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Agency Based Discussion => Adobe Stock => Topic started by: John Snow on August 17, 2017, 08:01

Title: Evermotion 3d scenes rendering on Adobe Stock (and other stock sites)
Post by: John Snow on August 17, 2017, 08:01
In the adobe stock forum there is a very interesting thread for those who do 3d. How far can you go using items bought in stores like evermotion and having explicit permission to sell it in microstock?

https://forums.adobe.com/message/9761927#9761927
Title: Re: Evermotion 3d scenes rendering on Adobe Stock (and other stock sites)
Post by: michaeldb on August 17, 2017, 21:50
The issue of whether or not you can use in your renders for microstock elements you bought at places like Turbosquid comes up now and then. It can be complicated. The last I knew, Shutterstock will not accept any renders of architectural interiors, for the reasons mentioned in the thread you linked to. However they will accept some other kinds of CG renders.

It is my experience that some elements, such as obj meshes, textures, etc can be used legally and can be accepted at most microstock agencies, but it depends on what license you get from the vendor. It can be hard to know since most such licenses are written in bad legalese. But it is my understanding that most vendors do not grant a license to use elements in stock which you sell. E.g. my reading of Turbosquid's license is that they do not allow this. However some vendors do grant such a license. You just have to read the license and try to figure out what rights it grants you.
Title: Re: Evermotion 3d scenes rendering on Adobe Stock (and other stock sites)
Post by: Yay Images Billionaire on August 17, 2017, 22:33
I e-mailed one company whose renders I wanted to use as backgrounds to ask them about using renders as stock and to clarify the wording in their Licence Agreement which did not address re-selling directly. Their response was to "read the Licence Agreement." Super helpful.
Title: Re: Evermotion 3d scenes rendering on Adobe Stock (and other stock sites)
Post by: SpaceStockFootage on August 18, 2017, 00:21
Yeah, I sometimes use 3D models in my renders which I've bought online. Turbosquid don't allow this under any of their licenses, which is why I don't buy stuff from there for use.in my work. CG Trader do allow this under their general license, and I'm sure there's more.

So on top of any rules the sites you're submitting to much have, just go through the license terms of the site to make sure you're not going to get in trouble.
Title: Re: Evermotion 3d scenes rendering on Adobe Stock (and other stock sites)
Post by: namussi on August 18, 2017, 01:37
I e-mailed one company whose renders I wanted to use as backgrounds to ask them about using renders as stock and to clarify the wording in their Licence Agreement which did not address re-selling directly. Their response was to "read the Licence Agreement." Super helpful.

...but a great way for the company to protect itself.
Title: Re: Evermotion 3d scenes rendering on Adobe Stock (and other stock sites)
Post by: John Snow on August 18, 2017, 02:28
Yeah, I sometimes use 3D models in my renders which I've bought online. Turbosquid don't allow this under any of their licenses, which is why I don't buy stuff from there for use.in my work. CG Trader do allow this under their general license, and I'm sure there's more.

Evermotion also allows.

Shutterstock has returned to accept interior renders, with certain conditions.
The point is to what extent it is necessary to modify the scenes. And above all what problems you can have with Shutterstock, Fotolia, etc. We already know that they do not doubt if they have to close the account to a contributor.

In addition, Evermotion allows to sell the render of their scenes in microstock, but in the examples of the forum of adobe we see screenshots of Mac OS X, with logos of applications, etc. And they are not licensed for that.
Title: Re: Evermotion 3d scenes rendering on Adobe Stock (and other stock sites)
Post by: SpaceStockFootage on August 18, 2017, 17:25
I e-mailed one company whose renders I wanted to use as backgrounds to ask them about using renders as stock and to clarify the wording in their Licence Agreement which did not address re-selling directly. Their response was to "read the Licence Agreement." Super helpful.

...but a great way for the company to protect itself.

Yeah, it's kind of standard procedure. The license agreement will probably have been drawn up by a lawyer and will include all the information required when it comes to usage, even if it;s not amazingly clear. It's when non-lawyers from support start to explain, interpret or make judgements based on the user agreement that things can go wrong... so it's safer just to refer people to the agreement.