Author Topic: Editorial Video in Adobe? (Read 16355 times)

Video1977 · « **on:** March 02, 2019, 19:36 »

Hello, anyone knows if it is possible to upload videos for editorial use in Adobe Stock?

davidbautista · « **Reply #1 on:** March 02, 2019, 19:37 »

Quote from: maradonasland on March 02, 2019, 19:36

Hello, anyone knows if it is possible to upload videos for editorial use in Adobe Stock?

As far as I know, no

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MicroVet · « **Reply #3 on:** March 03, 2019, 01:13 »

Quote from: MatHayward on March 02, 2019, 23:44

Our editorial content is sourced through outside agencies at this time. We are not accepting editorial submissions from individual contributors.

-Mat Hayward

And that is a shame because I estimate that close to half of my income comes from editorial content. Mainly photos but some video too. And I'm a full time stock photographer so I know there's a large market for it.

And since Adobe does not accept editorial, it's probably the most forgiving when it comes to recognizable people in photos. Images that would not be accepted on other agencies because of recognizable people, pass on Adobe. That could be a problem.

mindstorm · « **Reply #4 on:** March 03, 2019, 05:29 »

Quote from: MicroVet on March 03, 2019, 01:13

And that is a shame because I estimate that close to half of my income comes from editorial content. Mainly photos but some video too. And I'm a full time stock photographer so I know there's a large market for it.

Yep, me too...

georgep7 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 03, 2019, 07:05 »

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Our editorial content is sourced through outside agencies at this time.

Still a newbie but i beleive that eng editorial sublects (from reuters and similar) as migrant crisis, politics, environmental issues, sports etc are a whole totally diferent world than stock editorials on local markets, walks, landmarks, whatever from around the world is classified as editorial but actually have no "news"worthy value.

Video1977 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 03, 2019, 07:19 »

Ok, thank you all.

Quote from: MatHayward on March 02, 2019, 23:44

Quote from: maradonasland on March 02, 2019, 19:36
Hello, anyone knows if it is possible to upload videos for editorial use in Adobe Stock?

Our editorial content is sourced through outside agencies at this time. We are not accepting editorial submissions from individual contributors.

-Mat Hayward

trek · « **Reply #7 on:** March 03, 2019, 07:51 »

Please, please, please start accepting non-people editorial. I understand not wanting to feed and encourage paparazzi but adding editorial places and things would be great for both AdobeStock and it's contributors.

MicroVet · « **Reply #8 on:** March 03, 2019, 08:32 »

Quote from: georgep7 on March 03, 2019, 07:05

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Our editorial content is sourced through outside agencies at this time.

Still a newbie but i beleive that eng editorial sublects (from reuters and similar) as migrant crisis, politics, environmental issues, sports etc are a whole totally diferent world than stock editorials on local markets, walks, landmarks, whatever from around the world is classified as editorial but actually have no "news"worthy value.

Exactly. There are a lot of places, like travel destinations or even shops or product brands, which have a lot of value in stock photography but do not classify as news worthy.

Not news but still editorial, not only because they include elements that are not released and cannot be Commercial, but even because they are essentially sought by the editorial press like magazines or newspapers, and not by advertisers.

As an example, I have a photo of a name of a Bank on a building which has been involved in an ongoing scandal for years now. It's far from my best seller but it regularly sells. Why? Because economy and financial sections of newspapers and magazines need images to illustrate an article about that bank.

When it comes to travel places and tourist destinations, then the sales multiply incomparably. I believe I could almost double my income on Adobe with the acceptance of my editorial portfolio. In fact, I believe it's the reason why I still sell about half of what Shutterstock gives me.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #9 on:** March 03, 2019, 20:13 »

Quote from: mindstorm on March 03, 2019, 05:29

Quote from: MicroVet on March 03, 2019, 01:13
And that is a shame because I estimate that close to half of my income comes from editorial content. Mainly photos but some video too. And I'm a full time stock photographer so I know there's a large market for it.

Yep, me too...

20 to 25% but all Mat can do is report that we would really appreciate the ability to share our editorial content. I could sure use a boost.

WaterView · « **Reply #10 on:** March 03, 2019, 20:43 »

Around the time I found out Adobe was buying Fotolia I was sent a question or survey by Adobe. I remember I was asked if I thought Adobe should start accepting Editorial Video. I had never made editorial footage and still haven't but have made and uploaded a lot of editorial pictures to many sites.
If Adobe had asked me if I thought they should start accepting editorial images I would have said YES! but, I wasn't asked that.
Now, seeing this thread, I do think Adobe Stock should start accepting from contributors footage as well as editorial images as soon as possible. I think it would be great because it's a great idea. There are so many editorial newsworthy things that local photographers and makers of moving images that business people are looking to buy/license and it can add quite a bit to the bottom line of Adobe and Contributors as well as contributing to the local news images and stories. Hopefully someone from Adobe Stock will see this opinion and please start asking for and accepting editorial images and footage from existing and future contributors. Thanks Adobe! :~)

cobalt · « **Reply #11 on:** March 04, 2019, 20:50 »

I am amazed how well editorial video sells and some for very high prices.

You just need to look at the pond5 thread where people post sales results, a really superhigh percentage is editorial.

There are so many local festivals, daily life situations that professional suppliers cannot provide.

The world is a very large place, so please Mat, ask them to reconsider, at least for video.

wds · « **Reply #12 on:** March 05, 2019, 09:18 »

Quote from: cobalt on March 04, 2019, 20:50

I am amazed how well editorial video sells and some for very high prices.

You just need to look at the pond5 thread where people post sales results, a really superhigh percentage is editorial.

There are so many local festivals, daily life situations that professional suppliers cannot provide.

The world is a very large place, so please Mat, ask them to reconsider, at least for video.

True for stills as well!

wordplanet · « **Reply #13 on:** March 05, 2019, 14:32 »

+1 both stills (which account for a lot of my sales elsewhere since travel is a big part of my portfolio - but even pix of e.g. the NYC marathon from 2010 that I took as a bystander still sell regularly 9 years later). Wish I’d taken video too. So Mat please let them know we’re interested. I think the lack of editorial is why my ports at SS, Alamy & yes even dreamstime do better when Adobe should have an advantage. Thanks Mat

davidbautista · « **Reply #14 on:** March 05, 2019, 23:24 »

Indeed. We are not talking about newsworthy stuff just non released people and property. Also trademarks. That sells a lot in SS...

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davidbautista · « **Reply #16 on:** March 06, 2019, 09:21 »

Quote from: Dennis Radeke on March 06, 2019, 09:14

Quote from: davidbautista on March 05, 2019, 23:24
Indeed. We are not talking about newsworthy stuff just non released people and property. Also trademarks. That sells a lot in SS...

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Thanks everyone for chiming in on this important topic. Love and do know that we're always evaluating what can be done to make our service and our contributors more successful.

Out of curiosity, how many people here are talking about video vs photos?

Thanks,
Dennis

I'm talking about photos that contain non released property or people and also with trademarks. That would be a good thing for AS. Specially when AS Latinamerica is making a huge effort in marketing (I follow them on social media), they need to realize that many Central and South American countries are not "covered" in terms of trademarks or street photos with non released people/property. I sell a lot of those pictures in SS and iS, even if I'm not a professional.

Not sure about video or "newsworthy" assets.

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Uncle Pete · « **Reply #17 on:** March 06, 2019, 09:28 »

Quote from: Dennis Radeke on March 06, 2019, 09:14

Quote from: davidbautista on March 05, 2019, 23:24
Indeed. We are not talking about newsworthy stuff just non released people and property. Also trademarks. That sells a lot in SS...

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Thanks everyone for chiming in on this important topic. Love and do know that we're always evaluating what can be done to make our service and our contributors more successful.

Out of curiosity, how many people here are talking about video vs photos?

Thanks,
Dennis

Myself, little or no video, all about Editorial photos. Mine are released media material, not public news or things without a release that get marked "Editorial".

I'm sure there are a variety of different ways that people here work. I'm actually restricted from taking video at many events as Television owns the rights.

trek · « **Reply #18 on:** March 06, 2019, 11:17 »

trek · « **Reply #19 on:** March 06, 2019, 11:20 »

Both! About 25% of my video and photo portfolios are travel editorial. They sell nearly as well as the commercial shots. I think journalists and bloggers don't want signs removed from cityscapes and streetscapes. They want realism. Accepting editorial would be beneficial for buyers, contributors and AdobeStock.

Not Today · « **Reply #20 on:** March 06, 2019, 11:46 »

+1 both photo and video

georgep7 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 06, 2019, 13:53 »

+1 for video

bestravelvideo · « **Reply #22 on:** March 06, 2019, 14:00 »

Both photo and video with frequent travels to European cities, covering the posibillity of direct fast uploads on the spot, in case of breaking news or public events that do not need press releases.

fotoroad · « **Reply #23 on:** March 06, 2019, 15:29 »

Quote from: Dennis Radeke on March 06, 2019, 09:14

Quote from: davidbautista on March 05, 2019, 23:24
Indeed. We are not talking about newsworthy stuff just non released people and property. Also trademarks. That sells a lot in SS...

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Thanks everyone for chiming in on this important topic. Love and do know that we're always evaluating what can be done to make our service and our contributors more successful.

Out of curiosity, how many people here are talking about video vs photos?

Thanks,
Dennis

Photo and video from me

WaterView · « **Reply #24 on:** March 06, 2019, 21:13 »

Hi Dennis,
Both editorial pictures and editorial video would be a most welcome addition to what can be uploaded from current and future contributors that can be licensed on Adobe Stock. I have uploaded a lot of well selling editorial pictures but, I can see the potential in editorial footage and will start making editorial video next time I make editorial pictures.
Please open Adobe to accepting editorial pictures as well as editorial footage.
Thanks for your consideration.
:~)

wds · « **Reply #25 on:** March 06, 2019, 22:33 »

Talking about both editorial photos and videos here. Have both on other sites and they sell.

emblem · « **Reply #26 on:** March 06, 2019, 23:16 »

Photos and videos here...

PinHead · « **Reply #27 on:** March 07, 2019, 07:29 »

Just sold an editorial clip on shutterstock with 300 $ so...adobestock if u want to get in poll position you will have to accept editorials, there is no other way

davidbautista · « **Reply #28 on:** March 07, 2019, 07:31 »

Congrats! And yes, my 3 best sellers in SS and my best seller in iS are all editorial.

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cobalt · « **Reply #29 on:** March 07, 2019, 07:35 »

Hello Adobe,

all my Karneval Cologne 2019 will soon be available for sale at pond5 and Shutterstock.

Don‘t you want content that looks truly local and real?

You are non exclusive, you don‘t have to take everything...but why leave the contract with CNN and BBC to other companies.

bestravelvideo · « **Reply #30 on:** March 07, 2019, 08:22 »

Would it be a bad suggestion if Adobe for ther time only asked us, current contributors, to upload editorials? Would this be unfair to those who do not upload to Adobe? It could be "safer" for the company for now, as they know our style and can review our past work, plus they know our sales volume! If they do not open editorials to everyone, they could very well cope with not having to deal with a flood of people uploading just everything. That might mean longer review times and more server space. Both parts lose money from not being able to submit/accept editorials. Some local events are lost in that way. For example, I justed returned from Venice carnival. Searching for example around stock agencies with live news stock or exclusive ones, I must have been the only one climbing up the Saint Mark's square Campanile (ok, elevator use!) to have panoramic view photos and videos of the stage and event. Would't Adobe want to use and gain money from that? I am sure we can all add our examples of missed Adobe editorial opportunities here! I just do not know if that thing, the suggetion we are trying to do, will only be a paper an employee will forward to its superiors, only to be left in a drawer, or not.

davidbautista · « **Reply #31 on:** March 07, 2019, 08:28 »

What I think is that they must already understand the whole panorama of accepting or not editorial photos and they are postponing the choice. It is impossible that they are so blind about that.

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odesigns · « **Reply #32 on:** March 07, 2019, 09:12 »

The problem is, and this applies to all agencies, that "editorial" has wrongly become a catch all for non-released.

I think there should be three categories:

Fully-released/commercial
Editorial (i.e., truly newsworthy)
Non-released (clips that are NOT newsworthy but contain unreleased people or properties)

mindstorm · « **Reply #33 on:** March 07, 2019, 10:21 »

Both. I have roughly 2500 editorial stock images up on other agencies right now, and roughly 550 editorial videos.

And I am early on a 3 month trip covering 7 countries that will produce hundreds more in each category...

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #34 on:** March 07, 2019, 10:32 »

Quote from: ODesigns on March 07, 2019, 09:12

The problem is, and this applies to all agencies, that "editorial" has wrongly become a catch all for non-released.

I think there should be three categories:

Fully-released/commercial
Editorial (i.e., truly newsworthy)
Non-released (clips that are NOT newsworthy but contain unreleased people or properties)

Well said, and three types would help buyers, before they search. I have quite a bit of Editorial Only, but shot with permission.

alijaber · « **Reply #35 on:** March 07, 2019, 11:46 »

+1 for video

cobalt · « **Reply #36 on:** March 07, 2019, 13:08 »

If they are worried about low quality content flodding the site, they could do it in stages.

Only 10 videos/photos a week or per month allowed.

Upload limits force people to make decisions about what they really feel is important.

And then only lift the limits gradually in response to sale success.

And if there is someone they like, they can always change their individual limits.

davidbautista · « **Reply #37 on:** March 07, 2019, 13:53 »

They are already very picky!

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Belish · « **Reply #38 on:** March 07, 2019, 15:59 »

Both videos and images. Both news and just unreleased. About 20%-30% of my portfolio.

Video1977 · « **Reply #39 on:** March 07, 2019, 15:59 »

My original question was about the video, obviously. I have a lot of material that is rejected because I do not have the intellectual property of a building or a guy that appears in the background, and very good videos are discarded that could perfectly be editorials. Greetings.

Quote from: Dennis Radeke on March 06, 2019, 09:14

Thanks everyone for chiming in on this important topic. Love and do know that we're always evaluating what can be done to make our service and our contributors more successful.

Out of curiosity, how many people here are talking about video vs photos?

Thanks,
Dennis

Dennis Radeke · « **Reply #40 on:** March 11, 2019, 12:36 »

Hi all,

Just wanted to chime in again and say thank you for your responses. A lot of your thinking and suggestions makes a lot of sense. I will definitely be keeping this in mind and come back to review this thread again.

If any of you are headed to NAB, please be sure to stop by the Adobe booth and introduce yourself!

Dennis

cobalt · « **Reply #41 on:** March 12, 2019, 03:35 »

Thank you for taking us seriously!

davidbautista · « **Reply #43 on:** March 18, 2019, 07:30 »

Quote from: Dennis Radeke on March 18, 2019, 07:26

Quote from: cobalt on March 12, 2019, 03:35
Thank you for taking us seriously!

Honestly, it's my pleasure. I firmly believe in trying to make everybody successful. There will always be a push and pull on this but if nothing else, please know that I and many others at Adobe are trying to think about contributors and enabling them for future success.

Thanks. Push the keywords search in portfolio and better interface.

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jjneff · « **Reply #44 on:** March 18, 2019, 09:34 »

+1 for Video

wollwerth · « **Reply #45 on:** March 18, 2019, 12:34 »

I have a lot of both photos and video. I travel to a lot of remote locations and frequently get content that is used for travel documentaries on other agencies.

BigBubba · « **Reply #46 on:** March 21, 2019, 13:46 »

Hi Dennis,

Video mostly but also photos.
Come on Adobestock, I think it’s time to dive into the Editorial world as well.
It sells.

With or without Editorial...I still love “Everything Adobe”.

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trek · « **Reply #47 on:** March 21, 2019, 15:47 »

Pond 5 says they will begin selling clips through Adobe. Will this include editorial? If so, what will the price point be?

Thanks

travelstock · « **Reply #48 on:** March 21, 2019, 17:42 »

Quote from: Dennis Radeke on March 06, 2019, 09:14

Quote from: davidbautista on March 05, 2019, 23:24
Indeed. We are not talking about newsworthy stuff just non released people and property. Also trademarks. That sells a lot in SS...

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Thanks everyone for chiming in on this important topic. Love the feedback and do know that we're always evaluating what can be done to make our service and our contributors more successful.

Out of curiosity, how many people here are talking about video vs photos?

Thanks,
Dennis

Editorial video would be good from my perspective - its a huge part of sales on P5 and SS.

wordplanet · « **Reply #49 on:** April 18, 2019, 23:34 »

Hoping to add video to the mix in the future but for now, just stills. I've shot for magazines and newspapers in the NY metro area and have had travel images in Fodor's, DK & Nat Geo books, Smithsonian, Coastal Living and other well-know magazines, dozens of newspapers & (London) Sunday Times magazine cover. More than 50% of those had unreleased people, and in about 20-30%, the scenery was as important to the story as were the people, in others, the crowds themselves were the story. To me, editorial is all about telling a story, whether it's breaking news, or just a quiet moment of real life on some far away shore. it's not an excuse for some random shot where I couldn't get a release. And I am sure that I am not alone.

I like Jasmin's ("cobalt") idea of a limit to start with if you want to open the floodgates but control the flow. I'm primarily an editorial shooter, and travel is a big part of my overall portfolio, so I'd welcome the opportunity to considerably enlarge my tiny Adobe Stock portfolio by uploading those types of images. Maybe do another "contest" and give us a free year of Adobe CC for getting our first 500 editorial images accepted?

Mat has been great at listening to us here and it's nice to see he now has company in making sure the powers that be know what we rabble are thinking.

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