Author Topic: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1 (Read 362171 times)

cobalt · « **Reply #1375 on:** May 30, 2014, 06:30 »

Talking to artists directly is very good. Banning them is bad.

I think if they offered opt in for individual files, they might get some more content.

But it looks like their plan was to offer high quality microstock content at prices that are just a fraction of what the overall market sets.

Why would we do that?

When they made up this plan, did they really think we don't care and just upload everything everywhere?

If I wanted to opt in I would have to treat Fotolia itself as the 1 dollar agency, because that is the portal for dpc. This would mean I could only send them lower quality content and I would have to remove what I believe should be set at higher prices from fotolia.

It makes no sense to work like that.

Anyway, don't they have enough images? DPC would probably still work if they just had 5 million files.

Monty-m-gue · « **Reply #1376 on:** May 30, 2014, 06:31 »

Quote from: cobalt on May 30, 2014, 06:30

Talking to artists directly is very good. Banning them is bad.

I think if they offered opt in for individual files, they might get some more content.

But it looks like their plan was to offer high quality microstock content at prices that are just a fraction of what the overall market sets.

Why would we do that?

When they made up this plan, did they really think we don't care and just upload everything everywhere?

Anyway, don't they have enough images? DPC would probably still work if they just had 5 million files.

depends which 5 million files they are left with...

Mantis · « **Reply #1377 on:** May 30, 2014, 08:00 »

Quote from: cobalt on May 30, 2014, 06:30

Talking to artists directly is very good. Banning them is bad.

I think if they offered opt in for individual files, they might get some more content.

But it looks like their plan was to offer high quality microstock content at prices that are just a fraction of what the overall market sets.

Why would we do that?

When they made up this plan, did they really think we don't care and just upload everything everywhere?

If I wanted to opt in I would have to treat Fotolia itself as the 1 dollar agency, because that is the portal for dpc. This would mean I could only send them lower quality content and I would have to remove what I believe should be set at higher prices from fotolia.

It makes no sense to work like that.

Anyway, don't they have enough images? DPC would probably still work if they just had 5 million files.

Exactly. The communication should have been much further upstream and at least it would be somewhat perceived as "a good faith effort" by FT. But after reading Bobby Deal's post and talking to him personally, FT is now on top over DP for me to close my account altogether. Oleg has in my opinion made it clear as gin that it's his personal goal to squeeze whatever juice he can get out of this industry and us contributors without one iota of concern as to how it affects the imagery industry as a whole in the longer term.

I want to say something here that maybe belongs in another thread but I think it's appropriate. My income overall has gone up in the last year, not because I produced more work. My mother's death and my role as trustee has consumed my time so I have not been shooting in nearly a year. But yet my income has gone up. I can thank Shutterstock for that. They have gone out and strategically created products (licenses, license packages) that have organically grown my revenue without me having to do a thing. THAT, my friends, is how a representative of my work, an agent, should behave. Will it last? Don't know but I am happy SS has done this. I got a nice $90 dl yesterday which kicked me over a grand for May. FT is taking the exact opposite approach, a destructive strategy for short term gain.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #1378 on:** May 30, 2014, 13:58 »

Happened to see that Fotolia was tweeting about a new blog post featuring Ruth Black's stunning work (and a recipe she shared).

http://blog.fotolia.com/en/2014/05/28/warning-delicious-images-ahead/

Seemed to me worth pointing out that you won't find Ruth's work on the Dollar Photo Club...

https://twitter.com/joannsnover/status/472451296822566912

Hoping the blog brings Ruth many Fotolia sales - she's such a talented photographer/baker.

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #1379 on:** May 31, 2014, 17:47 »

How are the stats going?

ArtesiaWells · « **Reply #1380 on:** May 31, 2014, 19:54 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on May 30, 2014, 13:58

Happened to see that Fotolia was tweeting about a new blog post featuring Ruth Black's stunning work (and a recipe she shared).

http://blog.fotolia.com/en/2014/05/28/warning-delicious-images-ahead/

Seemed to me worth pointing out that you won't find Ruth's work on the Dollar Photo Club...

https://twitter.com/joannsnover/status/472451296822566912

Hoping the blog brings Ruth many Fotolia sales - she's such a talented photographer/baker.

Beautiful images. Good she is not on DPC at least.
RuthBlack is also featured on Photodune this week.

http://photodune.net/item/vintage-cupcakes/1900941?WT.ac=featured_author&WT.z_author=RuthBlack

Rinderart · « **Reply #1381 on:** May 31, 2014, 23:56 »

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on May 31, 2014, 17:47

How are the stats going?

My question also.

Svetlana · « **Reply #1382 on:** June 01, 2014, 01:13 »

The stats for DPC (Moscow time):

Date and time Images on DPC Change
01-06-2014 08:08:59   21,756,707   6,542
01-06-2014 06:08:53   21,750,165   166
01-06-2014 05:08:58   21,749,999   708
01-06-2014 02:09:04   21,749,291   2,617
01-06-2014 01:08:57   21,746,674   462
01-06-2014 00:09:01   21,746,212   3,231
31-05-2014 21:08:59   21,742,981   7,808
31-05-2014 19:08:54   21,735,173   492
31-05-2014 18:08:57   21,734,681   1,516
31-05-2014 17:08:55   21,733,165   4,645
31-05-2014 15:08:59   21,728,520   322
31-05-2014 12:09:00   21,728,198   1,656
31-05-2014 10:08:59   21,726,542   1,245
31-05-2014 08:08:57   21,725,297   243
31-05-2014 05:08:59   21,725,054   -775
31-05-2014 02:09:02   21,725,829   11,372
30-05-2014 23:09:00   21,714,457   2,137
30-05-2014 20:08:59   21,712,320   198
30-05-2014 17:09:00   21,712,122   11,590
30-05-2014 09:08:56   21,700,532   -1,032
30-05-2014 08:08:56   21,701,564   -159
30-05-2014 06:09:01   21,701,723   3,857
30-05-2014 04:08:57   21,697,866   639
30-05-2014 03:08:56   21,697,227   279
30-05-2014 01:08:59   21,696,948   808
30-05-2014 00:08:59   21,696,140   869
29-05-2014 23:08:58   21,695,271   1,453
29-05-2014 21:08:56   21,693,818   1,538
29-05-2014 20:08:56   21,692,280   510

Latest numbers:
Fotolia: 28,601,269
DPC: 21,756,707
Difference: 6,844,562

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #1383 on:** June 01, 2014, 02:54 »

Still some significant portfolios being pulled out, judging from the three points where there were fairly big drops in the total. That's really quite extraordinary more than a month after people started fighting this.

Noedelhap · « **Reply #1384 on:** June 01, 2014, 06:20 »

Quote from: ArtesiaWells on May 22, 2014, 09:38

I thought I'd let you know what I decided - I am closing with Fotolia.
Looking forward to payday...

Dear Fotolia

I found the one and only image that I left in my account with you on this (Chinese) page
http://www.artgalore.ca/PhotosByArtist.php?ArtistID=202540410&ArtistName=artesiawells

Since I am engaged with other agencies with much of my portfolio I need to know where my copyrighted work is being published and for sale. This new find together with the insecurities of the past month, I consider it to be of the utmost urgency that I close my account with Fotolia.

I look forward to your confirmation and a payout of the equivalent of 3.3 credits as soon as possible.

Sincerely,
xxArtesiaWells

On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Fotolia.com <[email protected]> wrote:

Fotolia   View in your browser




"Hello,

We're sorry to see you have recently removed some files from your portfolio.
If you change your mind please remember that you can just send us a ticket and we'll put all your files back online. However, this must be done within the next 30 days.
Also, we would like to remind you that you can choose to opt in or opt out your images from DPC in your photographers' parameters.
We hope to see you back soon and will be doing all to grow your income.

Kind Regards,

The Fotolia Team"

Chinese page? It's Canadian.

Maximilian · « **Reply #1385 on:** June 01, 2014, 09:21 »

Desintegrator · « **Reply #1386 on:** June 01, 2014, 09:44 »

The stats suggest that some contributors have opted back in... which is sad.

Svetlana · « **Reply #1387 on:** June 01, 2014, 10:08 »

Quote from: Desintegrator on June 01, 2014, 09:44

The stats suggest that some contributors have opted back in... which is sad.

Not necessarily. Could be new images uploaded to Fotolia by contributors who didn't opt out.

Desintegrator · « **Reply #1388 on:** June 01, 2014, 10:15 »

But the growth of DPC's collection is bigger than in Fotolia's

donding · « **Reply #1389 on:** June 01, 2014, 10:45 »

I dropped Fotolia a long time ago because of their unethical practices, but I've been reading this topic for a couple of days now. I want to say I admire Ron and Anyka for standing up for what is right. They paid the price for it and continue their push. Sean paid the price for standing up against iStock. It sad that these agencies don't listen to their contributors and I'll say it again, I do admire you for your stand. Keep pushing forward.

Photobomb · « **Reply #1390 on:** June 03, 2014, 21:08 »

Any updates, I don't think we should let this fall off the front page.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #1391 on:** June 03, 2014, 21:24 »

Quote from: PhotoBomb on June 03, 2014, 21:08

Any updates, I don't think we should let this fall off the front page.

the newest update from my FT account: 1 download this month

jarih · « **Reply #1392 on:** June 03, 2014, 23:16 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on June 03, 2014, 21:24

the newest update from my FT account: 1 download this month

Same here!

Svetlana · « **Reply #1393 on:** June 04, 2014, 01:29 »

Latest stats:
Fotolia: 28,715,484 images
DPC: 21,826,093 images
Difference: 6,889,391 images

emblem · « **Reply #1394 on:** June 04, 2014, 01:48 »

Quote from: jarih on June 03, 2014, 23:16

Quote from: luissantos84 on June 03, 2014, 21:24
the newest update from my FT account: 1 download this month
Same here!

Same here as well.....if I didn't know better you'd think we were being punished in search for opting out of DPC.

pkphotos · « **Reply #1395 on:** June 04, 2014, 02:30 »

SUCCESS! Let's keep up this effort. A few hours ago I did a quick search on DFC, found the number one ranked photo for a particular subject, did a google search, found and emailed the photographer via their website. I received a rapid response from them having alerted them to this thread, and they promptly opted out their 1500+ high quality photos. That took me minimal effort. If we all had two or three successes using this method we'd make a big impact on DPC

Desintegrator · « **Reply #1396 on:** June 04, 2014, 06:17 »

Just a note: i don't feel beining punished for opting out (opted out on may 1, even deleted files from Fotolia), sale are going fine, getting nice credit sale to. Such a pity Fotolia don't concentrate the effort on those instead o this DPC madness.

It's getting harder and harder to contact more contriburos about this, but we have to keep up. Everyone deserves to know that they are using our content against our interests.

dpimborough · « **Reply #1397 on:** June 04, 2014, 06:22 »

Quote from: pkphotos on June 04, 2014, 02:30

SUCCESS! Let's keep up this effort. A few hours ago I did a quick search on DFC, found the number one ranked photo for a particular subject, did a google search, found and emailed the photographer via their website. I received a rapid response from them having alerted them to this thread, and they promptly opted out their 1500+ high quality photos. That took me minimal effort. If we all had two or three successes using this method we'd make a big impact on DPC

Keep up the good work

pkphotos · « **Reply #1398 on:** June 04, 2014, 06:28 »

Quote from: Teddy the Cat on June 04, 2014, 06:22

Quote from: pkphotos on June 04, 2014, 02:30
SUCCESS! Let's keep up this effort. A few hours ago I did a quick search on DFC, found the number one ranked photo for a particular subject, did a google search, found and emailed the photographer via their website. I received a rapid response from them having alerted them to this thread, and they promptly opted out their 1500+ high quality photos. That took me minimal effort. If we all had two or three successes using this method we'd make a big impact on DPC

Keep up the good work

It requires a united effort from united photographers. 5 minutes less time browsing this forum spent emailing one photographer with photos on DPC is effort well spent

ferdinand · « **Reply #1399 on:** June 04, 2014, 08:21 »

Quote from: Desintegrator on June 04, 2014, 06:17

Just a note: i don't feel beining punished for opting out (opted out on may 1, even deleted files from Fotolia), sale are going fine, getting nice credit sale to. Such a pity Fotolia don't concentrate the effort on those instead o this DPC madness.

same here

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Author Topic: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1 (Read 362171 times)

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Rinderart

Svetlana

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Noedelhap

Maximilian

Desintegrator

Svetlana

Desintegrator

donding

Photobomb

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jarih

Svetlana

emblem

pkphotos

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