Author Topic: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1 (Read 308966 times)

ferdinand · « **Reply #1000 on:** May 13, 2014, 23:27 »

My sales at ft are same as before opt out - very good ...

jorgophotography · « **Reply #1001 on:** May 14, 2014, 00:39 »

Quote from: MisterFX on May 13, 2014, 14:21

SHAME ON YOU, MICROSTOCK GROUP!!!! If you haven't noticed, you have lost a more than nine-year member in good standing from this forum. Thanks to the number of negative [-1] ratings on LisaFX's posts, her posts have been taken down.[/b] [/color]

I have a lot of respect for Lisa, i've been watching her posts for a long time and think she is one of the most honest and open personalities on this forum. I do occasionally vote down posts when in disagreement with the statements being made. This is not a personal attack, but more a difference on opinion.

I do believe that the DPC model is at odds with on-demands sales and refuse to participate in this drive to devalue microstock.
Although i wont force my view down other microstockers throats, i do hope some of the people who have kept their image active on DPC, take some time to think through the long term implications of this decision.

Whatever decision you make Lisa, we hope to see you back here soon.

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #1002 on:** May 14, 2014, 00:42 »

Beppe Grillo · « **Reply #1003 on:** May 14, 2014, 02:17 »

Quote from: leaf on May 13, 2014, 16:23

i think I should relabel the hard and down arrow with words 'agree' 'disagree'. People often take much too much offense when they get a 'down vote'. It really isn't a big deal if someone disagrees with you.

I think that you have to remove these stupid buttons…
Are we on Facebook here?
Should I begin to post selfish and photos of my cat too?

If I agree or disagree I don't need a "button" to say it, I can write it clearly in a post and give the arguments to support my thesis.

Painter · « **Reply #1004 on:** May 14, 2014, 02:50 »

Why not just remove this vote down option? Is that anything grown-up people should be doing, giving minuses to other people??? Even if it maybe only means "disagree" in most cases, you NEVER know how the person in question will take it. And because it is even more anonymous than posting things using anonymous usernames here, some people may actually use this feature to vote down people they do not like.

Give hearts when you like a post, and if you disagree, do nothing or make a reply explaining why, or maybe just a simple "disagree", written with letters. A minus is something very negative... Really bad and hateful posts should be reported and removed, but that is something different.

This is not a union, opting out of DPC is not a strike, people who decide to stay on DPC for whatever reasons are not strikebreakers.

I am very negative to DPC. But I do respect anyone who wants to stay with them, for whatever reason.

pixsol · « **Reply #1005 on:** May 14, 2014, 03:01 »

A humble request to let this thread stay on FT and DPC.

As for suggestions on up votes and down votes, please use this thread: http://www.microstockgroup.com/site-related/disappearing-posts/msg379375/?topicseen#new

Thanks !

ShadySue · « **Reply #1006 on:** May 14, 2014, 05:12 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on May 13, 2014, 10:47

It was also brought to my attention that DPC's tweets have now reduced the total number of images they're touting in their promotional posts 27 - 26 - 22 - 20 million images...

Indeed.
From their Fb page:
8th May:

Yesterday:

Whoops, their promise of '27 million images. $1. Always.' turns out to be false advertising.

kaboom · « **Reply #1007 on:** May 14, 2014, 05:29 »

They must have somehow forgotten in their calculations that those millions of images dont belong to them but to contributors.

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #1008 on:** May 14, 2014, 06:27 »

They would, no doubt, argue that ". Always" refers to the $ not to the number of images. The incorrect punctuation makes it impossible to know what is meant.

ShadySue · « **Reply #1009 on:** May 14, 2014, 07:44 »

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on May 14, 2014, 06:27

They would, no doubt, argue that ". Always" refers to the $ not to the number of images. The incorrect punctuation makes it impossible to know what is meant.

The ASA has previous cases which have ruled against precisely that sort of ambiguity.
Though it could all be down to the interpretation of that hypothetical 'reasonable person'.

robhainer · « **Reply #1010 on:** May 14, 2014, 12:42 »

Unless you all are going to offer to pay Lisa's bills, then you should just keep your criticisms to yourself.

CatTheCat · « **Reply #1011 on:** May 14, 2014, 12:50 »

Oleg Tscheltzoff's on Graphic Design USA Magazine

http://blog.gdusa.com/the-next-step-in-simple/#more

"The next step in simple, says stock industry veteran and serial entrepreneur Oleg Tscheltzoff, is the Dollar Photo Club. In an interview with GDUSA, it became clear that Tscheltzoff has thought long and hard about how to eliminate the last obstacles to easy image access. Honing in on the values of simplicity, predictability, and efficiency, he explains: ”Customers are tangled up in plans they don’t need, use, or even understand.

Pricing structures have become an unruly mess that needs to be scaled back and simplified for the benefit of customers — not for companies and shareholders … (do you see any reference to us here?

)

So we’ve created Dollar Photo Club, which gets right to the point, offering straightforward access to over 25 million professional images for $1 each, at one low monthly fee.

Dollar Photo Club customers pay only for what they use, nothing more, and always just $1.”
...
"The bottomline, he says, is that simplifying the price will be a significant time-saver, since it eliminates shopping for price on traditional sites, does not require signing up for large plans with lots of credits or downloads. "

They were supposed to represent OUR interests, to be a sort of agency. Shame on them.

dirkr · « **Reply #1012 on:** May 14, 2014, 13:25 »

Quote from: CatTheCat on May 14, 2014, 12:50

Oleg Tscheltzoff's on Graphic Design USA Magazine

http://blog.gdusa.com/the-next-step-in-simple/#more

"The next step in simple, says stock industry veteran and serial entrepreneur Oleg Tscheltzoff, is the Dollar Photo Club. In an interview with GDUSA, it became clear that Tscheltzoff has thought long and hard about how to eliminate the last obstacles to easy image access. Honing in on the values of simplicity, predictability, and efficiency, he explains: ”Customers are tangled up in plans they don’t need, use, or even understand.

Pricing structures have become an unruly mess that needs to be scaled back and simplified for the benefit of customers — not for companies and shareholders … (do you see any reference to us here? )

So we’ve created Dollar Photo Club, which gets right to the point, offering straightforward access to over 25 million professional images for $1 each, at one low monthly fee.

Dollar Photo Club customers pay only for what they use, nothing more, and always just $1.”
...
"The bottomline, he says, is that simplifying the price will be a significant time-saver, since it eliminates shopping for price on traditional sites, does not require signing up for large plans with lots of credits or downloads. "

They were supposed to represent OUR interests, to be a sort of agency. Shame on them.

Fully agree.

But obviously they still want to spin that thing to us.

Quote from: MatHayward on May 13, 2014, 16:51

...
The interest of contributors and the agencies is aligned and our only goal is to grow the market and to grow commissions as a whole.
...

What a joke!

dpimborough · « **Reply #1013 on:** May 14, 2014, 14:21 »

Quote from: robhainer on May 13, 2014, 17:10

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on May 13, 2014, 14:00
And here are screen shots (minus the missing megaphone tweet) of the images Dollar Photo Club used in their promotional tweets and which are now opted out and thus unavailable to buyers (click for full size)

My superhero photo. I didn't know they tweeted it. I could have gotten a boost before opting out.

To be honest, my sales at FT have gone in the crapper since opting out. I'm not sure it was the right decision.

That's weird because I opted out of DPC and deleted over 50% of my portfolio on FT and sales went up

stockmarketer · « **Reply #1014 on:** May 14, 2014, 15:12 »

Quote from: MisterFX on May 13, 2014, 14:21

SHAME ON YOU, MICROSTOCK GROUP!!!! If you haven't noticed, you have lost a more than nine-year member in good standing from this forum. Thanks to the number of negative [-1] ratings on LisaFX's posts, her posts have been taken down.[/b] [/color]

Lisa has always been my favorite member here. A class act, and a lot of wisdom to share based on her years of experience doing this.

I've pretty much remained silent for the past year or so, but this moves me enough to chime in and say if she's truly gone, I will miss her a great deal.

EmberMike · « **Reply #1015 on:** May 14, 2014, 15:16 »

Quote from: robhainer on May 13, 2014, 17:10

To be honest, my sales at FT have gone in the crapper since opting out. I'm not sure it was the right decision.

What's the connection? How could opting out of DPC impact sales at FT?

I don't see how that's possible.

Ron · « **Reply #1016 on:** May 14, 2014, 15:23 »

Quote from: EmberMike on May 14, 2014, 15:16

Quote from: robhainer on May 13, 2014, 17:10
To be honest, my sales at FT have gone in the crapper since opting out. I'm not sure it was the right decision.

What's the connection? How could opting out of DPC impact sales at FT?

I don't see how that's possible.

Isnt that exactly what you were afraid of? That DPC would take sales away from the agencies. It seems thats whats happening.

CatTheCat · « **Reply #1017 on:** May 14, 2014, 15:39 »

I just only like to remember to all the contributors that argued against this boycott, that diminished it in some sort, that Fotolia offered an opt out from DPC, and are increasing the laughable commissions thanks to those who fought.

That's all I have to say, back to work now.

robhainer · « **Reply #1018 on:** May 14, 2014, 15:57 »

Quote from: EmberMike on May 14, 2014, 15:16

Quote from: robhainer on May 13, 2014, 17:10
To be honest, my sales at FT have gone in the crapper since opting out. I'm not sure it was the right decision.

What's the connection? How could opting out of DPC impact sales at FT?

I don't see how that's possible.

Because I was getting sales from DPC before I opted out, probably? How does that not make sense? They've been doing DPC since January, and you can't tell if you're getting DPC sales or regular FT sales.

Ron · « **Reply #1019 on:** May 14, 2014, 15:59 »

Quote from: CatTheCat on May 14, 2014, 15:39

I just only like to remember to all the contributors that argued against this boycott, that diminished it in some sort, that Fotolia offered an opt out from DPC, and are increasing the laughable commissions thanks to those who fought.

That's all I have to say, back to work now.

I have seen 2 people that said they wouldnt opt out.

EmberMike · « **Reply #1020 on:** May 14, 2014, 18:54 »

Quote from: Ron on May 14, 2014, 15:23

Quote from: EmberMike on May 14, 2014, 15:16
What's the connection? How could opting out of DPC impact sales at FT?

I don't see how that's possible.
Isnt that exactly what you were afraid of? That DPC would take sales away from the agencies. It seems thats whats happening.

It can't be happening yet. It's too soon. Sure they launched in January, but they've only begun to heavily promote the site more recently. It takes time to see any significant shift in business from one place to another.

Even if it is happening to some degree, then why would only FT be showing the signs? Shouldn't we be seeing sales fall at Shutterstock, DT, etc?

Mantis · « **Reply #1021 on:** May 14, 2014, 19:10 »

Quote from: EmberMike on May 14, 2014, 18:54

Quote from: Ron on May 14, 2014, 15:23
Quote from: EmberMike on May 14, 2014, 15:16
What's the connection? How could opting out of DPC impact sales at FT?

I don't see how that's possible.
Isnt that exactly what you were afraid of? That DPC would take sales away from the agencies. It seems thats whats happening.

It can't be happening yet. It's too soon. Sure they launched in January, but they've only begun to heavily promote the site more recently. It takes time to see any significant shift in business from one place to another.

Even if it is happening to some degree, then why would only FT be showing the signs? Shouldn't we be seeing sales fall at Shutterstock, DT, etc?

I wonder if FT's brain trust is pushing their existing customer base into DPC? Offering all kinds of promises, perhaps. I do think they are trying to kill off FT or they wouldn't be cutting off their own wangs like they are doing with DPC pricing. That could explain why FT contributors are feeling a pinch there but nowhere else. I simply wouldn't put it past them.

LesPalenik · « **Reply #1022 on:** May 14, 2014, 22:02 »

Opted out. 565 old files still on FT.

Savo · « **Reply #1023 on:** May 15, 2014, 02:19 »

Quote from: fotorob on May 12, 2014, 06:09

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on May 12, 2014, 06:06
Is there some reasone warez people would want photos removed from DPC? I don't understand why anyone would support warez and be bothered about DPC. Perhaps someone can explain what all this means.

I can only guess but I assume they were afraid that the DPC would ruin their planned "giving images away at warez sites" business scheme.

So what exactly are you trying to say? Warez-People somehow manipulated our brains and make us believe, that DPC is a bad thing?

File Sold · « **Reply #1024 on:** May 15, 2014, 02:32 »

Didn't remember to mention, but opted out 600+ images (about 400 are vectors) from DPC week ago.

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Author Topic: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1 (Read 308966 times)

ferdinand

jorgophotography

BaldricksTrousers

Beppe Grillo

Painter

pixsol

ShadySue

kaboom

BaldricksTrousers

ShadySue

robhainer

CatTheCat

dirkr

dpimborough

stockmarketer

EmberMike

Ron

CatTheCat

robhainer

Ron

EmberMike

Mantis

LesPalenik

Savo

File Sold

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