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« Reply #200 on: April 29, 2014, 10:57 »
+8
Now that I click on random search results on the DPC site, most of them can't be enlarged because they're opted out, but the small preview images still appear in the search results. Ergo, it has now become a terrible user experience. Win-win situation for us!


« Reply #201 on: April 29, 2014, 10:58 »
+1
Wow, this went fast! I opted out of DPC and seconds later all my files are blocked on DPC. One can still see them, but when clicking on the file preview nothing happens.
And interestingly a lot of files all over the site don't show a preview any more. Apparently the message arrived!
Now think what would/could happen if all FT contributors push their buttons for the opt out ...

« Reply #202 on: April 29, 2014, 10:59 »
+5
Has anyone thought of making a facebook page with a link to the petition?  It would be an easy way to promote it to all of our stock friends.

If it already exists does anyone have a link to the page?

« Reply #203 on: April 29, 2014, 11:00 »
+1
Noedelhap, that's funny. We just posted almost the same results at the same time. But nevertheless there seems to happen something  :)

« Reply #204 on: April 29, 2014, 11:04 »
+2
Just checked my profile and it was set to "Don't sell my files on DPC". I asked them to remove my images from DPC yesterday, first they tried to convince me to stay, when I sent a second request they answered: "You have been opted out of Dollar Photo Club. Please allow a number of days before all changes are applied." Seems they have done it, cant find my images on DPC anymore.


« Reply #205 on: April 29, 2014, 11:06 »
+1
I have a mail from fotolia:


    
 
       
    
Dear contributor,
 
You probably heard that we have launched Dollar Photo Club . We would like to share with you what we aim to do at Fotolia with Dollar Photo Club (DPC) and how it works. Lots of information have been circulated and first we would like to lay out the facts, so you can take the best informed decision. Whatever that decision might be we will always respect it and should you wish to opt out from DPC or stay, you now simply need to select the right option here.
 
Here are the facts about Dollar Photo Club
The offer
Dollar Photo Club is a subscription model. Clients register and pay with their credit card, subscribing for a monthly or yearly rolling contract. Renewal rate so far has been close to 90% meaning people use it as a real subscription
Price per image is $1 for a standard license, which means up to 5x times higher than the daily-quota or monthly-quota subscriptions sold by main actors on the market nowadays
Payouts
Dollar Photo Club payouts are the same than any subscription at Fotolia and basically depend on your rank. Payouts range from 25 cents to 40 cents, which is well in line with the market
Dollar Photo Club sales count towards your ranking at Fotolia, increasing your level of commission. Being part of Dollar Photo Club will increase both your sales AND your commission level
At Dollar Photo Club, contrary to standard subscriptions, unused downloads never expire. That is a very different model than standard subscriptions, where agencies get all the money from unused downloads. As a result, DollarPhotoClub is a subscription model where a higher percentage of money spent goes to the photographer.
Licensing
Photos at Dollar Photo Club are sold under a standard commercial license, with a recent update limiting the print-runs to just 500k, inline with the market. Full licence terms can be seen here: http://r.fotolia.com/redirect/h3w0hrn3yzm2bcpdrmcfzf/us.dollarphotoclub.com/Info/RoyaltyFreeLicense
All Dollar Photo Club licenses are mono-seat and do not grant any extended rights
Extended license (to come)An extended license will be added shortly that should be very similar to Fotolias in term of pricing, and payments to contributors.
Why did we launch Dollar Photo Club?

At Fotolia, our aim is to take microstock to the next level: going after the millions of companies around the world who don't purchase yet any license for the images they use, especially in new markets.  We estimate to millions of downloads a day what could be the market tomorrow. That's why we have launched DPC and we spend lot of time, efforts and money in educating markets and promoting your images.  We truly believe that the stock market is only at an early stage and we need you to build a sustainable win-win business profitable to all of us.
From monitoring of customer spend on Dollar Photo Club since we began trading three months ago we have confirmed that client spending has been consistently higher, than traditional on-demand client spend in an entire year. We firmly believe this proves how a simple affordable offer helps to increase usage and spend, all of which is good for the market. By converting illegal users of images to paying clients, the microstock market ten times bigger imagine that! This is what Dollar Photo Club wants to achieve.

Please be assured that we highly appreciate your trust and are absolutely aware that this business would be nothing without the hard work, creativity and trust of all of you.

You have been one of the first to put your trust in the microstock model; hopefully you will trust our belief in the potential of the microstock market to grow and flourish to ten times its current size.

Thank you
 
The Fotolia Team
 
 

« Reply #206 on: April 29, 2014, 11:08 »
0
So i think most of the petition is done. Only the 99$ condition.

« Reply #207 on: April 29, 2014, 11:23 »
+11
There is also "disabled by default" part of the petition that was completely ignored.

« Reply #208 on: April 29, 2014, 11:35 »
0
FT have added the option to OPT OUT OF DPC. You can find it on the 'My Account' Page under 'Actions'. The 'default' value is 'OPT IN'. I have modified to change it to 'OPT OUT'.


You have been faster than me ;)




 I don't see an opt out yet on the USA site under my account. Anyone else see it?

« Reply #209 on: April 29, 2014, 11:40 »
+3
It is now at My account / my profile / contributor parameters

Don't forget to be in contributor mode

Would be nice if there was a confirmation once you it the button too :)

« Reply #210 on: April 29, 2014, 11:43 »
+1
It is now at My account / my profile / contributor parameters

Don't forget to be in contributor mode

Would be nice if there was a confirmation once you it the button too :)

Thanks. You think they could bury it any deeper?

« Reply #211 on: April 29, 2014, 11:52 »
+2
I'm been pretty confused with the developments.

First sent message to Fotolia to remove my port from DPC.
Meanwhile found button under My Account - My Dashboard and de-listed myself.
Shortly after found that the DPC button had disappeared from My Dashboard.
Re-found the button under My Profile - Contributor Parameters.
It now reads "Don't Sell My Files on DPC".
THIS IS IT - I'm opted out..

OR am I ?

Went to DPC site - found one of my images there.  Clicked on it (as if to download) - but it doesn't seem to pull up for download.

Hopefully I'm opted out :)

Thanks much everyone who made all the clear posts on this site.

« Reply #212 on: April 29, 2014, 12:00 »
+4
Meanwhile have now received a message from Fotolia

(Quote)
Your account has already been set to Opt Out. Your images will be removed from DPC shortly.

Kind regards,
(Unquote)

So happy to see the trend that actually lets contributors decide on opt in/ outs.  Much prefer this approach to one where any agency forces its decision with no opt outs possible.  This may not resolve all the issues but is a clear step in the right direction.  :)

« Reply #213 on: April 29, 2014, 12:05 »
0
Did anyone who watched from the sidelines (meaning didn't delete images, didn't write to FT support and didn't know/didn't touch the opt-out button) received "You probably heard that we have launched Dollar Photo Club" message from FT?

« Reply #214 on: April 29, 2014, 12:08 »
+6
My wife didn't receive any e-mails regarding DPC from Fotolia and she didn't request opt out by e-mailing support.
So I guess only those who e-mailed support received them.

« Reply #215 on: April 29, 2014, 12:25 »
+5
My wife didn't receive any e-mails regarding DPC from Fotolia and she didn't request opt out by e-mailing support.
So I guess only those who e-mailed support received them.

The reality is they they in no way will publish an opt out option to 100% of their contributors. Just like they didn't publicize when they defaulted EL to 10 from 100.

« Reply #216 on: April 29, 2014, 12:27 »
+5
That's why we should spread the word. Twitter, Facebook, Google+, every contributor you know should be aware of this.

« Reply #217 on: April 29, 2014, 12:34 »
-5
I am a contributor with a vested interest in overall sales growth.  Here are my FT portfolios: 

http://us.fotolia.com/p/19000

http://us.fotolia.com/p/200920505


Are you employed by Fotolia?



Hi everyone,
 
Yes, after volunteering as a moderator in the Fotolia forum for many years I made the decision to leave the restaurant business I had been in for more than 25 years and turn my focus to my true passion of photography.  The timing was fortuitous as an opening came available on the Customer Service team at Fotolia that I happily accepted this past September. 
 
Working in this position has allowed me the opportunity to see firsthand the passion and commitment the team at Fotolia has towards increasing business and revenue for all involved including photographers.  Going into the job I have the unique perspective of looking at it from the view of a contributing photographer.
 
As much as I love to talk about myself (NOT!) I would like to reiterate a couple of solid points that some people in this forum are attempting to brush off as irrelevant.  The license at Dollar Photo Club has changed as a direct result of the urging of contributors.  The license at Dollar Photo Club has always been a Standard License but now it has been made more clear.  Customers cannot use the images in items that will be resold where the primary value comes from the image (tee shirts, coffee mugs, etc.) and there is now a limit of 500K on the run.   As it has been pointed out here, the only difference between buying an image at any stock agency  with a subscription plan and buying it at Dollar Photo Club is the fact that the customer can continue to use their purchased downloads even after cancelling their membership.
 
The fact that a customer can continue to use their available downloads without them expiring means that again, a higher percentage of overall spending goes to the contributor.  If a member of Fotolia or any stock agency buys a subscription and allows the subscription to expire before using their available downloads, those downloads expire and no commission is paid to the photographer. 
 
Dollar Photo Club is hitting a previously untapped market and is driving sales at  fast rate.  I recommend you think it through with logic rather than passion before deciding if you want to be a part of the growth or simply a witness to it.  As has been mentioned, you now have the option to opt out or opt back in manually in your account settings.  If you have any questions or concerns my email address is [email protected] and I will be happy to start a dialog with you one on one.

-Mat Hayward

« Reply #218 on: April 29, 2014, 12:43 »
+11
Mat thanks for chiming in. I appreciate that you are willing to discuss this with us.
Perhaps I can offer another suggestion.
How about a collection of on-demand images that draw a reasonable price and pay a reasonable commission?
For example if I were given the option of only selling my vectors via a collection that paid 50% off of a $20 sale you would probably start getting all of my images instead of none of them. My images sell well on demand and you would only need to sell about 8% as many of my images to make the same profit. This scenario gives you access to my best product (for a better product offering to your customers) and we both make more money. Why on earth wouldn't you be going after the best products and selling them for a reasonable rate? I just don't get it.

« Reply #219 on: April 29, 2014, 12:49 »
+20
Hello Mat,

i think there are some msitakes.

First of all there is no new market, Fotolia target an existing market.

The customer can download the images on demand and thats no sub, ok. But we get sub paid. And the different to daily subs is immense. The custome load images he dont need, so he loads many images, at the dpc he loads only what he needs,...for on dollar and one sub sale.

Thats a big difference.

We need a midstock! Not more cheaper and cheaper.

Sorry for bad english.

« Reply #220 on: April 29, 2014, 12:53 »
+15
I just got blocked from DPC's Facebook page for helping out a customer with his problems.  8)


Me


« Reply #221 on: April 29, 2014, 12:55 »
+17
I am a contributor with a vested interest in overall sales growth.  Here are my FT portfolios: 

http://us.fotolia.com/p/19000

http://us.fotolia.com/p/200920505


Are you employed by Fotolia?



Hi everyone,
 
Yes, after volunteering as a moderator in the Fotolia forum for many years I made the decision to leave the restaurant business I had been in for more than 25 years and turn my focus to my true passion of photography.  The timing was fortuitous as an opening came available on the Customer Service team at Fotolia that I happily accepted this past September. 
 
Working in this position has allowed me the opportunity to see firsthand the passion and commitment the team at Fotolia has towards increasing business and revenue for all involved including photographers.  Going into the job I have the unique perspective of looking at it from the view of a contributing photographer.
 
As much as I love to talk about myself (NOT!) I would like to reiterate a couple of solid points that some people in this forum are attempting to brush off as irrelevant.  The license at Dollar Photo Club has changed as a direct result of the urging of contributors.  The license at Dollar Photo Club has always been a Standard License but now it has been made more clear.  Customers cannot use the images in items that will be resold where the primary value comes from the image (tee shirts, coffee mugs, etc.) and there is now a limit of 500K on the run.   As it has been pointed out here, the only difference between buying an image at any stock agency  with a subscription plan and buying it at Dollar Photo Club is the fact that the customer can continue to use their purchased downloads even after cancelling their membership.
 
The fact that a customer can continue to use their available downloads without them expiring means that again, a higher percentage of overall spending goes to the contributor.  If a member of Fotolia or any stock agency buys a subscription and allows the subscription to expire before using their available downloads, those downloads expire and no commission is paid to the photographer. 
 
Dollar Photo Club is hitting a previously untapped market and is driving sales at  fast rate.  I recommend you think it through with logic rather than passion before deciding if you want to be a part of the growth or simply a witness to it.  As has been mentioned, you now have the option to opt out or opt back in manually in your account settings.  If you have any questions or concerns my email address is [email protected] and I will be happy to start a dialog with you one on one.

-Mat Hayward


So why are you emailing existing FT buyers and seemingly trying to convert credit buyers into sub buyers?

« Reply #222 on: April 29, 2014, 13:04 »
+15
I just got blocked from DPC's Facebook page for helping out a customer with his problems.  8)


I read some posts at their facebook site. It is hard to believe what fotolia say in the mail.

The advertisement on the facebooksite has only one message: 1$=1high res why you pay more?

Is this the exclusve sales for exclusive members what fotolia means???? Or is this an attack on the mass market?

« Reply #223 on: April 29, 2014, 13:10 »
+4
I am a contributor with a vested interest in overall sales growth.  Here are my FT portfolios: 

http://us.fotolia.com/p/19000

http://us.fotolia.com/p/200920505


Are you employed by Fotolia?



Hi everyone,
 
Yes, after volunteering as a moderator in the Fotolia forum for many years I made the decision to leave the restaurant business I had been in for more than 25 years and turn my focus to my true passion of photography.  The timing was fortuitous as an opening came available on the Customer Service team at Fotolia that I happily accepted this past September. 
 
Working in this position has allowed me the opportunity to see firsthand the passion and commitment the team at Fotolia has towards increasing business and revenue for all involved including photographers.  Going into the job I have the unique perspective of looking at it from the view of a contributing photographer.
 
As much as I love to talk about myself (NOT!) I would like to reiterate a couple of solid points that some people in this forum are attempting to brush off as irrelevant.  The license at Dollar Photo Club has changed as a direct result of the urging of contributors.  The license at Dollar Photo Club has always been a Standard License but now it has been made more clear.  Customers cannot use the images in items that will be resold where the primary value comes from the image (tee shirts, coffee mugs, etc.) and there is now a limit of 500K on the run.   As it has been pointed out here, the only difference between buying an image at any stock agency  with a subscription plan and buying it at Dollar Photo Club is the fact that the customer can continue to use their purchased downloads even after cancelling their membership.
 
The fact that a customer can continue to use their available downloads without them expiring means that again, a higher percentage of overall spending goes to the contributor.  If a member of Fotolia or any stock agency buys a subscription and allows the subscription to expire before using their available downloads, those downloads expire and no commission is paid to the photographer. 
 
Dollar Photo Club is hitting a previously untapped market and is driving sales at  fast rate.  I recommend you think it through with logic rather than passion before deciding if you want to be a part of the growth or simply a witness to it.  As has been mentioned, you now have the option to opt out or opt back in manually in your account settings.  If you have any questions or concerns my email address is [email protected] and I will be happy to start a dialog with you one on one.

-Mat Hayward


You really should have been much much more clear about this.

« Reply #224 on: April 29, 2014, 13:14 »
+9

We need a midstock! Not more cheaper and cheaper.

Sorry for bad english.

Sounds like good English to me;-)


 

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