Hopefully Adobe will surprise us this year just like last year. Fingers crossed

firefly for 2024?

You already got your big payment last year. Adobe will not pay you for using the same images to train the same AI application twice. The training has already happened.
I don't understand how some people still believe having their images used for AI training would be any sustainable means of income. It's a one-time thing.

You will probably get a payment for new images you have added since then, but unless you are a new contributor or somehow managed to add as many new images last year as in all your previous years with microstock combined, the amount you will recive will be much smaller.

Firefly Contributor Bonus
All eligible Adobe Stock contributors with photos, vectors or illustrations in the standard and Premium collection, whose content was used to train the first commercial Firefly model will receive a Firefly bonus. This initial bonus, which will be different for each contributor, is based on the all-time total number of approved images submitted to Adobe Stock that were used for Firefly training, and the number of licenses that those images generated in the 12-month period between June 3rd, 2022, to June 2nd, 2023. The bonus is planned to pay out once a year and is currently weighted towards number of licenses issued for an image, which we consider a useful proxy for the demand and usefulness of those images. The next Firefly Bonus is planned for 2024 for new content used for training Firefly.

Firefly Stock Submissions
With Adobe Firefly now commercially available, Firefly-generated works that meet our generative AI submission guidelines will now be eligible for submission to Adobe Stock. Given the proliferation of generative AI in tools like Photoshop, and many more tools and cameras to come, we anticipate that assets in the future will contain some number of generated pixels and we want to set up Adobe Stock for the future while protecting artists. We are increasing our moderation capabilities and systems to be more effective at preventing the use of creators� names as prompts with a focus on protecting creators� IP. Contributors who submit content that infringes or violates the IP rights of other creators will be removed from Adobe Stock.

How useful are endless repeats of sunsets, pets, roses or pizza? How many thumbs up does the world need? Or women laughing with salad?

Adobe is an open platform, it will have lots of stuff that doesn�t sell. Lots of amateur content of people taki g their first steps in the micros.

If a buyer wants an edited premium collection he can easily check out boutique agencies.

I love the ai collection, there is lots of fantastic content there. Also loads of duplicates. But overall much better lighting, colors, image composition that newbie content from camera. The advantage of ai, it does it all for them.


Looking forward to getting paid.

This is acceptable if and only if each image that powered Firefly is purchased at the price of an extended license.
Logical, since it becomes a source of resale.

If this is not the case, where can we opt out and give up this bonus ? Please inform us Adobe.

Did anyone receive any email? 

yes,I receive emails every day,lots of emails! 

but if you are referring to a specific email announcing the payment of the Firefly bonus,no it has not been issued yet.

we received an email in which it was written"we are excited to issue our second Adobe Firefly bonus payment to Adobe Stock contributors in the coming weeks"

in which it is also specified that all contents (photos, illustrations and vectors) from 3 June 2023 to 2 June 2024 will be taken into consideration and for the first time also videos,all-time approved until June 2.

Is there a way to opt out of firefly training or is it compulsory?

Quote from: DanielVisuals on September 13, 2024, 19:05

Is there a way to opt out of firefly training or is it compulsory?

Not to my knowledge.  I'd be first to opt out if possible.

Today on my Adobe Dashboard I saw "Missions".  Its same concept as iStock Briefs, but used exclusively for AI training.  Submit between 500 and 1000 images;  not processed, no metadata.   If accepted - they pay 50$ (so less than 10 cents per image).  These images will not be part of Adobe Stock portfolio.  Images can not already be part of your Adobe port.   Missions that are available to me are "Houses" and "City Streets", not sure about others

the missions are different for each contributor,and are assigned based on the type of portfolio you have,i.e. it is assessed whether you might be suitable for that type of mission.

generally,unless I believe specified,the contents used for the mission can then also be processed and sent for review to be added to the portfolio.

so for example if you take these photos of houses and city streets,you send them for the mission without processing them and without metadata,but then you also find yourself with a bunch of material that you can process and send for review for your port.

I then invite you to read the "Supplemental Works Addendum",because you have just broken point 6 of the "payment of supplementary works" section! 

Adobe! Where is my money !!! ?

 

Lebowski has it.

I also got the e mail but see nothing

I received email from Adobe Stock a few minutes ago saying that they've added a second round of Firefly payments but I don't see it in my account. They said "A banner on the Insights > My Statistics tab in the Contributor portal provides the specific amount that was added to your account." I did select the "Other Payments" dropdown and it said "You have no other payments"

Does anyone else see anything?

I think waiting until the banners were visible to send the email would have been a good idea...

My Firefly amount cannot possibly be right.  It added thousands to my monthly total.

"Other payments"

I opted out when that was available after they used all our assets to train at first, and then they opted me back in and I opted out again, but I just got a tiny payment and I can't seem to find the opt out anymore. Consider me unimpressed with Adobe.

I received only a small amount

Last year i received $1405, and now only got $27
This can't be right 

My Firefly amount cannot possibly be right.  It added thousands to my monthly total.

Same here - over $5k added.

Nice.

But I do have a lot of videos in my port, so it makes sense.

A lot... Can that be possible?

The higher payment definitely for video as I have 212 illustrations, 879 photos and 2258 videos. Got $884  which was much more than last bonus payment which only used still images

$564 happy yet I still wish I could opt out

1/10 of the amount I got last year..

$283 thank you Adobe!
 Adobe is doing more than other agencies, Adobe is paying for AI training, while others don�t pay at all.

2.581$ ... i have only videos .. 

looks like video gets a lot more money than images. hm. was going to do more video anyway next year. this is another incentive

Quote from: pancaketom on September 17, 2024, 11:24

I opted out when that was available after they used all our assets to train at first, and then they opted me back in and I opted out again, but I just got a tiny payment and I can't seem to find the opt out anymore. Consider me unimpressed with Adobe.

I am pretty sure Adobe was the one agency that never offered any opt-out option in the first place?

That might be correct, there wasn't an opt-out of the initial training. I thought there was an opt-out after that, but I might be thinking of one of the many other sites that are using our work to train our replacement. In any case there is no-opt out now.