Author Topic: Fotolia D-Day (Deactivation Day) - May,1 (Read 309307 times)

ethan · « **Reply #1525 on:** June 16, 2014, 10:05 »

Quote from: Shelma1 on June 16, 2014, 09:52

Quote from: CatTheCat on June 16, 2014, 08:21
1 hour ago, I was on the tablet, and I saw an advertisement on a link on Facebook for DPC for a free trial for the 10 images.

I am a little bit worried about the massive advertisement DPC is making. I really wish Shutterstock would make something about it.

Oh and I don't know if it's the problem of the last months, (I only joined shutterstock in july 2013 and can't see any pattern), but I am definitely seeing a decrease of ODD comparing with the number of subs.

Contributors who didn't opt out aren't reporting an increase in sales, and now they're trying to get people in by offering them free files. Sounds a bit desperate to me, actually. Like their usual offer isn't working.

If you see an ad, click on it. They pay for every click. Wouldn't it be nice if they spent most of their advertising budget reaching us.

You might have stumbled on something there Shelma

If they are on a 'pay per click' advertising program by everyone clicking on the links we can 'help' them spend all their budget pretty quick

Depending on the deals they have it could be anything from $1.00 - $5.00 every time an advertising link it clicked !

That's going to hurt

Many years back in the UK we had a big political issue with fox hunting, people for it and people against it. There was an organisation lobbying for the anti-fox hunting vote. the farmers wanted to keep hunting as they wanted the numbers of foxes controlled, they often were members of the local hunt and also made money from having a vibrant hunting group, stabling, kennelling hounds, land rights etc etc.

It turned out the anti hunt group had a 'free-post' address for their supporters to send donations to, to help 'fight the fight' and so on.

The farmers and other pro-hunters found out about it and literally posted dozens of boxes full of bricks to the free-post address using the free-post number.

The anti-hunting group went bankrupt. They eventually owed thousands of pounds to the post office

Different tactic but the same idea

Lets all click the DPC advert links

Mantis · « **Reply #1526 on:** June 16, 2014, 10:37 »

Send me that link please. I have a lot of prospective fingers, I mean, customers who want to learn more.

marthamarks · « **Reply #1527 on:** June 16, 2014, 11:45 »

Quote from: Mantis on June 16, 2014, 10:37

Send me that link please. I have a lot of prospective fingers, I mean, customers who want to learn more.

Me too. I'll round up lots of "customers" to click those links!

ethan · « **Reply #1528 on:** June 16, 2014, 12:17 »

Quote from: CatTheCat on June 16, 2014, 08:21

1 hour ago, I was on the tablet, and I saw an advertisement on a link on Facebook for DPC for a free trial for the 10 images.

I am a little bit worried about the massive advertisement DPC is making. I really wish Shutterstock would make something about it.

Oh and I don't know if it's the problem of the last months, (I only joined shutterstock in july 2013 and can't see any pattern), but I am definitely seeing a decrease of ODD comparing with the number of subs.

CatTheCat stated he saw the link on Facebook so maybe we should all head there and start clicking

marthamarks · « **Reply #1529 on:** June 16, 2014, 13:18 »

Quote from: ethan on June 16, 2014, 12:17

CatTheCat stated he saw the link on Facebook so maybe we should all head there and start clicking

I was just on FB and didn't find that link. Probably not everybody gets it.

'Twould still help to have a direct link to share with other potential "customers."

Mantis · « **Reply #1530 on:** June 16, 2014, 13:26 »

Quote from: marthamarks on June 16, 2014, 13:18

Quote from: ethan on June 16, 2014, 12:17
CatTheCat stated he saw the link on Facebook so maybe we should all head there and start clicking

I was just on FB and didn't find that link. Probably not everybody gets it.

'Twould still help to have a direct link to share with other potential "customers."

Yes, please. I have lots of buyers.

Shelma1 · « **Reply #1531 on:** June 16, 2014, 13:29 »

Try googling dollar photos. Or stock photos for a dollar or whatever. If DPC appears at the top of the results with a little yellow box that says "ad," they're paying for every click. Results lower than that without the box are organic results, so don't click there unless you want to help their Google ranking.

ethan · « **Reply #1532 on:** June 16, 2014, 13:37 »

Quote from: Shelma1 on June 16, 2014, 13:29

Try googling dollar photos. Or stock photos for a dollar or whatever. If DPC appears at the top of the results with a little yellow box that says "ad," they're paying for every click. Results lower than that without the box are organic results, so don't click there unless you want to help their Google ranking.

Shelma1 is Right

I just google'd dollar photos and got this (attachment)

The AD is at the top. That's the Pay Per Click - which means when it's clicked THEY PAY.

Start Clicking People

EDIT: Just done twenty click throughs - so that's cost scabby FT between 20-50 Dollars.

I know what my plans are for this evening

TIP: Type Dollar Photo Club into google, copy it and then just paste it in each time after you click through, it's faster.

Remember each click through is wiping out their budget

Desintegrator · « **Reply #1533 on:** June 16, 2014, 13:58 »

I never see these yellow boxes with "ad"
probably ads aren't targeted to every country?

oh... i just had to turn off the adblock...

ethan · « **Reply #1534 on:** June 16, 2014, 14:02 »

Quote from: Desintegrator on June 16, 2014, 13:58

I never see these yellow boxes with "ad"
probably ads aren't targeted to every country?

The yellow box is a new feature (I am in the UK) it used to be the links that were in bold blue (at the very top) of your google search results page were the sponsored links (aka: Pay Per Click) and the links below (non-bold) were the normal search results. What is happening now is they add the yellow box with AD.

If you don't have that where you are do you have a few (top) links in bold font. If you do they are the sponsored links or pay per click links.

Click Them

EDIT: I posted my response before I saw your edit

Gel-O Shooter · « **Reply #1535 on:** June 16, 2014, 14:23 »

I'm not familiar with Google ad schemes. Is it pay-per-click or pay-per-unique visitor? If it's the former, then I can spend an hour a day "helping" them with their advertising.

Fairplay · « **Reply #1536 on:** June 16, 2014, 14:31 »

If you click on ad more than once, there is possibility the clicks to be ignored as fake!

cuppacoffee · « **Reply #1537 on:** June 16, 2014, 14:32 »

There is such a thing as click-fraud but it is hard to identify.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Click_fraud

dpimborough · « **Reply #1538 on:** June 16, 2014, 14:38 »

Quote from: Shelma1 on June 16, 2014, 13:29

Try googling dollar photos. Or stock photos for a dollar or whatever. If DPC appears at the top of the results with a little yellow box that says "ad," they're paying for every click. Results lower than that without the box are organic results, so don't click there unless you want to help their Google ranking.

well I had nothing else to do and there's only football on the TV

ethan · « **Reply #1539 on:** June 16, 2014, 14:38 »

Quote from: Gel-O Shooter on June 16, 2014, 14:23

I'm not familiar with Google ad schemes. Is it pay-per-click or pay-per-unique visitor? If it's the former, then I can spend an hour a day "helping" them with their advertising.

Good point. Answer is I don't know how we find out. It all depends on how it's been set up.

In the past I have known employees who sit at their desks during their lunch breaks who are encouraged to 'while away' ten minutes of their break just clicking repeatedly on one or more of their market competitors Pay Per Click links (if they have them).

It actually does cost the competitor money. Real money.

Normally a company will have a budget (set for each day or each week). That budget depends on how big the market is as how big you are. Also, what the search term is.

DOLLAR PHOTO is probably a very high ticket. It returns 359,000,000, yep that's three hundred and fifty nine MILLION returns.

To be in position one on page one for that return is not going to be cheap. If it's per click or per 'unique visitor' it's not going to be any cheaper.

If it's for unique visitors they may be an added cost as they have to log each IP address and also determine how long the intervals are, one click per day, week or ever? etc

Whatever it is the greater the number of clicks that we can all do the more the cost will be for FT.

EmberMike · « **Reply #1540 on:** June 16, 2014, 14:43 »

Quote from: CatTheCat on June 16, 2014, 08:42

like image exclusivity,
and massive advertising on Facebook (DPC has 73 000 likes, Shutterstock has 195 000 - isn't worrying?)

I don't know, I am not paid to think about it... They must know better than me what could be done to refrain them...

I'm not sure why anyone would expect a response already. DPC is pretty new still. They showed up when, in January I think? That's not nearly enough time in this business to know if something is a threat, trend, etc.

And Shutterstock, being rather masterful at collecting data about customers and acting on it when appropriate/necessary, almost certainly have some means of knowing whether DPC is (or becomes) a legitimate threat to them and if they need to do anything about it.

ethan · « **Reply #1541 on:** June 16, 2014, 14:44 »

Quote from: cuppacoffee on June 16, 2014, 14:32

There is such a thing as click-fraud but it is hard to identify.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Click_fraud

If I'm going down I'm taking you all with me

leaf · « **Reply #1542 on:** June 16, 2014, 15:55 »

Even if we aren't a fan of DPC, is it really beneficial to try and force our Agency selling our photos to spend unnecessary cash?? It seems a bit backwards and that we are forgetting that they are indeed our agency.

... ducks for cover...

Mantis · « **Reply #1543 on:** June 16, 2014, 16:03 »

Quote from: leaf on June 16, 2014, 15:55

Even if we aren't a fan of DPC, is it really beneficial to try and force our Agency selling our photos to spend unnecessary cash?? It seems a bit backwards and that we are forgetting that they are indeed our agency.

... ducks for cover...

They are not MY Agency any longer....just saying.

Shelma1 · « **Reply #1544 on:** June 16, 2014, 16:04 »

They're not my agency.

Monty-m-gue · « **Reply #1545 on:** June 16, 2014, 16:09 »

Quote from: leaf on June 16, 2014, 15:55

Even if we aren't a fan of DPC, is it really beneficial to try and force our Agency selling our photos to spend unnecessary cash?? It seems a bit backwards and that we are forgetting that they are indeed our agency.

... ducks for cover...

With DPC, Fotolia have effectively declared war on my business. They are not 'my agency' - they are my enemy.

Shelma1 · « **Reply #1546 on:** June 16, 2014, 16:19 »

I'd just like to point out that we're not forcing them to spend anything. They undoubtedly have a set ad budget...we're just redirecting some of it to a different target audience. Us.

Wouldn't it be better for them to spend that budget promoting Fotolia, where you earn more? (Fotolia isn't my agency any more either.) Look at this as a way to encourage them to do that.

marthamarks · « **Reply #1547 on:** June 16, 2014, 17:52 »

Fotolia is not my agency either.

And many people I know who are potential customers of DPC are happily clicking the link tonight.

ethan · « **Reply #1548 on:** June 17, 2014, 01:12 »

Fotolia is not my agency either.

And do their recent actions working against the interest of their contributors give them any right for us to play fair with them?

I don't think so

onepointfour · « **Reply #1549 on:** June 17, 2014, 02:16 »

This is fun but wait, here's what I found. Perhaps we shouldn't click on it repetitively?

"While both Google AdWords and Microsoft adCenter claim to refund charges for “suspicious” clicks, we have seen instances where consistent clicking by competitors has required manual requests for refunds."

http://www.market-vantage.com/2011/01/how-to-stop-competitors-from-clicking-your-ppc-ads/

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