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« Reply #1025 on: May 15, 2014, 02:36 »
+25
I have deactivated my files from DFC as of a few minutes ago.

A few months ago I deleted all my footage clips as Fotolia couldn't be trusted to sell them for realistic prices. I've also deleted most of my photos apart from the best sellers. In time I may just delete everything. I agree, agencies who bottom feed and drag the industry down need to be punished by contributors - WE HAVE THE POWER OVER AGENCIES AS A UNITED WHOLE AND NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND



« Reply #1026 on: May 15, 2014, 02:56 »
+25
My latest blog post isn't all about Fotolia and DPC, but it's a highlight (lowlight) as I review the lack of progress towards fair trade since a similar post a year or so ago

http://www.digitalbristles.com/we-still-need-fair-trade/

OM

« Reply #1027 on: May 15, 2014, 05:34 »
+2
My latest blog post isn't all about Fotolia and DPC, but it's a highlight (lowlight) as I review the lack of progress towards fair trade since a similar post a year or so ago

http://www.digitalbristles.com/we-still-need-fair-trade/


Great article. Thanks.

« Reply #1028 on: May 15, 2014, 07:09 »
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SHAME ON YOU, MICROSTOCK GROUP!!!!  If you haven't noticed, you have lost a more than nine-year member in good standing from this forum.  Thanks to the number of negative [-1] ratings on LisaFX's posts, her posts have been taken down.[/b] [/color]


Lisa has always been my favorite member here.  A class act, and a lot of wisdom to share based on her years of experience doing this. 

I've pretty much remained silent for the past year or so, but this moves me enough to chime in and say if she's truly gone, I will miss her a great deal.


I also appreciate Lisa's input and insight.  She has been generous and helpful to part timers like myself.  Lisa come back! 

Regarding DPC:  I am opted out because I prefer not to sell large size photos for one dollar.  I also opted out of Clashot for the same reason.  I also opted out of every possible partner program because I am not comfortable with dozens of third parties writing their own licensing terms for my material.  These are personal business decisions and I respect other points of views.

Regarding the future:  The top sites will have 100 million images by the end of the decade.  Cell phones with SLR like quality will soon add fuel to the fire.  The return per upload will drop but there will always be a need for fresh art and value in owning good or unique material.  So I do not see the stock photo industry as being doomed... just highly challenged. 

« Last Edit: May 15, 2014, 07:37 by trek »

« Reply #1029 on: May 15, 2014, 07:20 »
+26
So, I am a potencial client.

I look on the Shutterstock library for something very specific.
I find the perfect image. So, a pack for 5 images: $49.
"Yeah, but let me just check if that image is on DPC"
...
"oh, yes it is! Sweet"
So that's 10 images for $10.

You are that contributor, now do some maths, it's not that complicated... do you still think it is a mistake to opt out?

What you think you will earn more in Fotolia, you will lose 10 times on the other places.

« Reply #1030 on: May 15, 2014, 07:44 »
+4
I'm seeing endless DPC ads on Facebook. They must be spending a small fortune on advertising. FT are clearly putting everything they've got behind this initiative....

« Reply #1031 on: May 15, 2014, 07:49 »
+15
I'm seeing endless DPC ads on Facebook. They must be spending a small fortune on advertising. FT are clearly putting everything they've got behind this initiative....

When I see the advertising, I click on it, for them to spend money for nothing. (They pay for each click)

Shelma1

  • stockcoalition.org
« Reply #1032 on: May 15, 2014, 07:51 »
+14
I'm seeing endless DPC ads on Facebook. They must be spending a small fortune on advertising. FT are clearly putting everything they've got behind this initiative....

And I'm commenting on every one I see, telling people we're pulling our work.

« Reply #1033 on: May 15, 2014, 07:52 »
+12
My latest blog post isn't all about Fotolia and DPC, but it's a highlight (lowlight) as I review the lack of progress towards fair trade since a similar post a year or so ago

http://www.digitalbristles.com/we-still-need-fair-trade/


I have to say publicly that you are an awesome steward for this industry.

« Reply #1034 on: May 15, 2014, 08:02 »
0
This just arrived in my email inbox:

Dear Contributor,

We have some great news - our subscription payouts have all increased, starting from today!

Depending on whether your images are opt-out or opt-in with DPC, your new subscription payout will grow to either 20% or 25% of the face value of the download - with a guaranteed minimum of the commission you earn now.

So you can potentially earn five times more per subscription download (if you opt-in with DPC).

We notice you have opted out from DPC - to fully benefit from commission increases with Fotolia and additional revenue from untapped markets, we recommend you opt-in to our new fast-growing subscription website, Dollar Photo Club.

If you want to add your images back to Dollar Photo Club click here if not, then you need to do nothing.

We hope these changes will bring you significant additional revenues, starting now.

Thank you

The Fotolia Team

« Reply #1035 on: May 15, 2014, 08:05 »
0
This just arrived in my email inbox:

Dear Contributor,

We have some great news - our subscription payouts have all increased, starting from today!

Depending on whether your images are opt-out or opt-in with DPC, your new subscription payout will grow to either 20% or 25% of the face value of the download - with a guaranteed minimum of the commission you earn now.

So you can potentially earn five times more per subscription download (if you opt-in with DPC).

We notice you have opted out from DPC - to fully benefit from commission increases with Fotolia and additional revenue from untapped markets, we recommend you opt-in to our new fast-growing subscription website, Dollar Photo Club.

If you want to add your images back to Dollar Photo Club click here if not, then you need to do nothing.

We hope these changes will bring you significant additional revenues, starting now.

Thank you

The Fotolia Team

Funny, I have never received an email from them.  I am only a silver I think, but I am opted out. 

H2O

    This user is banned.
« Reply #1036 on: May 15, 2014, 08:21 »
+7
This just arrived in my email inbox:

Dear Contributor,

We have some great news - our subscription payouts have all increased, starting from today!

Depending on whether your images are opt-out or opt-in with DPC, your new subscription payout will grow to either 20% or 25% of the face value of the download - with a guaranteed minimum of the commission you earn now.

So you can potentially earn five times more per subscription download (if you opt-in with DPC).

We notice you have opted out from DPC - to fully benefit from commission increases with Fotolia and additional revenue from untapped markets, we recommend you opt-in to our new fast-growing subscription website, Dollar Photo Club.

If you want to add your images back to Dollar Photo Club click here if not, then you need to do nothing.

We hope these changes will bring you significant additional revenues, starting now.

Thank you

The Fotolia Team


Mr Tscheltzoff = Desperate Marketing

I like how he uses the word commission as if Fotolia are acting like an Agent.

Shelma1

  • stockcoalition.org
« Reply #1037 on: May 15, 2014, 08:39 »
+13
Yep. Just received the email from them. It's time to get even more people to opt out.  8)

EmberMike

« Reply #1038 on: May 15, 2014, 08:44 »
+3
I'm seeing endless DPC ads on Facebook. They must be spending a small fortune on advertising. FT are clearly putting everything they've got behind this initiative....

They're heavily advertising in graphic design magazines as well, clearly targeting existing customers of competing stock image agencies. They've got the inside back cover of HOW Magazine this month. They have something going on with GDUSA, I haven't seen the latest issue but I imagine they have an ad or "advertorial" in there as well. Who knows how many other publications.

Fotolia is at the HOW Design Live Conference in Boston this week. I'm sure they're promoting DPC there.



ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #1039 on: May 15, 2014, 08:48 »
+6
I noticed a tweet saying how wonderful the DPC is - a kick in the teeth for 'greedy photographers'.

EmberMike

« Reply #1040 on: May 15, 2014, 08:52 »
+7

Oh man.. check this out...

That DPC ad in the back cover of HOW Magazine? They crowdsourced the design and paid $270 for it in a contest: http://www.crowdspring.com/print-design/project/2368598_design-print-ad-for-dollar-photo-club/details/


« Reply #1041 on: May 15, 2014, 08:58 »
0

« Reply #1042 on: May 15, 2014, 09:14 »
+13
How to notify even more contributors about all this DPC nonsense?
It would be so it easy to make it fail and disappear if we could reach everyone.
I don't see how anyone can decide to stay opted in.

« Reply #1043 on: May 15, 2014, 09:29 »
+15
Yep. Just received the email from them. It's time to get even more people to opt out.  8)

Exactly!! I received that stupid email too.

Who would want to belong to anything called "Dollar Photo Club", anyway? It sounds like, my photography isn't that good anyway, and it is not worth more that a peanut.


« Reply #1044 on: May 15, 2014, 09:30 »
+4
On 3rd May DPC had 18% less files than Fotolia (calculated with the search tearms Business, People, Animal, Nature and Beautiful).
On 10th May it was 21%.
Today it is 23,9% (or 6.750.000 files less).
I suppose that means that since the announcement of the higher subscription royalties, MORE files/contributors are opted out instead of less ...  ;D
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that their next move will be :  DPC entry level 99 $
Doesn't necessarily mean that, as it takes a few days for opted out files to disappear from the searches. But hopefully their numbers will keep on decreasing.
« Last Edit: May 15, 2014, 09:34 by Desintegrator »

« Reply #1045 on: May 15, 2014, 09:31 »
+10
On 3rd May DPC had 18% less files than Fotolia (calculated with the search tearms Business, People, Animal, Nature and Beautiful).
On 10th May it was 21%.
Today it is 23,9% (or 6.750.000 files less).
I suppose that means that since the announcement of the higher subscription royalties, MORE files/contributors are opted out instead of less ...  ;D
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that their next move will be :  DPC entry level 99 $


Some contributors returns to DPC. But anyway, people continues to opt-out from DPC. You can check hourly changes in DPC by categories here: http://stockalliance.org/ru/dpccatstats.html

« Reply #1046 on: May 15, 2014, 09:40 »
+8
On 3rd May DPC had 18% less files than Fotolia (calculated with the search tearms Business, People, Animal, Nature and Beautiful).
On 10th May it was 21%.
Today it is 23,9% (or 6.750.000 files less).
I suppose that means that since the announcement of the higher subscription royalties, MORE files/contributors are opted out instead of less ...  ;D
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that their next move will be :  DPC entry level 99 $

how do you think the 99$ would make things any better? are we trying to push down the subscription prices? do we want to see SS pulling down the 250$ mark?

I really don't see the advantage of driving buyers from one agency to another to get the same or less, please tell me your thoughts, cheers!

« Reply #1047 on: May 15, 2014, 09:45 »
+7
Raising entry price to 99 alone would not make DPC supportable at all

Shelma1

  • stockcoalition.org
« Reply #1048 on: May 15, 2014, 09:48 »
+13
On 3rd May DPC had 18% less files than Fotolia (calculated with the search tearms Business, People, Animal, Nature and Beautiful).
On 10th May it was 21%.
Today it is 23,9% (or 6.750.000 files less).
I suppose that means that since the announcement of the higher subscription royalties, MORE files/contributors are opted out instead of less ...  ;D
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that their next move will be :  DPC entry level 99 $

how do you think the 99$ would make things any better? are we trying to push down the subscription prices? do we want to see SS pulling down the 250$ mark?

I really don't see the advantage of driving buyers from one agency to another to get the same or less, please tell me your thoughts, cheers!

I agree. Though it's a somewhat higher bar, it still undercuts everyone else because you still pay $1 per photo, which never expires. I think DPC just needs to go away completely.

« Reply #1049 on: May 15, 2014, 09:54 »
+5
The tweet about "greedy photogs" - if I have the one Liz was referring to - is more an anti-iStock/Getty rant (I think the poster assumes all that extra money is going to the photographer...

https://twitter.com/jordankettner/status/466655532812877824


 

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