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« on: August 21, 2015, 03:25 »
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Hi Guys,

So I've been doing Microstock for a month or so now, and my only sales came from Fotolia, I have started doing quite well on it, so about a month ago I shut down my other stock accounts and deleted my photos from them and have gone exclusive with Fotolia, however that's not being reflected in the profits from my images, I'm still only getting 0.25p per image, anyone have any ideas?

Also what sort of prices should I be setting my extended licenses at? Currently I just leave them at 1 - 30.

Thanks any comments :)

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« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2015, 03:48 »
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I put the extended's always on max.

« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2015, 04:26 »
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I don't get how you can be doing this for a month and closed your other accounts a month ago?  Some sites take months to start selling, I see no point being exclusive with fotolia when they can change the search and your sales will fall off a cliff, that's happened to many of us.

« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2015, 04:28 »
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Dude, you need a little bit more then 21 files, to expect sales on other sites too.

« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2015, 14:45 »
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So I've been doing Microstock for a month or so now ... so about a month ago I shut down my other stock accounts and deleted my photos from them and have gone exclusive with Fotolia

Sounds like you uploaded to FT, got a few sales, and immediately shut down your other routes to future sales.

I hope you realize how short-sighted that is!

« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2015, 15:02 »
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Adobe has probably killed exclusivity for Fotolia.  They charge the same prices and give the same royalty rates for exclusive and nonexclusive content at Adobe.  It's likely that they'll push to move customers from Fotolia to Adobe as well.

« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2015, 07:23 »
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formerly, there had been some exclusive pics on my fotolia portfolio but my earnings decreased instead increase so I did all the non-exclusive.

Noedelhap

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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2015, 16:53 »
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Not really smart, to put it bluntly. You need to wait at least 6 months to a year to make any significant analysis of your sales before deciding to go exclusive. Fotolia doesn't seem like the best agency to go exclusive anyway. Especially with a small port you're better off staying independent.

Also, leaving your extended prices at 30?? Then you'll be earning only $10.50 for an extended sale! Set it to 100 credits instead. You won't be receiving lots of extended sales anyway, but at least you won't not selling it too cheap.

« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2015, 08:11 »
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Adobe has probably killed exclusivity for Fotolia.  They charge the same prices and give the same royalty rates for exclusive and nonexclusive content at Adobe.  It's likely that they'll push to move customers from Fotolia to Adobe as well.

I agree.  I think as their new venture in stock matures we will see a few new behaviors that could bull whip through the other agencies. For example, "if" Adobe provides generic extended license terms for a normal $3 download, others will follow and our hopes of seeing a $28 el commission are gone. The more I read about the Adobe model the more I am worried about its longer term (1-2 years) impact on the overall business of micro stock.

MxR

« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2015, 08:25 »
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All images of adobe and all subs are same % for exclusive and non exclusives. Only credits sales is more profitable for exclusives. No advantages in search engine, no fotolia-infinite collection access.

Is stupid a fotolia exclusivity if you have time to upload to Shutter


« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2015, 08:35 »
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Adobe has probably killed exclusivity for Fotolia.  They charge the same prices and give the same royalty rates for exclusive and nonexclusive content at Adobe.  It's likely that they'll push to move customers from Fotolia to Adobe as well.

I agree.  I think as their new venture in stock matures we will see a few new behaviors that could bull whip through the other agencies. For example, "if" Adobe provides generic extended license terms for a normal $3 download, others will follow and our hopes of seeing a $28 el commission are gone. The more I read about the Adobe model the more I am worried about its longer term (1-2 years) impact on the overall business of micro stock.
I think you probably won't have to wait 1 or 2 years to see how this affects other sites, I think it will probably happen in months.

« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2015, 12:48 »
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Looks like Shutterstock dropped single image pricing from $29 for two images to $9.99 for one.  Anyone know if royalties are lowered too?  In the old earnings schedule single OD sales were a different category than other OD sales, do they now fall under On Demand or Custom sales? 

ETA:  I guess they would be lowered either way.  They used to get up to $4.35 per sale (30 percent of $14.50) now I guess you get $2.85 for those sales which also means your royalty rate was lowered from 30% to 28.5%.
« Last Edit: August 25, 2015, 12:52 by tickstock »

« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2015, 13:01 »
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Royalties haven't changed according to their earnings page (http://submit.shutterstock.com/payouts).

« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2015, 13:08 »
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They actually did change.  Single On Demand sales used to be paid at a percentage, up to 30%.  30% of $9.99 would have been about $3 now it's $2.85.  By switching them from the Custom Image category to the On Demand category they lowered royalty rates.

This is from last month:  https://web.archive.org/web/20150728180651/https://submit.shutterstock.com/earnings_schedule.mhtml


 

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