40 custom royalties as well as $0.30?
Today I had 3 different custom numbers:
-> 0,30 (some) - 0,40 (very few) - 1,02 (some)

« Reply #67 on: May 07, 2024, 17:16 »
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I have 0.30 and 1.03 today


« Reply #68 on: May 08, 2024, 12:29 »
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Today I saw the first $0.30 custom royalty (the higher tier is $1.03 today) - I figured the parade of $0.40 royalties might get interrupted at some point :)

Yesterday there was one $3.30 subscription royalty, an increasingly rare bird. $0.38 subscriptions are still around, but that's the last remnant of a system where you earned higher royalties the more licenses you sold. It was also part of a system where the discounts for buyers came out of the agency's share alone. At the time the $0.38 royalty was set up, Shutterstock was the competition and that was their subscription royalty for the top tier earners.

The unlimited stock asset subscriptions have no minimum royalty for us - just 33% of whatever calculated price Adobe comes up with. Looking at the trend in the sub-$0.38 subscription royalties this year, my average was $0.368 in February, $0.353 in March, $0.333 in April and so far in May, $0.307

For the $1-$2 custom royalty tier, Feb $1.032, Mar $1.044, Apr $1.040 and May so far $1.021

« Reply #69 on: May 10, 2024, 04:36 »
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I'd imagine prices will also fluctuate based on exchange rates clients/customers are paying. When I see a shift in those exchanges rates the $ I receive also changes. I don't think the changes are always discounts, although that does happen as well. The customers sub is set once a year @ what ever $ or whatever currency they pay in so as the exchange rate changes, it may mean the $ per image also shifts as the strength of the $ also shifts. Also, it could be to do with the volume. If a client doesn't make use of their full allocation 400 images instead of 500 then the split may vary. It's probably quite a complex but has a base to stop it dropping below minimum payment.

I only occasionally see one drop below $0.38 and see a lot of $1.03. Sometimes they drop to $0.99... ebb and flow, they change like the (economic) tide!
« Last Edit: May 10, 2024, 04:45 by HalfFull »

« Reply #70 on: May 10, 2024, 05:14 »
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Got a 0.31$ sale today, after several 0.30$ ones in the last couple of days. So customers must be downloading less I guess.

« Reply #71 on: May 10, 2024, 05:54 »
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As I said.... small daily fluctuations most likely exchange rate related.

« Reply #72 on: May 10, 2024, 06:12 »
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As I said.... small daily fluctuations most likely exchange rate related.
I thought so as well, but it probably isn't the case. The USD exchange rate fluctuated in the last few days, but the 0.30$ sales stayed the same

« Reply #73 on: May 10, 2024, 07:56 »
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I'd imagine prices will also fluctuate based on exchange rates clients/customers are paying. When I see a shift in those exchanges rates the $ I receive also changes. I don't think the changes are always discounts, although that does happen as well. The customers sub is set once a year @ what ever $ or whatever currency they pay in so as the exchange rate changes, it may mean the $ per image also shifts as the strength of the $ also shifts. Also, it could be to do with the volume. If a client doesn't make use of their full allocation 400 images instead of 500 then the split may vary. It's probably quite a complex but has a base to stop it dropping below minimum payment.

I only occasionally see one drop below $0.38 and see a lot of $1.03. Sometimes they drop to $0.99... ebb and flow, they change like the (economic) tide!

Based on what Mat Hayward has posted here about how these royalties are calculated, it has nothing to do with exchange rate fluctuations:

https://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/adobe-stock-announcing-pro-edition-for-creative-cloud-for-teams-and-enterprises/msg563164/#msg563164

From the above:

"... every day, we generate an overall earnings pool equal to 33% of our total Adobe Stock CCE Pro revenue for the day. We then allocate these earnings to contributors based on the number of downloads."

When the unlimited subscriptions were first introduced, I explicitly asked about a floor - some minimum royalty - and Mat effectively acknowledged there wasn't one (outside of royalties in the "subscription" category; all these sales are in the "custom" category)

https://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/announcing-adobe-creative-cloud-express/

« Reply #74 on: May 10, 2024, 08:29 »
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Today I got a 5 dollar sale for an image, that brings some balance



 

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